I do believe that's the case but all the run times on the UK set are several minutes shorter than the current US DVD's. I have a feeling they just copy and pasted the run times so they may not be accurate. The Dutch (?) case posted a few weeks ago had identical run times to the US DVD's.

http://bdlive.dk/media/movie/DK/Back...SagaBackDK.jpg

Is this Dutch? LOL I have no clue :p

On this cover, it shows: TPM = 138, AOTC = 142, ROTS = 140, ANH = 125, ESB = 128, ROTJ = 135

My DVDs: TPM = 133, AOTC = 142, ROTS = 140, ANH = 123, ESB = 129, ROTJ = 136

I know that the UK set had all shorter times, most were about 7 minutes shorter

Was it on the SE? I always thought it was something from the OUT. There was no echo on the latest Adywan release but there was on one of the Technicolor ones.

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9126/sagavx.jpg

Here's Cook's pic.

He actually addressed it earlier (Thanks ;)), but evidently it was buried quickly.

It shots TPM = 130 (or is it 138?), AOTC = 136, ROTS = 134, ANH = 119, ESB = 122, ROTJ = 130

If they add anything it will be VERY small things (some minor tweaks to effects, extra line of dialogue here and there). Major things would be saved for the 3D releases in theaters (they need to give people a reason to go other than 'ehhh' post conversion 3D, the fad is dying). I suspect not much difference between the 2004 DVDs and the 2011 Blu Rays, just minor tweaks and a serious upgrade in PQ/AQ.

Phantom Menace guys, seriously, not one of us has seen it like it will be presented on blu ray in over TEN years! That alone is worth the purchase of the set.

Hey guys, be thankful Universal isn't doing this. They are quickly becoming the big studio that loves to mess with transfers, considering recent releases full of EE and DNR.

My DVD's show (rounded to the nearest minute):

TPM DVD = 136
AOTC DVD = 142
ROTS DVD = 140
ANH DVD = 125
TESB DVD = 127
ROTJ DVD = 135

I think that's a 136 on the Denmark cover for TPM making all the times the same with possibly an extra minute on ESB. Then again, it depends how they round these things and run times on packages are always wrong. My Empire DVD even says 129 minutes when it's clearly not.

Conclusion: Whatever run time is written on the boxes cannot be trusted.

Thank god Scarface seems to be exempt from this tampering... judging by recent screenshots :D

Lol understandable. This thread moves incredibly fast and its hard to get a reliabble answer from it sometimes.

I think it's obvious that the UK times are accidentally listed as PAL. If you add 4% for the speedup the times will match up with the U.S. times.

A 4% speedup does not make any of them match the US times... Did you even try this before posting?

Also, you shouldn't be speeding PAL video up, you should be slowing it down...

A 1 minute NTSC video is 1500 frames. If you convert that to PAL, it's 1 minute and 2.5 seconds. So if the films were incorrectly listed as PAL, they should be longer.

Agreed, that DVD transfer is just horrible, I just watched again yesterday and I barely could stand the transfer, and it made me realize how much HD adds to the enjoyment I have of movies. I love LOTR, but I had watched the extended editions so much on dvd that I was bored sometimes when I was watching them ( and I'm serious compulsive rewatcher of movies haha) but now I can watch them on blu and it's a whole 'nother thing! You can see all the subtleties in the performances, it's a different experience ... that's why I can't wait to see Star Wars in bluray! Especially The Phantom Menace, i have very fond memories of that movie, I think I watched it in theaters about 10 times, seriously, I still have the ticket stubs haha xD ( i was 13 at the time I know some people hate that movie, but it was the first time for me that I watched a star wars movie in a theater)

I'm off to see "Are you afraid of the dark?" :D good night

I still can't believe some fans are still complaining about the blu-rays even through its been said that most of the A/V fixes from the dvd releases of the ot have been corrected. Well I guess you can't please everyone. I don't care what the complainers say the star wars saga on blu-ray is going to be a great box set.

Sorry, not blu-ray related

But has anyone with a "THX Certified" TV tried watching the 2004 DVDs in THX Mode?

I watched ESB yesterday and was amazed at how different the movie looked under properly calibrated settings.

In most Hoth scenes, the snow was actually white (there was the odd blue shot)! Vader's saber did not look pink for a second, although the issue with the cores bleeding was still present. Also, no garbage mattes to be seen.

Previously, I've only watched the Star Wars DVDs on my bedroom TV, which is obviously not calibrated correctly, but the DVDs looked incredible on my living room Panny.

This is, however, only regarding the colour timing. All other issues are obviously still present.

SPOILERS ALERT IF YOU NEVER SAW THE MOVIES!!!!

I just read something very interesting about Force Ghost:

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_%...29#Force_Ghost

Do you think Qui-Gon's death scene might be "updated" on the Blu-rays?

Unfortunately its a cut scene, but at least we get to see it.

You ADD time to a PAL run time to achieve an NTSC time.

Let's try one. A New Hope is showing 119 minutes.

119 x 1.04 = 123.76 or 124 if rounded. Same time as the NTSC DVD. Depending on how the original and re-calcuated times are rounded, they could be off by a minute and none of them are off by more than that. The UK PAL times are all consistent with the US DVD run times.

Check the back of the UK cover... lists ESB as 122 minutes. My DVD copy says 129 minutes.

122 x 1.04 = 126.88, off by anywhere from 2.12 to 2.61 minutes...

Why do you have to add time to PAL? You could just as easily take time away from NTSC. It's just a matter of what format the video was originally encoded in. In the case of Star Wars, wouldn't it be NTSC?

Put your Empire DVD in your player. It's 127 minutes, not 129. Don't go by the cover. The calculation works on that.

I'm just starting with the PAL times since that's what the UK cover is showing. I'm converting it back to what it should be for comparison.

Case closed :p
Silly me...