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retablo 07-07-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dub2108 (Post 3466589)
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is on the netflix instantly watch library. Just wanted to let everyone know especially if you are like me and hated paying for The Orphanage and then having to read the subtitles the whole time. Feel like I can't experience the true movie if I have to read every freakin word. Still haven't checked it out but plan to this week.

Then you're missing out on a lot of great movies. I feel bad for you.

los53 07-07-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo (Post 3467695)
Then you're missing out on a lot of great movies. I feel bad for you.

Agree. Too many great foreign films out there.

rockyoumonkeys 07-07-2010 12:49 PM

Oh don't worry, the US loves to remake good foreign movies into unwatchable domestic ones, and this one will be no exception.

binarymelon 07-07-2010 12:53 PM

Picked up the Canadian release last night, but won't be able to watch it for a while. My fiancée is still reading through the first book and I wouldn't to spoil anything for her.

jhiggy23 07-07-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SleeperAgent (Post 3467174)
It now says "Temporarily out of stock" on amazon. I think they might have been getting complaints about it. Can't think of any other reason they would take it down on release day.

It has nothing to do with complaints at all. Look at the bluray.com homepage--it's the number 1 selling blu. I've had mine preordered from Barnes and Noble for 3 weeks and it's sold old--my shipment is delayed. I think you're underestimating how huge of a movie this is.

jhiggy23 07-07-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by QuasidodoJr (Post 3467455)
Just finished watching my U.S. copy. The movie's great, so I don't really need to say much else about that aspect of it.

As for picture quality, I'd probably give it a 7.5/10. It's not demo material, but it still looks pretty sharp. There doesn't appear to be any kind of digital manipulation. Fine detail is noticeable most of the time, although there are quite a few shots with soft focus. There were also a few rare occasions where the blacks crushed a bit, but it's never really distracting. The black levels, overall, are fairly good. Shadow delineation could certainly be better, however. On the whole, though, this looks much better than the print I saw in an old, art house theater, which had it slightly out of focus and the print itself was riddled with damage. I'm pleased with the transfer.

The audio, I'd give a 6.5/10. As I mentioned earlier, the U.S. disc only has lossy 5.1 Dolby Digital soundtracks, one in Swedish and one in English dubbing. But the track that's on here certainly isn't bad. The film itself is mostly dialog, but it's a nice mix. The dialog is clear and doesn't get lost in the score. I'm sure it would have sounded better with a lossless soundtrack. However, I don't think the soundtrack included is inferior enough to detract any fans from picking this disc up.

Overall, I'd give it a recommendation. If the audio is too much of an issue for you, I'm sure you can wait and import a disc somewhere down the road that will have a lossless soundtrack and English subtitles. The rest of us can be happy with this release.

Thanks for the review! It sounds like you're like me--the movie is the most important thing, and as long as the technical qualities aren't terrible all is good.

jhiggy23 07-07-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo (Post 3467695)
Then you're missing out on a lot of great movies. I feel bad for you.

Me too.

Trogdor2010 07-07-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by QuasidodoJr (Post 3467455)
Just finished watching my U.S. copy. The movie's great, so I don't really need to say much else about that aspect of it.

As for picture quality, I'd probably give it a 7.5/10. It's not demo material, but it still looks pretty sharp. There doesn't appear to be any kind of digital manipulation. Fine detail is noticeable most of the time, although there are quite a few shots with soft focus. There were also a few rare occasions where the blacks crushed a bit, but it's never really distracting. The black levels, overall, are fairly good. Shadow delineation could certainly be better, however. On the whole, though, this looks much better than the print I saw in an old, art house theater, which had it slightly out of focus and the print itself was riddled with damage. I'm pleased with the transfer.

The audio, I'd give a 6.5/10. As I mentioned earlier, the U.S. disc only has lossy 5.1 Dolby Digital soundtracks, one in Swedish and one in English dubbing. But the track that's on here certainly isn't bad. The film itself is mostly dialog, but it's a nice mix. The dialog is clear and doesn't get lost in the score. I'm sure it would have sounded better with a lossless soundtrack. However, I don't think the soundtrack included is inferior enough to detract any fans from picking this disc up.

Overall, I'd give it a recommendation. If the audio is too much of an issue for you, I'm sure you can wait and import a disc somewhere down the road that will have a lossless soundtrack and English subtitles. The rest of us can be happy with this release.

I do have a question about this BD release. This is about subtitle placement. I personally am not worried about it lacking lossless audio (disappointing yes), but I really hate the subtitles in the black bar. I have a CIH set up, which allows me to watch "scope" movies without the black bars. Did they place the subtitles in the picture (Like Criterion) or "cut" it in the black bar and picture (like sony does).

househead 07-07-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor2010 (Post 3469165)
I do have a question about this BD release. This is about subtitle placement. I personally am not worried about it lacking lossless audio (disappointing yes), but I really hate the subtitles in the black bar. I have a CIH set up, which allows me to watch "scope" movies without the black bars. Did they place the subtitles in the picture (Like Criterion) or "cut" it in the black bar and picture (like sony does).

Wow glad you brought this up. I forgot to check before purchasing as I need them in the picture too. Thanks for the heads up! :)

PS - no lossless is weak. I almost returned it after looking at the box.

