Starship Troopers Problem

tqmilymi · 08-11-2008, 07:50 PM

I have the 2 disc special edition DVD from a few years ago. Is there PQ good enough to justify buying on Blu-Ray, even with the repeating scene? I've also read elsewhere that the AQ on the Blu-Ray is not as good as on the DVD.

jq71586 · 08-11-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tqmilymi

I have the 2 disc special edition DVD from a few years ago. Is there PQ good enough to justify buying on Blu-Ray, even with the repeating scene? I've also read elsewhere that the AQ on the Blu-Ray is not as good as on the DVD.

Well whoever wrote the AQ on the blu-ray is not as good as the DVD should be slapped. While the Dolby TrueHD track isn't reference material, it is still very good, IMO. The video again is not in the top tier of movies but a huge upgrade from the DVD version.

coolmilo · 08-11-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jq71586

Well whoever wrote the AQ on the blu-ray is not as good as the DVD should be slapped. While the Dolby TrueHD track isn't reference material, it is still very good, IMO. The video again is not in the top tier of movies but a huge upgrade from the DVD version.

I agree with you. This is a strong B+ effort from Sony and it delivers total bug squishing fun. Next weekend I am might watch Men in Black followed by Starship Troopers for the full gross out bug effect. I might need a can of bug spray too.

DavePS3 · 08-11-2008, 08:10 PM

THere were little things... details I never saw before and I've watched the SD special edition upconverted to 1080i several times. Impressive. There is grain present here and there and some interior low IRE scenes a tad down-putting but it's the source and still worth getting.

lgans316 · 08-15-2008, 01:00 PM

Missing frames

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Starship Troopers U.S Blu-ray

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=VHATWWwfgQI

Starship Troopers U.K Blu-ray

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2t9ZgZ4j0

1) Import BD is a tad sharper than the U.S BD. Please check close-up shots.
2) Colors on the U.S BD look a tad vibrant than the import BD.
3) U.S BD has more dirt and white specks than the import BD.
4) Peak bit rates better on the import BD which crosses 38 Mbps on many scenes.

Cortiz · 08-15-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by onehothemi

seems so....

Does anybody has a copy that DOES NOT have this editing error?

Grant Matrix · 08-15-2008, 03:03 PM

Has anyone heard anything about Sony admitting this problem?

BRu-LAy · 08-15-2008, 05:30 PM

I noticed it too. I just thought it was funny, especially the look he had while he was shooting.

Keith Lemon · 08-16-2008, 05:50 PM

This is bad news. I just heard about this. I haven't watched my US disc yet.

Is this error bad enough to notice to a casual viewer, or just people that know the film well?

So which version has the best picture? UK or US. What do people think?

Keith Lemon · 08-18-2008, 08:32 PM

I bought the UK edition today in Zavvi. I didn't think a few seconds would bother me, but I watched the US BD last night and had forgotten how much I loved the film. So I decided to get the best version.

badlieut · 08-19-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant Matrix

Has anyone heard anything about Sony admitting this problem?

I emailed Sony from an address on their website. They said they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix.

Keith Lemon · 08-19-2008, 02:11 PM

A fix as in some sort of replacement perhaps.

jkwest · 08-19-2008, 02:50 PM

hmm...I have the three movie boxset...

is it the same release as the standalone?

I will check later tonight if no one answers.

Keith Lemon · 08-30-2008, 10:45 AM

No update on this from the studio? Is it going to be quietly forgotten about I wonder. After all the same mistake was on the Superbit edition and nobody seemed to notice.

I think I prefer the transfer on the UK disc anyway, but still it's annoying to have to own two versions of a film on Blu-ray. Can you buy double cases from anywhere?

Dark Lord · 09-01-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jkwest

hmm...I have the three movie boxset...

is it the same release as the standalone?

I will check later tonight if no one answers.

Same here. And it is the same as the individual release.

Graboid · 10-02-2008, 12:08 AM

Has anyone heard any more about this problem being fixed. There has been more than enough time to address this issue and satisfy customers who want Starship Troopers corrected.

AaronSCH · 10-02-2008, 04:22 AM

UK version is superior and I prefer the cover art as well.

tqmilymi · 10-14-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyot

So I was just watching the first Starship Troopers and noticed something that angered me very much. I dont know if it's just my disc or all of them. So the scene where they are attacked at Whisky Outpost and Michael Ironside relodes and moves away from the shooting then looks back over the side and sees the bugs and then says 'Fall back into the compound' at that point it repeats the same scene shown seconds before with him reloading his gun then looking back over while the proper dialogue is being spoken. I've seen Starship Troopers hundreds of times as it's one of my favorite movies so I noticed this right away. I am wondering if other people can check to see if they have this same problem, if not then i ll have to email Amazon.com to get an exchange hopefully.

