Criterion Collection Discussion

Beta Man · 02-17-2009, 07:26 PM

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EMAIL FROM CRITERION REGARDING REPLACEMENT CASES FOR ORIGINAL PAPER/DIGIBOOK CASES (Pricing is for U.S. orders only, although International orders are available for $15 each for the first two cases & then $2.50 for each additional)

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We are offering replacement cases for the following titles:

THE THIRD MAN

THE LAST EMPEROR

THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH

BOTTLE ROCKET

CHUNGKING EXPRESS

THE 400 BLOWS

THE LAST METRO

EL NORTE

LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD

Please note that we are temporarily out of stock on all cases and expect more to arrive next week. The cost for the replacement cases is $5 per case; this includes the cost of shipping. For multiple cases we offer a discount of $10 for the first two and $2.50 for each additional case beyond that (so, for instance, $12.50 for three cases).

To order the cases, simply make a payment to the email address store@criterion.com through PayPal, providing your mailing address and item(s) needed in the message field, and we'll send out the materials!

I hope this information is helpful! Please let me know if you have any more questions and thank you for supporting Criterion!

Best,

Jon Mulvaney
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McCrutchy · 02-17-2009, 07:53 PM

I have The Third Man (double-dipped from the 2007 DVD), but shamelessly, have not had a chance to watch it. Might get The Last Emperor, but I don't know if I'll like the others enough to indulge--although I loved The 400 Blows and have the DVD.

Beta Man · 02-17-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy

I have The Third Man (double-dipped from the 2007 DVD), but shamelessly, have not had a chance to watch it. Might get The Last Emperor, but I don't know if I'll like the others enough to indulge--although I loved The 400 Blows and have the DVD.

I have just "The Third Man" right now on Blu-ray..... (It starts with one

) it's a great transfer..... I'm glad to see they are putting forth the same effort with Blu-ray, as they did with DVD.

I just bought "The Last Emperor" "El Norte" and "The Man Who Fell To Earth" I can't wait for them to get here, as I have not watched them on blu-ray yet. I have Chungking and Bottle Rocket on DVD, and will certainly try to pick those up as soon as possible too..... (planning on getting ALL of them, as they come out.... )

lolototo · 02-17-2009, 08:17 PM

I've got Bottle Rocket and Chungking Express and realy enjoyed watching them for the first time. have RAN and The Last Metro on my willing list. won't double-dip The Last Emperor which i think is not comparable with the DVD collection pack i bought early last year.

MortenR. · 02-17-2009, 08:41 PM

I just want to buy them all!

Beta Man · 02-17-2009, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MortenR.

I just want to buy them all!

That's my plan!

zedd_117 · 02-17-2009, 08:43 PM

I promised myself that I wouldn't double dip. Then I bought The Third Man again, now I've got Ran lined up in my sights for May.
*sigh* what is a promise if it can't be broken.

Oh, and I have a non-Criterion edition of Bottle Rocket on DVD, so does that count as double dipping? hmmm...

zedd_117 · 02-17-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

That's my plan!

Mine too! (Maybe not the ones I have on reg. DVD...depends on the movie)

RoboDan · 02-17-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MortenR.

I just want to buy them all!

Same here. As of now, only have Chungking Express. Will try to pick up a few more before Ran, but once that title hits, I'll be all over it!

Belloche · 02-17-2009, 08:59 PM

I am hoping they decide to take the plunge and start at least releasing all new movies on blu. They just announced The Friends of Eddie Coyle on DVD. Criterion discs aren't cheap and I can't justify paying those kind of prices for DVDs at this point. They also have a bunch of catalouge titles that I'm going to wait out to see if they give them the blu treatment.

zedd_117 · 02-17-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Belloche

I am hoping they decide to take the plunge and start at least releasing all new movies on blu. They just announced The Friends of Eddie Coyle on DVD. Criterion discs aren't cheap and I can't justify paying those kind of prices for DVDs at this point. They also have a bunch of catalouge titles that I'm going to wait out to see if they give them the blu treatment.

I remember reading that they were going to keep releasing standard DVDs at their current pace (3 to 4 per month) for the foreseeable future. Blu-rays are to be released at a much slower pace (1 to 2 titles per month) until DVD's momentum dies down.

It's smart marketing. If the release a title now on DVD that you really want, chances are you'll buy it now. If you really enjoy the title, odds are good that a few years down the road, when it gets the blu-ray treatment (which, oddly enough, is the same treatment they give their DVDs) you'll buy it again. Hence, the "double-dip".
Frustating for us collectors, probably not noticed by "Joe Public". Heck, I bet if you ask 10 random people on the street what the Criterion Collection is, you'd be hard-pressed to find 1 who knows.

