Gladiator Blu-ray Discussion Thread

Gremal · 09-03-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robertc88

Since release day on Tuesday, I haven't even put in Braveheart once. I do like Gladiator more than Braveheart and the quality is more than acceptable and better than I have experienced for both sound and picture with the SD DVD DTS ES copy but obviously the PQ is not as good as Braveheart.

All told, guess it really is about the movie being the priority and not PQ and AQ and I can see why lots of folks are liking it especially since the experience is even more rewarding!

I have no desire to see Braveheart again even if I live to the next millenium. Gladiator will get lots of play at the gremal residence.

robertc88 · 09-03-2009, 10:56 PM

I sure hope some folks are at least giving this a chance with a rental than just flat out not buying it and not watching it at all.

persuazion · 09-03-2009, 10:56 PM

Who cant wait for Creepshow next week!!!!??

Nightfury82 · 09-03-2009, 10:58 PM

3.0 video review. Ouch. I'll still buy it. I'm sure Paramount knew people would buy it.

Blu Nick · 09-03-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfury82

3.0 video review. Ouch. I'll still buy it. I'm sure Paramount knew people would buy it.

Check out this scathing review of Gladiator

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id....html#comments

persuazion · 09-03-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Nick

Check out this scathing review of Gladiator

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id....html#comments

never heard of Dvdtimes......but I have heard of Dvdbeaver.......and they loved it!

Jimbo976 · 09-03-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Nick

Check out this scathing review of Gladiator

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id....html#comments

Oh that's the one by the guy named Whiggles from AV Science Forum (AVS).

tilapiah6 · 09-03-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo976

Or the ones it is most compared to for it's problems....

Patton, the Star Trek Movies, and Dark City.

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Originally Posted by ed4246

What were the reported problems with this one?

+1

I thought it was superb.

Jimbo976 · 09-03-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

+1

I thought it was superb.

From AVS Dark City "screenshot" thread...

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So what's next? Two classic war movies, a recent Oscar Best picture nominee and modern Sci-fi classic. All neutered from what should have been a major upgrade worthy of the phrase " . . . the Ultimate High Definition Experience" (sic). Well most high definition titles are worthy. But excessive manipulation of the picture to cater and satisfy them make this all worthless. Why for the love of Allah you ******* ** ***** hide the details that's otherwise present in the movie on a 1080p format? WHY?!?

Its true that a majority of HD release are a substantial upgrade over the SD DVD but that is not an excuse if you make it look the movie is inhabited by wax mannequins with halos or "force fields" all throughout. Just like the CGI animation I see from the video game I play. Clean and smooth.

I don't think I need to tell how disappointed I am when reports start trickling in about the excessive DNR used. Ok, fine maybe its not too bad. Then screenshots from DVDbeaver went online and right away I see the movie is "Pattonized". For two weeks people asserted that the "screenshots can't be trusted" or "screenshots doesn't not represent the PQ of the movie" or "No waiii dat pixie is photochopped to make it look worse!". Well to those people watching this movie right now (assuming your viewing set is calibrated ) what do you see? Does it match? or your TV has some magical powers to add fine detail to all HD releases. You did not have your sharpness setting set to 10 did you?

Ok back to this piece of . . . err I mean Blu-ray disc. There are two versions , The Director's Cut and the Theatrical Cut. And YES there is a difference in overall PQ. But I will deal with that later in the thread There is no seamless branching. The disc is structured just like the Golden Compass and I Am Legend. As far as the DTS-HD MA sound, its excellent. Outstanding. As usual.

I am not alone with what some called a "crusade" against DNR and EE. Let me correct you with that, WE have a "crusade" against Excessive DNR and EE. Even after all the arguments against these manipulations on films there are still some that just don't understand what is the big deal. It is better than DVD so what is the frakking problem? Let me show you:

Elvis · 09-03-2009, 11:40 PM

I hate DNR Snobs......sigh.

Penton-Man · 09-03-2009, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo976

Oh that's the one by the guy named Whiggles from AV Science Forum (AVS).

