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Old 12-10-2008, 04:24 PM   #581 (permalink)
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Considering I've tried them now on different tvs and monitors, yeah i think i can tell a difference.
so then what cable would you recomend for long distance for a projector ?
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:29 PM   #582 (permalink)
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so then what cable would you recomend for long distance for a projector ?
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:03 PM   #583 (permalink)
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Sorry, but anyone who thinks that an expensive HDMI cable is going to give you better picture over a cheaper one, well lets just say the sales person did a good job convincing you...
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:14 PM   #584 (permalink)
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If you check hdmi.org, it answers a lot of questions. The only real difference in a more expensive cable is either, if it's pure fiber optic for long lengths or what they call 'high speed' which is sometimes used for PC/Mac applications. In a home theater situation... any basic HDMI cable will do all versions, all HDCP etc.

You're dealing with marketing dollars in most cases here. If the cable is copper inside... doesn't matter what color the jacket is or how thick it is.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:15 PM   #585 (permalink)
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...and by long distance, I'm talking longer that 60 feet for 1080p with HDCP.
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #586 (permalink)
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Default CNET tells all to buy cheap HDMI

Here it is. CNET telling the world not to spend more than $10 per cable and recommending monoprice.
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I prefer firefold to monoprice but it's a solid recommendation. Firefold is local to me so no shipping and I get 10% off.
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I went to best buy to pick up my family x-mas gift a Samsung Blu Ray Player and I asked the guy to show me were the HDMI cables were and he tried to get me to buy a Rocket Fish HDMI cable that was 59.99! I asked if they had a cheaper one and he told me they had one for 32.99 then I asked are you sure you don't have any cheaper ones he said no and if I went cheaper it wouldn't look good on my tv. I said forget it and went on the buy the blu ray player. I went to Wal-Mart across the street found an HDMI cable for 15.00 bucks. BB trys to F*&# you when it comes down to it silly sales man trying to get me to waste 60 damn dollars lol.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:04 AM   #589 (permalink)
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I prefer firefold to monoprice but it's a solid recommendation. Firefold is local to me so no shipping and I get 10% off.
+1 for firefold. but i've only bought from them because of another forum i frequent.
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I always wondered what those who were supposed to choose cheap upscaling DVD players, instead of BD, were going to use?

A $50 cable with a $75 player?

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Digital is 0 and 1s but all the 0 and 1s have to make to the other side and in the right sequence. I work with digtal signals and trust me a crappy cable can mess things up. So the argument that its digital, its works or it dosn't isn't exactly true.
LOL - I've never heard of a crappy cable switching bit sequences

Digital means, generally, that for cables if you see the picture without dropouts that the picture will be indistinguishable whether over a short or long cable. Folks who claim that they can see the difference (e.g. "clarity" or resolution or such) over a short run of different cables are "wanting" to see the difference. After signal conditioning in the TV, the bit sequence will be *exactly* the same. The only way that a crappy cable will show itself is with dropouts / errors, which will cause visible artifacts on the picture.
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+1 for firefold. but i've only bought from them because of another forum i frequent.
I would have never heard of them if it wasn't for another forum and then getting offered 10% is even better.
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:19 PM   #593 (permalink)
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I've recently purchased HDMI cables from this site:

http://www.mycablemart.com/store/car...FREChgod9WC1UQ

The only setback is shipping is almost $10....
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I just get them off amazon for around 6-7 bucks shipped
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LOL - I've never heard of a crappy cable switching bit sequences

Digital means, generally, that for cables if you see the picture without dropouts that the picture will be indistinguishable whether over a short or long cable. Folks who claim that they can see the difference (e.g. "clarity" or resolution or such) over a short run of different cables are "wanting" to see the difference. After signal conditioning in the TV, the bit sequence will be *exactly* the same. The only way that a crappy cable will show itself is with dropouts / errors, which will cause visible artifacts on the picture.
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So according to these articles monoprice hdmi cables are garbage for long range?
Yes, that how I would sum it up.
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However that's not saying that such cable will be future proof. Test's have already shown that 1440p signals or higher resolution will be putting high demands on HDMI cable construction and quality and that's when you might be better off going Monster Cable or some esoteric brand X.
rest assured, when 1440p sources become mainstream...or even existent...monoprice will make a $4 cable that will work just fine.

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So according to these articles monoprice hdmi cables are garbage for long range?
there are members here who run 35ft, 50ft with no problems.
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"Why is HDMI still copper based?, why not fibre?"
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"Why is HDMI still copper based?, why not fibre?"
fiber for hdmi is still expensive. with a cheap hdmi cable only being a couple of dollars. no matter what length of fiber you used you would still have to have a transmitter and receiver and dual fiber lines for each connection. you can get fiber converters that let you run around 300m but they are pretty pricey, so unless you need to run long distances you don't have to buy the fiber system which means you can keep prices low just a thought though
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