Kill Bill 1 and 2 coming September 9

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Theatrical cuts, identical to the ones shown in US theaters and available on R1 DVDs, will be released on Blu-ray by Disney/Miramax on September 9th. The two movies are still separate, the fight scene will still go to black & white, etc.

The Whole Bloody Affair is a long-awaited recut by Tarantino that will combine both movies into one, and reportedly include other changes. The fight scene was originally intended to be in color (and was released in color in Japan), so that is one change expected in this new unrated director's cut. Other changes are rumored to include a new anime segment, changes to or removal of the scenes that bridged the gap between Kill Bill volumes 1 and 2, and changes in regards to the timing of one big reveal in the films. This cut of the films is owned by the Weinstein Company, and currently has no release date set for either DVD or Blu-ray.

[vick vega]

As much as I'd like it to be one movie w/fight scenes in color, I'd never buy a 3+ hour movie on 1 BD even if it was a BD-50. The PQ would suffer no matter what compression you used. I guess I'll be keeping my pre-order for these.

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Originally Posted by vick vega

As much as I'd like it to be one movie w/fight scenes in color, I'd never buy a 3+ hour movie on 1 BD even if it was a BD-50. The PQ would suffer no matter what compression you used. I guess I'll be keeping my pre-order for these.

It is very possible a 3+ hour movie could fit on a 50 GB BD without ill effects. We really haven't seen any movies on 50 GB discs where compression was the weakest link - I'd argue that most bad-looking BDs are due to the quality of the master or the ill-advised processing applied to the movie. I mean, just look at the pre-BD Profile 1.1 titles where two entire copies of movies were put on a single disc, often with great PQ (Crank for example).

Of course that's not to say that 50 GB will definitely be enough - but it's hardly the time to worry about that now. Let's see what Weinstein announces and how the quality turns out before complaining.

[Marine Mike]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

It is very possible a 3+ hour movie could fit on a 50 GB BD without ill effects. We really haven't seen any movies on 50 GB discs where compression was the weakest link - I'd argue that most bad-looking BDs are due to the quality of the master or the ill-advised processing applied to the movie. I mean, just look at the pre-BD Profile 1.1 titles where two entire copies of movies were put on a single disc, often with great PQ (Crank for example).

Of course that's not to say that 50 GB will definitely be enough - but it's hardly the time to worry about that now. Let's see what Weinstein announces and how the quality turns out before complaining.

To add on to this, they can release the special features on a seperate disc to leave more room on it for the feature film.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by Eternalnow

Booo colored fight scenes! I prefer the black and white ones!

Have you even seen it both ways? It's not just the color differences. All the cut footage makes a huge difference. Besides, it's ridiculous to still pretend that the black and white was some kind of purely artistic choice. It was the only way to get an R rating, even after the fight was cut to shreds. Yes, it was an artistic solution to a censorship problem, but it's still there only because of the MPAA.

[Lyle_JP]

Originally Posted by vick vega

As much as I'd like it to be one movie w/fight scenes in color, I'd never buy a 3+ hour movie on 1 BD even if it was a BD-50. The PQ would suffer no matter what compression you used. I guess I'll be keeping my pre-order for these.

Absurd. 50GB is more than enough room to easily fit a four hour movie in MPEG2, much less AVC, provided they don't feel the need to fill it with Dolby TrueHD tracks in 17 different languages or add bloated PCM to the mix.

[alexakajeff]

Will defiantly be enjoyable to have in my collection.

[Eternalnow]

Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

Have you even seen it both ways? It's not just the color differences. All the cut footage makes a huge difference. Besides, it's ridiculous to still pretend that the black and white was some kind of purely artistic choice. It was the only way to get an R rating, even after the fight was cut to shreds. Yes, it was an artistic solution to a censorship problem, but it's still there only because of the MPAA.

Oh, I'm not arguing that it was an artistic choice to render that scene in black and white, I merely stated "boo" because I really like the black and white image. I'll take the film as it was "meant" to be as well.

Either way, I'm damn excited

[CassilineKnight]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Theatrical cuts, identical to the ones shown in US theaters and available on R1 DVDs, will be released on Blu-ray by Disney/Miramax on September 9th. The two movies are still separate, the fight scene will still go to black & white, etc.

The Whole Bloody Affair is a long-awaited recut by Tarantino that will combine both movies into one, and reportedly include other changes. The fight scene was originally intended to be in color (and was released in color in Japan), so that is one change expected in this new unrated director's cut. Other changes are rumored to include a new anime segment, changes to or removal of the scenes that bridged the gap between Kill Bill volumes 1 and 2, and changes in regards to the timing of one big reveal in the films. This cut of the films is owned by the Weinstein Company, and currently has no release date set for either DVD or Blu-ray.

So basically we should wait for The Whole Bloody Affair right?

I hope they still have Kill Bill somewhere in the titles of the movies...just love the sound of them...

As for the whole color vs black & white thing I liked the B&W but I'd love to see the color versions as well. Is it possible that they'll include the option of seeing both on 1 film?

[ryoohki]

well 3 hours is 180 mins
Disney use AVC at 26mbits AVG and most of the time it between 18-22mbits

Knowing that :

26/8 = 3.25meg/sec = 195meg per minutes = 35.10gig
Audio = TrueHD 5.1 24bits = 3.2mbits/sec / 8 = 4,3gig for Audio
+ vanilla track for french + english + spanish = 1.9gig

41,3gig + Java + trailers + headroom = 47gig approx

Voilà it fit just perfectly wihtout extra.. put a second BD25 and full it to crap with extra..

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by CassilineKnight

So basically we should wait for The Whole Bloody Affair right?

Normally I would say "yes", but The Whole Bloody Affair keeps getting delayed, so who really knows when it will actually be released.

[Eternalnow]

Originally Posted by CassilineKnight

So basically we should wait for The Whole Bloody Affair right?

I hope they still have Kill Bill somewhere in the titles of the movies...just love the sound of them...

As for the whole color vs black & white thing I liked the B&W but I'd love to see the color versions as well. Is it possible that they'll include the option of seeing both on 1 film?

Get whichever version you prefer...

[sockmodel7]

I might have to use waiting for WBA as an excuse not to go too far into debt this September.

[CheapChildren]

I'm very please we'll get the theatrical cuts first. But I'll bertainly get TWBA when it comes out.