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Beast 08-31-2011 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Citizen_Steve (Post 5141474)
The first "No" in the ROTJ clip sounds like an altered sample of "No, I...am your father." The second No is definitely a sample from ROTS.

They compared the "Noooo" from the one in RotS. It's different.

It could certainly be an alternate take. But it's not the same one as used in RotS.

toddly6666 08-31-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Space2099 (Post 5141433)
Hey idiot!

Your comment was irelevent to what I was saying. I was not talking about weather one should or should not buy this set. I was talking about the changes that have been made to these movies and how they had been dumbed down for little kids (and retarded people like you) and I guess that is why you still intend to buy this set. Where as I do not.

Now please go Frak yourself!

Hey Space2099 and P@t_Mtl,

I know these upcoming blu-rays may be frustrating and causing fans tension amongst each other, but remember, keep calm and cool in here - Star Wars fans have possibly already become equal and less cool than Star Trek fans. We can't let the Trekkies seem cooler now, especially after all those years of a reputation of Star Wars fans being less nerdy/geeky than Star Trek fans! ;)

Beast 08-31-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HandyDandy (Post 5141477)
The first nooo seems to me like it's Vader saying it to himself as for the other nooo i think that is FAKED cause it sounds like the nooo from ROTS,and why would Lucas muffle the voice of the emperor in that scene it makes no sense.

The clip that has been posted online is not the actual clip from the Blu-Ray.

Someone took the MP3 of the recording from the Blu and synched it up with the previous DVD.

Those who have actually downloaded the rips have said it's much more natural than the "Sample" posted.

kurtlingle 08-31-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin (Post 5140676)
Well as I already explained I was comparing the attempt to delete the UOT from history to book burning, not the actual actions of the Nazis. I put Nazi in there because they are the most recognisible book burners. Simple as that, and not hyperbole in my opinion.

Bad example. Lucas did not (and will not) delete the UOT versions of the DVD found in many homes across America. He just doesn't plan to release these on blu-ray. Comparing that to the book burnings is pretty extreme.

They are his movies.

Citizen_Steve 08-31-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5141492)
They compared the "Noooo" from the one in RotS. It's different.

It could certainly be an alternate take. But it's not the same one as used in RotS.

That's what I was thinking. An alternate take of the line as recorded for ROTS.

HandyDandy 08-31-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5141492)
They compared the "Noooo" from the one in RotS. It's different.

It could certainly be an alternate take. But it's not the same one as used in RotS.

You're right i bet that it's part of the alternate scenes.

kurtlingle 08-31-2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jyenor (Post 5140723)
Seriously how can someone not have a problem with this:

Luke's saber is blue in Ben's hut.

It is magically white-green on the Falcon then for a single frame JUMPS to being light blue again (just so they could take that screen shot to claim in their press release they fixed it!) then JUMPS back to being white green for the rese of the scene.

Then the next movie is magically blue again..

I think some (maybe most) would realize this movie was made in the 1970's.

Beast 08-31-2011 03:43 PM

The biggest question about the release now... will people be able to maintain their rage until release date? :D

toddly6666 08-31-2011 03:43 PM

To follow up more with why a more "strained Nooooo!" (such as trying to say "no" when taking a crap or bench pressing) would be better, this second "no" also gives the impression that Palpatine is not that heavy. The way this "no" is expressed makes Palpatine as weightless as the rest of his other cartoon cut-out CGI characters in the prequels. When Vader didn't say "No", we sense that Vader used his last remaining energy to pick up Palpatine, but the "no" throws it all off now physically, besides the fact that it also makes it cheesy and takes away the original emotional punch of him not saying anything until his helmet is removed.

MrJoeKalel 08-31-2011 03:44 PM

First, thanks for making this thread the responsible for me not doing my work at my job...

Second, type "51 pounds into usd" into Google to convert pounds into US dollars (because, seriously, you've red almost 1200 pages in this forum but you don't have 30 seconds to type that in Google?).

Third...PATIENCE. Yes, just a couple of days closer to the REAL release of this blu-rays.

I do have to admit that the "overwhelming" flooding of these screenshots and sounds is making me believe those rips (illegal, btw), are the 'real thing'.

I still have my DD pre-order, because, after all, the PT should sounds and look AMAZING.

Maggot 08-31-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5141417)
More nonsense. The websites who were invited only wanted to check out the etxras discs!

The most recent check discs for all the movies were there. And they watched a bit of two of the movies.

Go read the actual coverage. It was the choice of those who were invited what to focus on.

Actually, he is most likely correct. The absolute correct thing to do would be for Lucas and company to come out, right now, and confirm or deny this. Wow, what a simple thing? Seriously, simply put out a statement regarding the vailidity of the two audio changes. Look at the way Lord of the Rings was handled by the studio with the green tint slathered on the first movie in the recent EE's. If I'm not mistaken, nothing was officially said until the release date or just there abouts.....how conveniant?

Beast 08-31-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 5141533)
To follow up more with why a more "strained Nooooo!" (such as trying to say "no" when taking a crap or bench pressing) would be better, this second "no" also gives the impression that Palpatine is not that heavy. The way this "no" is expressed makes Palpatine as weightless as the rest of his other cartoon cut-out CGI characters in the prequels. When Vader didn't say "No", we sense that Vader used his last remaining energy to pick up Palpatine, but the "no" throws it all off now physically.

You realize that Vader has enhanced Strength thanks to his cybernetic limbs, right?

Such as how he can effortlessly choke Captain Antilles in ANH with one hand while lifting him off the ground. And then toss him like a rag doll.

