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HDTV1080P · 12-09-2009, 06:23 AM

Panasonic 48HZ G15 series and Panasonic 96HZ TC-P54Z1 have been added to the list

(4 more Panasonic plasma's added to the list)

I was waiting for months for a professional review to be released before adding the G15 series and TC-P54Z1 to the list, but no review has been published yet mentioning the 24P feature. Sometimes it takes around 6 months or more for a professional review to be written for some models. There are so many models of displays on the market that some models are never reviewed. According to page 35 of the G15 series instruction manual the display has a 48HZ and 60HZ mode. Panasonic plasma screens have a brighter screen when compared to a 48HZ Front Projector, most likely the G15 series will produce a visible flicker just like the G10 series does when placed in the 48HZ mode during BLU-RAY watching.

Quote from page 35 of G15 series instruction manual:

" 48Hz: Achieves more cinematic playback by reproducing the movie contents at twice the speed of 24 frames per second. (60Hz/48Hz)"

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP42G15.PDF

Panasonic TC-P54Z1 is similar to the V10 series but with added feature

The Panasonic TC-P54Z1 is a ultra thin 96HZ plasma screen with a list price of $5,499.95. Picture quality features like 96HZ are exactly the same as the V10 series. The picture quality in terms of contrast ratio between the V10 and Z1 are exactly the same according to the specs (40,000:1 contrast ratio). The main advantage of the 54 inch Z1 is its ultra thin at 1 inches thick. It requires the use of a external wireless HD media box in order to achieve the thin size (media box included with display). Personally I do not like wireless media boxes since sometimes RF interference can occur to mess with the picture quality. In most cases wireless media boxes will provide the same quality as a HDMI cable. Some consumers like external wireless media boxes for easy flat panel wall mounting installs. No need to run HDMI cables in the walls or down the wall. The sound quality of the internal speakers are also better on the TC-P54Z1 compared to the V10 series. In theory since the contrast ratio is the same between the V10 and the TC-P54Z1 the picture quality might also be exactly the same. I have seen both the V10 and TC-P54Z1 on display but I did not have the opportunity to see both of them side by side. The V10 series is a better value display that uses standard reliable HDMI cables instead of a media box. Hopefully a review will be published in the future on the Z1 that will provide more details. Just like the V10 series the TC-P54Z1 uses the same method to handle 1080P/24. The choices are 60HZ with 3:2 pulldown judder added, 48HZ that may cause visible flicker, and 96HZ which is 100% flicker free. I am still surprised Panasonic still offers the 48HZ and 60HZ option for 1080p/24 instead of just outputing all 1080p/24 source material at 96HZ only. All the discountined Pioneer 1080P's would automatically always use 72HZ for 1080p/24 regardless of menu settings.

According to page 41 of the instruction manual on the Panasonic TC-P54Z1 it mentions that the 48HZ setting may cause a visible flicker to be seen. 96HZ will provide 100% flicker free picture with true film quality 4:4 pulldown.

Quote from page 41 of the TC-P54Z1 instruction manual:

" 96Hz/48Hz: Achieves more cinematic playback by reproducing the movie contents at 2 or 4 times the
speed of 24 frames per second. (96Hz/60Hz/48Hz) • If flicker is seen using 48Hz, please use 60Hz or 96Hz."

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP54Z1.PDF

Added to the list
Panasonic TC-P42G15 (48HZ)
Panasonic TC-P46G15 (48HZ)
Panasonic TC-P50G15 (48HZ)
Panasonic TC-P54Z1 (96HZ)

12-09-2009, 06:23 AM	#850 (permalink)
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Panasonic 48HZ G15 series and Panasonic 96HZ TC-P54Z1 have been added to the list (4 more Panasonic plasma's added to the list) I was waiting for months for a professional review to be released before adding the G15 series and TC-P54Z1 to the list, but no review has been published yet mentioning the 24P feature. Sometimes it takes around 6 months or more for a professional review to be written for some models. There are so many models of displays on the market that some models are never reviewed. According to page 35 of the G15 series instruction manual the display has a 48HZ and 60HZ mode. Panasonic plasma screens have a brighter screen when compared to a 48HZ Front Projector, most likely the G15 series will produce a visible flicker just like the G10 series does when placed in the 48HZ mode during BLU-RAY watching. Quote from page 35 of G15 series instruction manual: " 48Hz: Achieves more cinematic playback by reproducing the movie contents at twice the speed of 24 frames per second. (60Hz/48Hz)" http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP42G15.PDF Panasonic TC-P54Z1 is similar to the V10 series but with added feature The Panasonic TC-P54Z1 is a ultra thin 96HZ plasma screen with a list price of $5,499.95. Picture quality features like 96HZ are exactly the same as the V10 series. The picture quality in terms of contrast ratio between the V10 and Z1 are exactly the same according to the specs (40,000:1 contrast ratio). The main advantage of the 54 inch Z1 is its ultra thin at 1 inches thick. It requires the use of a external wireless HD media box in order to achieve the thin size (media box included with display). Personally I do not like wireless media boxes since sometimes RF interference can occur to mess with the picture quality. In most cases wireless media boxes will provide the same quality as a HDMI cable. Some consumers like external wireless media boxes for easy flat panel wall mounting installs. No need to run HDMI cables in the walls or down the wall. The sound quality of the internal speakers are also better on the TC-P54Z1 compared to the V10 series. In theory since the contrast ratio is the same between the V10 and the TC-P54Z1 the picture quality might also be exactly the same. I have seen both the V10 and TC-P54Z1 on display but I did not have the opportunity to see both of them side by side. The V10 series is a better value display that uses standard reliable HDMI cables instead of a media box. Hopefully a review will be published in the future on the Z1 that will provide more details. Just like the V10 series the TC-P54Z1 uses the same method to handle 1080P/24. The choices are 60HZ with 3:2 pulldown judder added, 48HZ that may cause visible flicker, and 96HZ which is 100% flicker free. I am still surprised Panasonic still offers the 48HZ and 60HZ option for 1080p/24 instead of just outputing all 1080p/24 source material at 96HZ only. All the discountined Pioneer 1080P's would automatically always use 72HZ for 1080p/24 regardless of menu settings. According to page 41 of the instruction manual on the Panasonic TC-P54Z1 it mentions that the 48HZ setting may cause a visible flicker to be seen. 96HZ will provide 100% flicker free picture with true film quality 4:4 pulldown. Quote from page 41 of the TC-P54Z1 instruction manual: " 96Hz/48Hz: Achieves more cinematic playback by reproducing the movie contents at 2 or 4 times the speed of 24 frames per second. (96Hz/60Hz/48Hz) • If flicker is seen using 48Hz, please use 60Hz or 96Hz." http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP54Z1.PDF Added to the list Panasonic TC-P42G15 (48HZ) Panasonic TC-P46G15 (48HZ) Panasonic TC-P50G15 (48HZ) Panasonic TC-P54Z1 (96HZ) Last edited by HDTV1080P; 12-09-2009 at 06:50 AM.