QuasidodoJr 07-08-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Trogdor2010 (Post 3469165)
I do have a question about this BD release. This is about subtitle placement. I personally am not worried about it lacking lossless audio (disappointing yes), but I really hate the subtitles in the black bar. I have a CIH set up, which allows me to watch "scope" movies without the black bars. Did they place the subtitles in the picture (Like Criterion) or "cut" it in the black bar and picture (like sony does).

I couldn't remember for certain, so I just popped it in and checked. The subs are contained within the image, so they are indeed compatible with a CIH set-up.

Trogdor2010 07-08-2010 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by househead (Post 3470580)
Wow glad you brought this up. I forgot to check before purchasing as I need them in the picture too. Thanks for the heads up! :)

PS - no lossless is weak. I almost returned it after looking at the box.

I have been used to lossy audio for most of the time I had my blu ray player. I only got to lossless audio because I got a blu ray player with analog outputs (for $50), and I like lossless, but not a deal breaker for me. I am far more concern about a movie I can't watch properly, which makes me angry when I can't watch it in true " scope". The oppo BDP-83 does have subtitle shift for some movies with "cut" subtitles.

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Originally Posted by QuasidodoJr (Post 3470749)
I couldn't remember for certain, so I just popped it in and checked. The subs are contained within the image, so they are indeed compatible with a CIH set-up.

That is great to hear :). I'll be getting it when I get my projector fixed.

bytor 07-08-2010 12:49 PM

I'm dying to see this but it will be backed up on Netflix for a LONG time I think. Worth the blind buy? Does it have much replay value?

biglou114 07-08-2010 01:13 PM

Just watched this last night, and enjoyed it immensely.

I was thinking about buying it, but I reminded myself that the two sequels are being released this year and there is a rumor floating about that Music Box will release a boxset of all three, with the extended television cuts of each film later this year. For that I think I can wait.

jhiggy23 07-08-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bytor (Post 3472326)
I'm dying to see this but it will be backed up on Netflix for a LONG time I think. Worth the blind buy? Does it have much replay value?

Depends on your taste. Most ppl consider it one of the great murder mystery thrillers not only of this year, but of all-time. The characters alone make it have replay value.

ewsjr 07-08-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bytor (Post 3472326)
I'm dying to see this but it will be backed up on Netflix for a LONG time I think. Worth the blind buy? Does it have much replay value?

The film is available for streaming on Netflix in HD if you have that. It looks pretty good in 720p but the subtitles were a bit of a problem as one third of the second line was covered by the bottom of the frame. It definitely is the film itself so I'm not sure what's up with that. It's a good film (but boy what is Larsson’s problem with women, good thing they changed the original title Men Who Hate Women) the best thing being Rapace and her performance. She is electric. Still debating if this is a buy for me.

jhiggy23 07-08-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ewsjr (Post 3472599)
The film is available for streaming on Netflix in HD if you have that. It looks pretty good in 720p but the subtitles were a bit of a problem as one third of the second line was covered by the bottom of the frame. It definitely is the film itself so I'm not sure what's up with that. It's a good film (but boy what is Larsson’s problem with women, good thing they changed the original title Men Who Hate Women) the best thing being Rapace and her performance. She is electric. Still debating if this is a buy for me.

Agree on everything but the title, which I can't fault you on since it's apparent you didn't read the books. Men Who Hate Women is the absolute perfect title for not only the first book, but the series. Larsson had no problem with women at all, so I have no idea what you're talking about; he was a champion of their cause. The main and most significant point of the series is the violence and abuse against women in Sweden.

Exist2Inspire 07-08-2010 03:50 PM

From the U.K. Forums

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Originally Posted by Antonvanbeek (Post 3467888)
Sorry to be the voice of disappointment, but having received a UK Blu-ray review copy several weeks ago I can confirm that there is no lossless audio. All you get are Swedish and English language soundtracks, both presented in a choice of Dolby Digital 5.1 and stereo incarnations.

The extras are pretty disappointing too. The only material relating to the making of the film are the interviews with the producer (12mins) and lead actress (13mins). Other than that, all that's on offer is the UK theatrical trailer, a 5min clip and trailer for The Girl Who Played with Fire, a photo gallery, a static-page depicting the Vanger Family Tree and two static pages containing some pretty usesless factoids about the success of the Millennium Trilogy books.

Shame, because it's a great film that I think does a damn fine job of capturing a lot of what really worked about the original novel.


Adrock 07-08-2010 04:06 PM

I picked this up yesterday. Hoping to give it a watch by the end of the weekend. Thanks to everyone for your commentary, definitely sold me on a blind buy, and even has me considering picking up all of the novels. :)

jhiggy23 07-08-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by adrock41 (Post 3473031)
I picked this up yesterday. Hoping to give it a watch by the end of the weekend. Thanks to everyone for your commentary, definitely sold me on a blind buy, and even has me considering picking up all of the novels. :)

Def pick up the novels.

ewsjr 07-08-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiggy23 (Post 3472627)
Agree on everything but the title, which I can't fault you on since it's apparent you didn't read the books. Men Who Hate Women is the absolute perfect title for not only the first book, but the series. Larsson had no problem with women at all, so I have no idea what you're talking about; he was a champion of their cause. The main and most significant point of the series is the violence and abuse against women in Sweden.

I just meant that they changed the title for the movie since it also apparently wasn’t sexy enough for English-language bookshelves. I'm sure they felt that the original title wouldn't help with the box office. Plus, I think people coming in cold to the movie could wonder (I know I did until I started reading about the books and the author) about the brutality and the torture to not only Salender but to other characters and the victims since they would have no subtext with which to view it.


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