SillyMammo · 02-17-2009, 09:18 PM

I double dipped on The Last Emperor and will probably get In the Realm of the Sense.

pro-bassoonist · 02-17-2009, 09:26 PM

Aside from The Third Man, The 400 Blows and The Wages of Fear are two films that are absolutely essential for every serious film library.

Pro-B

ps
Beta-Man, very good idea to have a sticky Criterion thread so we could streamline all the info that will be coming up in the future

zedd_117 · 02-17-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Aside from The Third Man, The 400 Blows and The Wages of Fear are two films that are absolutely essential for every serious film library.

Pro-B

Thank You.
There's a guy over in The "RAN" thread that annouced that "Finally a film that matters" is being released (in reference to Ran).

Happy to find others share my thoughts.

graf1k · 02-17-2009, 10:04 PM

I don't see the sense in buying the entire Criterion Collection (whether on DVD or Blu) unles you like all the movies (no very likely but I'm sure there's someone). That said, eventually I'll pick up The Third Man and probably Ran. I plan to rent Wages of Fear, 400 Blows and possibly In the Realm of Senses as I have not seen them yet but have heard good things.

Beta Man · 02-17-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by graf1k

I don't see the sense in buying the entire Criterion Collection (whether on DVD or Blu) unles you like all the movies (no very likely but I'm sure there's someone). That said, eventually I'll pick up The Third Man and probably Ran. I plan to rent Wages of Fear, 400 Blows and possibly In the Realm of Senses as I have not seen them yet but have heard good things.

I can understand where you're coming from..... I guess some people collect blu-ray movies just to own them, or perhaps to have them available for others who may want to see them.... I myself don't want "Every" blu-ray movie out there, and currently don't find 700+ titles currently available as movies I want to own...... But it's quite obvious there are a good number of people here who have that many movies, and some have over 1,000

Where I find the Criterion Collection differs, is in the fact that they hand-select movies to give their "Royal Treatment" to..... so although the Criterion Collection had caused me to purchase some movies that I had never seen before, and quite frankly some that I had never heard of..... They were all good quality films..... I didn't like some of them then... and I don't like them now for that matter.... but I'm glad I own them, because I will re-watch them, show them to friends, etc... because most of them provoke conversation, thought, etc....

With the Criterion Collection, unlike just any "blu-ray release" it's a way of collecting without the fear of wasting money on blu-rays you truly have no interest in owning, such as High-School Musical, Norbit etc.... although there is an audience for those films, Criterion selects their movies based on achievements, or artistic qualities...

Maybe I'm just compensating for my inability to get those hard-to-find baseball cards when I was a kid... who knows....

Some people collect NASCAR plates, I collect Criterion Collection Films....

pro-bassoonist · 02-17-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zedd_117

Thank You.
There's a guy over in The "RAN" thread that annouced that "Finally a film that matters" is being released (in reference to Ran).

Happy to find others share my thoughts.

Well, while I am pleased to see Ran arriving on Blu-ray, I would have loved it if they would have replaced it with a Fellini, Renoir, Tarkovsky, De Sica or Bergman film. I do understand, however, why at this point they opted for films such as Bottle Rocket, The Man Who Fell To Earth, and Ran.

Pro-B

Jimbo976 · 02-17-2009, 10:37 PM

So far I have them all except Bottle Rocket and am very happy with them. I am planning to buy the majority of the releases they put out on Blu but will likely have to scale back on them with some worries on my job and also no way to get these for reasonable prices in Canada any more. The Canadian MSRP's on the upcoming Criterion releases are insane and the Cdn. Dollar tanking has made buying from the US not a deal any more.

Personally my ranking so far of the ones I have is (from most favorite down):

#64 The Third Man
#304 The Man Who Fell to Earth
#453 Chungking Express
#422 The Last Emperor
#458 El Norte

Cordre69 · 02-17-2009, 10:39 PM

Either I am way too young or way too uncultured but...I haven't seen a 1 of those movies on that list!

reallyagi · 02-17-2009, 10:48 PM

Is Chungking Express worth a blind buy? I haven't seen it yet.

I know the reasonable thing to do is rent it and see if I like it, but...
I'm an unreasonable man in an unreasonable world.

Basically I want to know what you guys like about it.