The systems of his suit and his cybernetic limbs weren't damaged until AFTER the lightning from Palpatine. All he'd lost before that is one hand.

srinivas1015 08-31-2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Citizen_Steve (Post 5141453)
So, now we have a "NOOOOOO!!!" in each of the films except for Attack of the Clones. Right?

TPM: Obi-Wan (as Qui-Gon gets stabbed)

AOTC: ??? (did I miss it?)

ROTS: Anakin (when Mace tries to Kill Palps)
Vader (learns of Padme's death)

ANH: Luke (at Obi-Wan's death)

ESB: Luke (I am your father)

ROTJ: Vader (redemption)

Yes, you did miss it :p .
Qui Gon screams 'ANAKIN...ANAKIN..NOOOOOOO!!' when Ani is killing the sand people.

DarthMarino 08-31-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HandyDandy (Post 5141514)
You're right i bet that it's part of the alternate scenes.

So part of your little conspiracy theory is that someone got a hold of special features disc, a 1080p copy of the movie superior to the HD broadcast and then added this in as a joke along with a bunch of other changes including new CGI in the Han scene, the corrected arm in the Wampa scene and an Ewok blinking then leaked it through a Chinese torrent uploader who often leaks rips of legit retail discs? And all this was done a few weeks before the actual release to be funny?

HandyDandy 08-31-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggot (Post 5141550)
Actually, he is most likely correct. The absolute correct thing to do would be for Lucas and company to come out, right now, and confirm or deny this. Wow, what a simple thing? Seriously, simply put out a statement regarding the vailidity of the two audio changes. Look at the way Lord of the Rings was handled by the studio with the green tint slathered on the first movie in the recent EE's. If I'm not mistaken, nothing was officially said until the release date or just there abouts.....how conveniant?

I doubt we will get a response ASAP cause it's not even 9 a.m over in CALIFORNIA.

So by the end of the day we will know for sure
[Show spoiler]Hopefully:ohnoes:

Jay444 08-31-2011 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beard Esquire (Post 5141490)
For real, dude. What yahoo article shows the Vader Nooo or the Obi Wan call? I'm not talking about the fixes. Nobody has shown any evidence that these changes are real. Nobody has a credible link other than, 'a trusted source'. Show me the proof that used to be required for journalism with integrity and I'll recant every word that I've said. Some downloaded torrent originating in China is not proof. The proof is a source any source right now here today.

What article on yahoo? The very same one I linked in my post that you commented on (here it is again for you): http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/31082011/...rs-fans-0.html

While they don't post the vids, they tell you where to find them and what the changes are (in a not so flattering manner). See, when reporting ANYTHING, like I dunno, say FOX news does, one doesn't need to qoute or show proof to damage something. The point I am trying to make, is the longer Lucasfilm stays silent, the more damage this can do, ESPECIALLY if it is a hoax and starts to get widly reported. Think: "Obama wasn't born in America."

Today's journalism is not like that of yesteryear. While you may have standards, most of the journalists in the world don't. They report editorials like fact (like some on this site..lol). You can say (as I am): "I won't believe it until I see it." but most aren't like us anymore. "This article says this, and its on all these other sites, it must be true. Not going to buy the set or going to cancel my preorder." This is why Lucas shouldn't be mum and should say SOMETHING.

HandyDandy 08-31-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthMarino (Post 5141564)
So part of your little conspiracy theory is that someone got a hold of special features disc, a 1080p copy of the movie superior to the HD broadcast and then added this in as a joke along with a bunch of other changes including new CGI in the Han scene, the corrected arm in the Wampa scene and an Ewok blinking then leaked it through a Chinese torrent uploader who often leaks rips of legit retail discs? And all this was done a few weeks before the actual release to be funny?

Till someone has the movies in their possession and can confirm than it's not legit....

Duffy12 08-31-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NYorker (Post 5140456)
If already...

Vader: "Nooo..."
Plapatine: "Eh? come again?"
Vader: "Nooooooooooooo!!"





:rotfl:





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Originally Posted by C A Iversen (Post 5140473)


http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/e/e1...2newshots.jpeg


If so, how'd Artoo get in and out of there? :confused:



Quite simple.


He extracted one of his little mechanical arms, and just moved the boulders around with it. :D



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Post Prod 08-31-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthMarino (Post 5141564)
So part of your little conspiracy theory is that someone got a hold of special features disc, a 1080p copy of the movie superior to the HD broadcast and then added this in as a joke along with a bunch of other changes including new CGI in the Han scene, the corrected arm in the Wampa scene and an Ewok blinking then leaked it through a Chinese torrent uploader who often leaks rips of legit retail discs? And all this was done a few weeks before the actual release to be funny?

Well we have yet to see this audio clip attached to any 1080p video. the actual scene was never leaked. just allegedly an mp3 of the audio, which was put under the DVD version of the film, which is what you see in the clips.

HandyDandy 08-31-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay444 (Post 5141571)
What article on yahoo? The very same one I linked in my post that you commented on (here it is again for you): http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/31082011/...rs-fans-0.html

While they don't post the vids, they tell you where to find them and what the changes are (in a not so flattering manner). See, when reporting ANYTHING, like I dunno, say FOX news does, one doesn't need to qoute or show proof to damage something. The point I am trying to make, is the longer Lucasfilm stays silent, the more damage this can do, ESPECIALLY if it is a hoax and starts to get widly reported. Think: "Obama wasn't born in America."

Today's journalism is not like that of yesteryear. While you may have standards, most of the journalists in the world don't. They report editorials like fact (like some on this site..lol). You can say (as I am): "I won't believe it until I see it." but most aren't like us anymore. "This article says this, and its on all these other sites, it must be true. Not going to buy the set or going to cancel my preorder." This is why Lucas shouldn't be mum and should say SOMETHING.

It's still early hopefully we will hear something before days end...


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