Hey, I’ve heard of “Whiggles” ………as somebody today just linked me to a recent post of his……….
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1536

I guess he wasn’t present at the demo (scroll down) showing the side-by-side comparison of an archival quality D5 master (and state of the art for 2006) with the Blu-ray of Black Hawk Down.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/blu-r...on-eklund.html

Ridley loved the high-def home edition though.

Penton-Man · 09-03-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbo976

Ask those guys over at AVS what they think about it?

I think my all time fave is when comparing the 2 encodes of Flags of Our Fathers, the *scientists* found a single compression artifact via screenshot *analysis* in one frame and the mob went wild…..ready to lynch the compressionist that did the work.

And when you watched the scene in real-time, there was no way you could spot that compression artifact as that area could hardly be considered to be a point of interest in following the action of the movie.

Blu-ray Fanatic · 09-03-2009, 11:54 PM

I was watching Gladiator last night while drinking beer and IMO the pq isn't that bad. I'd say it looks more like HD DVD quality or an upconverted dvd. I won't be buying it though because a remastered version will be out soon.

Penton-Man · 09-04-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

.....In fact, New Line Studio started doing 4K (or maybe even 8K) archival transfers of all their new movies way back in the 90's.

I'm sorry, but this statement is so ridiculous it is beyond the bounds of stupidity and lack of knowledge on the subject.

In fact, I think it may be the most ignorant thing I have read on this forum all year.

DetroitSportsFan · 09-04-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

I was watching Gladiator last night while drinking beer and IMO the pq isn't that bad.

How much beer did you drink?

DetroitSportsFan · 09-04-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In fact, I think it may be the most ignorant thing I have read on this forum all year.

That's impossible.

Jimbo976 · 09-04-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

How much beer did you drink?

And what size of bottle was it and how far away from your seat was the bottle sitting?

Hi-Def Steve · 09-04-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

How much beer did you drink?

16 minutes, I expected better. LOL

bfellow · 09-04-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by persuazion

never heard of Dvdtimes......but I have heard of Dvdbeaver.......and they loved it!

They didn't "love" it. Braveheart got an up arrow and this didn't.

thebluemax · 09-04-2009, 12:35 AM

I watched "Gladiator" for a second time, and YES I see the flaws. While the DNR did not bother me all that much the EE is pretty bad, and the long shots could have been a lot sharper. I vote for a remaster asap.

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Nightfury82 Special Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Trading Score: (24) Collection: (1) HT Gallery: (0)	3.0 video review. Ouch. I'll still buy it. I'm sure Paramount knew people would buy it. __________________ Blu-ray Collection Totals: Overall (tba) Steelbooks (53) Have Seen (tba)

09-03-2009, 11:40 PM	#2410 (permalink)
Elvis Blu-ray Guru Join Date: May 2009 Location: Graceland, The Jungle Room Trading Score: (5) Collection: (129) HT Gallery: (0)	I hate DNR Snobs......sigh. __________________ “Tonight most people will be welcomed home by jumping dogs and squealing kids, their spouses will ask about their day and tonight they will sleep thus stars will wheel forth from their daytime hiding places; and one of those lights, slightly brighter than the rest, will be my wingtip passing over.” ~ Ryan Bingham "Up in the Air"

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Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Antonio Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (3)	I was watching Gladiator last night while drinking beer and IMO the pq isn't that bad. I'd say it looks more like HD DVD quality or an upconverted dvd. I won't be buying it though because a remastered version will be out soon. __________________ <-----------HT Setup needs to be updated so don't rate it just yet.

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09-03-2009, 10:56 PM	#2402 (permalink)
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	I sure hope some folks are at least giving this a chance with a rental than just flat out not buying it and not watching it at all.

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persuazion Power Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (100) HT Gallery: (0)	Who cant wait for Creepshow next week!!!!??

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thebluemax Expert Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	I watched "Gladiator" for a second time, and YES I see the flaws. While the DNR did not bother me all that much the EE is pretty bad, and the long shots could have been a lot sharper. I vote for a remaster asap.