(and don't tell me to look for the Chungking Express thread, I don't need your rules

)

02-17-2009, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
McCrutchy Special Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: East Coast, USA Trading Score: (0) Collection: (114) HT Gallery: (2)	I have The Third Man (double-dipped from the 2007 DVD), but shamelessly, have not had a chance to watch it. Might get The Last Emperor, but I don't know if I'll like the others enough to indulge--although I loved The 400 Blows and have the DVD. __________________ SEAN CONNERY/SIDNEY LUMET FANS! PLEASE SIGN MY PETITION TO GET THE OFFENCE ON BLU-RAY/DVD! Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-101FD 50" 1080p NTSC/PAL Signature Series Monitor Panasonic DMP-BD35 (Modified for Blu-ray Regions A, B and C and DVD Regions 1-6) COMING SOON Onkyo HT-S9100THX 7.1 Home Theater System TiVo HD XL DVR (2TB) with Verizon FiOS CableCARD Harmony 900 Universal Remote Control

02-17-2009, 08:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
zedd_117 Expert Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Monessen, PA Trading Score: (3) Collection: (197) HT Gallery: (0)	I promised myself that I wouldn't double dip. Then I bought The Third Man again, now I've got Ran lined up in my sights for May. sigh what is a promise if it can't be broken. Oh, and I have a non-Criterion edition of Bottle Rocket on DVD, so does that count as double dipping? hmmm... __________________ PSN: zedd117 Blu-blood since Jan. '07 Definitive Technology Mythos gems front L&R, rear L&R Definitive Technology Mythos 7 Center Definitive Technology Supercube III Sub

02-17-2009, 09:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
SillyMammo Power Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Trading Score: (2) Collection: (68) HT Gallery: (0)	I double dipped on The Last Emperor and will probably get In the Realm of the Sense. __________________ "By the time a man realizes that maybe his father was right, he usually has a son who thinks he's wrong." -Charles Wadsworth "Behind every successful man is a surprised mother-in-law." PSN ID: SillyMammo

02-17-2009, 09:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
pro-bassoonist Blu-ray reviewer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: X Trading Score: (7) Collection: (298) HT Gallery: (47)	Aside from The Third Man, The 400 Blows and The Wages of Fear are two films that are absolutely essential for every serious film library. Pro-B ps Beta-Man, very good idea to have a sticky Criterion thread so we could streamline all the info that will be coming up in the future __________________ Cahiers du Cinema Cinémathèque Française The Studio Canal Collection

02-17-2009, 10:04 PM	#15 (permalink)
graf1k Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Trading Score: (16) Collection: (58) HT Gallery: (0)	I don't see the sense in buying the entire Criterion Collection (whether on DVD or Blu) unles you like all the movies (no very likely but I'm sure there's someone). That said, eventually I'll pick up The Third Man and probably Ran. I plan to rent Wages of Fear, 400 Blows and possibly In the Realm of Senses as I have not seen them yet but have heard good things. __________________ Pioneer PDP-5020FD \| Denon AVR-2809CI \| B&W 683s/HTM61/686s Sony Playstation 3 80GB \| Microsoft Xbox 360 Elite \| APC AV H15

02-17-2009, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
lolototo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beijing, P. R. China Blu-ray SteelBook™: 125 Trading Score: (7) Collection: (372) HT Gallery: (49)	I've got Bottle Rocket and Chungking Express and realy enjoyed watching them for the first time. have RAN and The Last Metro on my willing list. won't double-dip The Last Emperor which i think is not comparable with the DVD collection pack i bought early last year.

02-17-2009, 08:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
MortenR. Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Trading Score: (0) Collection: (364) HT Gallery: (0)	I just want to buy them all!

02-17-2009, 08:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Belloche Expert Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Trading Score: (2) Collection: (170) HT Gallery: (0)	I am hoping they decide to take the plunge and start at least releasing all new movies on blu. They just announced The Friends of Eddie Coyle on DVD. Criterion discs aren't cheap and I can't justify paying those kind of prices for DVDs at this point. They also have a bunch of catalouge titles that I'm going to wait out to see if they give them the blu treatment.

02-17-2009, 10:37 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jimbo976 Blu-ray Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Trading Score: (1) Collection: (127) HT Gallery: (8)	So far I have them all except Bottle Rocket and am very happy with them. I am planning to buy the majority of the releases they put out on Blu but will likely have to scale back on them with some worries on my job and also no way to get these for reasonable prices in Canada any more. The Canadian MSRP's on the upcoming Criterion releases are insane and the Cdn. Dollar tanking has made buying from the US not a deal any more. Personally my ranking so far of the ones I have is (from most favorite down): #64 The Third Man #304 The Man Who Fell to Earth #453 Chungking Express #422 The Last Emperor #458 El Norte Last edited by Jimbo976; 02-17-2009 at 10:41 PM.

02-17-2009, 10:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Cordre69 Special Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Livermore, CA Trading Score: (1) Collection: (196) HT Gallery: (0)	Either I am way too young or way too uncultured but...I haven't seen a 1 of those movies on that list! __________________ Ohhh everybody wants my Nummy Yum Yums~

02-17-2009, 10:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
reallyagi Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Trading Score: (0) Collection: (129) HT Gallery: (1)	Is Chungking Express worth a blind buy? I haven't seen it yet. I know the reasonable thing to do is rent it and see if I like it, but... I'm an unreasonable man in an unreasonable world. Basically I want to know what you guys like about it. (and don't tell me to look for the Chungking Express thread, I don't need your rules )

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