Originally Posted by ldgibson76
Wheres Dan (ddgtr) when we need him!?!
This is one of the reasons I love Dan's system so much. He has this pass thru thing all figured out. And so does BigRed!
HT pass through is basically allowing the signal from a processor (or AVR in this case) to feed the amplifiers without having to switch cables around. Take Dan's system for instance,.....
The Odyssey (additional pre-amp) would become his main preamp for 2 channel and at the flick of a switch, the AVR, acting as a processor would be feeding the amplifiers the signal for the front channels when using 5/6/7.1 home theater. Your AVR would still be used to power your center and rears. The front L & R would be dedicated to the 2 channel pre amp.
Therefore he would have the better quality Odyssey for two channel listening.
I hope I explained it correctly!:o
Below is an article that really explains it without the use of e-bonics I used in my description!
Here I am ld, thanks for the kudos! You have done an excellent job explaining it, and this is a good article, too...
Originally Posted by vega2K
Damn derailers! Get back on track! :p
I don't think anyone answered phansson's question. I hate it when you guys ignore us! :p I would like to know too. I have an old 1980's Pioneer Turntable (works fine), which I simply have not had an interest in hooking up. But if I understand the whole TT approach, do's and do not's, etc. I may just have to try it out.'
I always thought that if you hook-up the TT to the phono on your AVR, the output would simply go through the appropriate two channels on my separate Parasound AMP, assuming you set it to Direct. I know my AVR does this with CDs through the PS3. What is the need to by-pass HT? Even more stupid question is why do you need a separate 2 channel set-up, given my obviously flawed understanding? :shrug:
I am a bit late to the party, but I'll chew on the crums...:D It's just that this section moves so darn fast if you don't check everything out daily you fall way behind with what's going on...
Here is my take on this, but please be warned: it is my personal opinion, as always. Also, please understand that I realize this is mainly an HT forum rather than a 2 channel one and as such HT is the main focus. But...
My main interest is music, with movies coming in a distant 2nd place. Don't get me wrong, I can watch movies all day but there is something about a properly recorded song, playing on a well put together system. I used to use my receiver's Pure Mode (for 2 channel) which on Onkyo's it's a great feature and the sound is phenomenal. However, when I first heard the Odyssey tube preamp it was like an eye opener, a revelation. I was hooked. Yes, a receiver is definitely good enough. But I want more. Most of the receivers are mass produced and although of good quality, it can't compare with hand made components like a Modwright, Odyssey, Rogue, Pass, and the list goes on. These guys make it their life long mission to get the best sound possible, and to my ears, it shows! Yes you can plug everything into your receiver, but very few can measure up against separates!
And it's not just the preamp. It's the whole chain, starting with the recording itself. I have all my music archived in FLAC format, I play it through a bit perfect sound card, on to a well respected DAC, on to the tube preamp, to an external crossover, to the sub, 2 channel amp and finally to the fronts. In vega's case, the TT would go to the preamp.
This is for my 2 channel. The receiver can be either on or off, it doesn't matter at this point.
The preamp has a switch labeled HT bypass. Back to this later.
The receiver's front L and R preouts are connected to one of the preamp's inputs (mine has 4 pairs). So, no fronts will be connected to the receiver except indirectly via the preouts. The center and rears are still directly connected and powered by the receiver.
When I want to watch a movie, I switch the HT bypass on on the preamp. What that does, it gives the receiver full volume control while disabling volume on the preamp. (you wouldn't want 2 volume controls, right?) The receiver is now the brain and the 2 channel system just obeys. You can still run Audyssey and so on, the only "limitation" and I wouldn't call it that - is you'd have to set your fronts to "large" on the reciever because the crossover takes care of the signal down the line. Other than that, everything works in perfect harmony, you still get your HD sound and all.
I admit, if 2 channel is not a priority, then this is not worth it. But so far, whoever hears say Pepe Romero's Flamenco K2HD cd on a decent 2 channel rig automatically say they want such a setup. Not only that, but not knowing there are only 2 speakers and the sub firing, they always comment on how nice all the surround speakers work together - it's that good!!
Gentlemen, sorry for the bad novel I just wrote, you'll certainly get a migraine just trying to follow it!! Hey, since everyone can write a bestseller nowadays, I might even get a free pass and not get blasted for it!!!
P.S. ld, I hope I didn't embarass you, after how much pimping you've done on my behalf!!:D:D
P.P.S. I WANT MY LOTR EXTENDED EDITION IN BLURAY NOW!!!!:rock: