Blu-ray Forum - Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Original & Prequel Trilogy - Sept 16, 2011

I'd imagine a few people will get a little piece of the pie. Lucas and Fox will make the big bucks (although Fox won't make as much as they could have, Lucas had a very good contract which he gave up some rights for ones the studio thought of as having little value (merchandise and home video sales)) and maybe a few actors may have little percentages as well. If I remember the cast and crew were given bonuses from the profit the originals made although I don't think it will be carried over to the Blu-ray sales.

I might be thinking of the wrong director but I thought Lucas bought a certain make of car for key people in the cast and crew as a bonus. I may have my wires crossed though.

Chordata

08-24-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skyofcrack (Post 5114904)

Thanks for these scans! It's hilarious to know why 3PO ripped that sign off now. :D Can't wait to see all these cut scenes.

Once again, you can see almost all of those scenes in those spectacular fan-made YouTube documentaries on the OT. The Biggs one is awful - such a great decision to cut it. The pacing was bad and made Luke look like a bigger wuss than he is.

I do wish the ROTJ scenes remained, however. Those add some depth to an otherwise shallow movie.

HeavyHitter

08-24-2011 04:52 PM

When do reviewers get their hands on these?

Ernest Rister

08-24-2011 04:53 PM

So Spielberg staged Order 66, the Wookie Battle, the Yoda/Palpatine Battle, part of the Mustafar duel and the Grievous chase?

I always understood he worked on the Anakin/Obi-Wan duel, and an unknown second scene, I didn't know he worked on so many other scenes in the movie.

HandyDandy

08-24-2011 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter (Post 5114943)

When do reviewers get their hands on these?

Probably in about a week.

But i suspect they may already have them and are waiting to hear from Fox with the go ahead to put up their review.

Jumpman

08-24-2011 04:55 PM

Yeah, Spielberg worked on the Utapau sequence. I think Lucas even mentions it on the commentary...and in one of the web documentaries, Lucas states it.

georgec

08-24-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by balthazar_bee (Post 5114445)

Well, we're talking about an art form here. If a work of art is seen by millions and beloved by millions, then intervening decades pass, and the artist decides to put a unibrow on the Mona Lisa, should he be restrained?

If it means we'll be deprived the perfectly lovely original version, yes.

If the films weren't finished in '77, '80, etc., then he shouldn't have released them.

It's an ethical issue, not a legal one. Sure, they physically belong to him, but when you start screwing around with film history (and hardly some minor footnote), you're on shaky ground.

If Orson Welles' last act were to create new colourized prints of Citizen Kane and destroy all B&W ones, should he have been allowed? Why complain? We've got "the classic version" on VHS and SD DVD?

Look, all of this antipathy is because of two simple facts: Lucas refuses to release some of the most important films in history; there are plenty of people out there who are perfectly willing to champion his indefensible argument. "Well, they're his movies -- he can do what he wants. If you don't like it, don't buy them. You're not a true fan," etc. It's childish in the extreme, even more childish than my inability to simply ignore such nonsense when I visit this board.

Most of us who aren't drinking the Kool-Aid are quick to point out that these objections would disappear if both versions were allowed to coexist (with the originals given appropriate restoration). This is called "being reasonable".

Enjoy your one-week suspension. ;)

This board only allows blind praise and defense of the deity Lucas. I've made similar points as you and I've been called a bully, a whiner, an a**hole, and other things before being suspended while those hurling the real hatred and insults go unnoticed.

Regarding these blu-rays with all the tidbits of additional changes, Matthew Wood remixing everything, etc., I'm really curious to see what reviewers say and how the lists of all changes from the 2004 versions add up.

skyofcrack

08-24-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter (Post 5114943)

When do reviewers get their hands on these?

It says at the end of those scans that there's a review on page 134. Any chance of getting a scan of the review?

Kris Deering

08-24-2011 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HandyDandy (Post 5114950)

Probably in about a week.

But i suspect they may already have them and are waiting to hear from Fox with the go ahead to put up their review.

Reviewers have not gotten copies yet. Fox titles are typically received the day of release or maybe a day earlier for Blu-ray titles. This has been the case for quite sometime now, probably to prevent copies from going onto torrent sites. I wouldn't expect reviews until the day of release or later.

skyofcrack

08-24-2011 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chordata (Post 5114930)

I've seen all those scenes but I haven't come across any Wompa attack scene as described in this article.

jyenor

08-24-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister (Post 5114946)

Also during filming Francis Ford Coppola flew down to Austrilia to visit Lucas on set and did some uncredited second unit work for Revenge of the Sith for fun for a few days.

There was even pictures of him on set doing this captured by the StarWars.com web cam that you could pay to view that was running all throught production but I don't think anything from that is still floating around out there online.

Beast

08-24-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by georgec (Post 5114976)

Not to drag us off topic... but I'm sure that's not what the ban is for. Pro and Anti Lucas people are suspended equally.

They don't want any discussion of the actual films in the thread. Which I know sounds weird, but eh... maybe they'll relax once the films are actually out. Nor do they want continued Pro-Lucas/Anti-Lucas debates. Or Pro-Prequel/Anti-Preque debates. Nor do they want bickering and fighting. Light discussion related to the actual Blu-Rays and any new info that surfaces about them is on topic. Continued attempts to drag it off topic after the Mods spent HOURS cleaning it is what isn't allowed. From what I was told this morning, like 20 pages had to be dealt with. That's all.

earmullet

08-24-2011 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4 (Post 5113737)

I do feel a tiny bit sorry for Frank Oz, since he worked so hard to bring Yoda back to life for "Phantom Menace", but the digital version does match a lot better with the other prequels.

Based on what Frank Oz said in some of the commentary on the Episode II DVD and since, I don't think he cares much.

RodChester

08-24-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skyofcrack (Post 5114979)

It says at the end of those scans that there's a review on page 134. Any chance of getting a scan of the review?

Yeah I would be interested to see what the review says as well. My guess is it's probably BS and will be written quite vaguely.

jyenor

08-24-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by earmullet (Post 5115006)

Based on what Frank Oz said in some of the commentary on the Episode II DVD and since, I don't he cares much.

Plus by 1999 Frank Oz did not enjoy doing puppetry at all. At his older age it was far harder for him to work the puppet (he even complained as much in some behind the scenes TPM footage). He had retired completely from The Muppets by this point due to that as well, and to this day he only will do one day of puppetry on Sesame Street each new season because of how much harder it is to operate puppets once you start getting advanced in the years.

gallandro

08-24-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by earmullet (Post 5115006)

Based on what Frank Oz said in some of the commentary on the Episode II DVD and since, I don't he cares much.

True, in fact in the Episode I DVD documentary Oz is showed some footage of one of the digital creatures in the film. He turns to GL and says, "You don't need me anymore."

Yancy

dvdmike

08-24-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest Rister (Post 5114841)

For Revenge of the Sith, Spielberg worked on the animatics for the duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan, and at the time, it was stated he worked on an unknown other scene. After having seen the film, I speculated the "other scene" was the Grievous/Obi-Wan chase. So if there is a "Spielberg chase" feature, I bet my deduction was right, and it's his animatics for the Grievous/Obi-Wan chase on Utapau or whatever the name of the sink-hole planet is.

He also "Directed" the opening space battle

Roonan

08-24-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by joliefan (Post 5114874)

will lucas get every single doller out of this release or will it go to 20 century fox too ?

Of course Fox will get some of it. They are the ones who are publishing it.

dvdmike

08-24-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by skyofcrack (Post 5114979)

It says at the end of those scans that there's a review on page 134. Any chance of getting a scan of the review?

Warning Empire hate Grain and loved Predator Ultimate Hunter.

Jumpman

08-24-2011 05:25 PM

gallandro,

I remember that moment about Oz from the documentary. That was a pretty telling moment from Oz.

The fact that Lucas hasn't touched the Yoda from Episodes V and VI should be a clear indication of what he thinks of Oz's work.

I just think he wanted digital from the get go with Yoda in the Prequels because he knew he would have to involve Yoda in more of the action during this part of the saga.

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