Has anyone heard if this problem is going to be addressed by the studio/distributor/whomever? I've held off on buying a copy in anticipation that they might release a corrected copy.

Kyot · 10-14-2008, 02:46 AM

Nothing yet, I am going to get the UK version again in the near future. I sold it before getting the trilogy assuming it would have been just as good, but I was wrong lol

Keith Lemon · 10-14-2008, 09:30 AM

Yeah the UK version is better.

If you want the trilogy set I believe the UK trilogy set still includes the current UK disc. It's nice small didgipack.

08-15-2008, 01:00 PM	#65 (permalink)
lgans316 Special Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore, India Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Editing error in action Missing frames http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?i...usukblupb2.jpg http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ukbdfaluz2.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ukbdfalit6.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ukbdfalsz4.jpg http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ukbdfalpr5.jpg Starship Troopers U.S Blu-ray http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=VHATWWwfgQI Starship Troopers U.K Blu-ray http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2t9ZgZ4j0 1) Import BD is a tad sharper than the U.S BD. Please check close-up shots. 2) Colors on the U.S BD look a tad vibrant than the import BD. 3) U.S BD has more dirt and white specks than the import BD. 4) Peak bit rates better on the import BD which crosses 38 Mbps on many scenes. __________________ Blu-ray : 213

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BRu-LAy Special Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lakerland, CA Trading Score: (11) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	I noticed it too. I just thought it was funny, especially the look he had while he was shooting. __________________ Olevia 42" Infocus DLP Projector Onkyo 5.1 Sound Soundmatters Fullstage HD Sound Oppo Upconverting PS3 I came to chew bubblegum and kick ass......and I'm all out of bubblegum

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jkwest Off-Topic King Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Trading Score: (20) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	hmm...I have the three movie boxset... is it the same release as the standalone? I will check later tonight if no one answers. __________________ “There’s no sense in beating a dead horse…unless it’s one of those zombie horses. You can’t beat them enough.” — Stephen Colbert

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Graboid Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wisconsin Trading Score: (0) Collection: (207) HT Gallery: (0)	Has anyone heard any more about this problem being fixed. There has been more than enough time to address this issue and satisfy customers who want Starship Troopers corrected. __________________ Dan "I'm really a good man, I'm just a very bad wizard."

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AaronSCH Special Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Trading Score: (1) Collection: (464) HT Gallery: (0)	UK version is superior and I prefer the cover art as well. __________________ My Blu-ray Collection

08-11-2008, 07:50 PM	#61 (permalink)
tqmilymi Power Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland Trading Score: (27) Collection: (241) HT Gallery: (0)	I have the 2 disc special edition DVD from a few years ago. Is there PQ good enough to justify buying on Blu-Ray, even with the repeating scene? I've also read elsewhere that the AQ on the Blu-Ray is not as good as on the DVD.

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DavePS3 Special Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	THere were little things... details I never saw before and I've watched the SD special edition upconverted to 1080i several times. Impressive. There is grain present here and there and some interior low IRE scenes a tad down-putting but it's the source and still worth getting.

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Grant Matrix Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Trading Score: (1) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Has anyone heard anything about Sony admitting this problem?

08-16-2008, 05:50 PM	#69 (permalink)
Keith Lemon Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England, UK Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	This is bad news. I just heard about this. I haven't watched my US disc yet. Is this error bad enough to notice to a casual viewer, or just people that know the film well? So which version has the best picture? UK or US. What do people think?

08-18-2008, 08:32 PM	#70 (permalink)
Keith Lemon Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England, UK Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	I bought the UK edition today in Zavvi. I didn't think a few seconds would bother me, but I watched the US BD last night and had forgotten how much I loved the film. So I decided to get the best version.

08-19-2008, 02:11 PM	#72 (permalink)
Keith Lemon Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England, UK Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	A fix as in some sort of replacement perhaps.

08-30-2008, 10:45 AM	#74 (permalink)
Keith Lemon Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England, UK Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	No update on this from the studio? Is it going to be quietly forgotten about I wonder. After all the same mistake was on the Superbit edition and nobody seemed to notice. I think I prefer the transfer on the UK disc anyway, but still it's annoying to have to own two versions of a film on Blu-ray. Can you buy double cases from anywhere?

10-14-2008, 02:46 AM	#79 (permalink)
Kyot Special Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Trading Score: (24) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (2)	Nothing yet, I am going to get the UK version again in the near future. I sold it before getting the trilogy assuming it would have been just as good, but I was wrong lol

10-14-2008, 09:30 AM	#80 (permalink)
Keith Lemon Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: England, UK Trading Score: (0) Collection: (0) HT Gallery: (0)	Yeah the UK version is better. If you want the trilogy set I believe the UK trilogy set still includes the current UK disc. It's nice small didgipack.

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