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Miadaskate 09-01-2011 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elliotroad (Post 5144901)
Hey Miadaskate,

I would guess Amazon will update your pre-order date as the release date gets closer. The same issue happened to me when I preordered the LOTR set on Blu. I originally ordered it when the preorder went live and the dates shifted around a little. You should be fine.

elliotroad

Ah okay, thanks buddy! :)

Duffy12 09-01-2011 04:16 AM

Here's another variation of this now infamous Obi-Wan yell and NOOOOOOO scene:


enjoy :)







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nmycon 09-01-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge (Post 5145093)
Star Wars wasn't called "Episode IV" until the 1981 theatrical re-release. The Empire Strikes Back has always been "Episode V", from its first showing in 1980 on...

Yes, but both were called "Episodes" by the time ROTJ came out. So what I said was also correct.

Trust me, I know all the technical stuff too ;)

georgec 09-01-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nmycon (Post 5145081)
"Star Wars" and The Empire Strikes Back were called Episodes IV and V before Return of the Jedi was even released...

Not prevalently is what I mean. Of course the episode numbers were there, but they weren't the "main titles" as they are now. Notice the recent emphasis on "Star Wars Episode _" in all the product marketing? It's meant to convey the "one saga" idea and to put the PT and OT under one umbrella. It goes back to the same reasoning as why Lucas put "Noooo!" in ROTJ - connect the trilogies.

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42041 09-01-2011 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Stlsports (Post 5145095)
Why doesn't that guy just upload the whole e-mail? We're still just going off his word.

Christ, do you want Lucas to personally sign and mail you the letter? It's the New York Times, not some random blog :rolleyes:

powerknowledge 09-01-2011 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by greg_achen (Post 5145037)
It's just been confirmed that the Padme's Ruminations scene in Revenge of the Sith now has a lengthy voiceover by Hayden Christenson during the scene, just in case some of the more "slow" fans were unclear what was going through Anakin's mind while looking at Padme across Coruscant. ;)

Original Scene Without Voice Over:
Padme's Ruminations - YouTube

Oy vey. This was actually one of my favorite small moments from ROTS; showing some real "return to form" maturity from Lucas, in the mode of Dreyer. I'll reserve judgement until I hear the VO, but this in concept bothers me more in its own way than the PT additions, even the "NOOOOOOO!".

Perhaps the closing montage will feature Obi-Wan ruminating ala Morgan Freeman at the end of Se7en: "Master Yoda once said, 'A fine place the galaxy is, and worth fighting for.' I believe in the second part."

Petyr_Baelish 09-01-2011 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5145099)
I'd rather watch Avatar any day of the week. Check out the Riffrax sometime. You'll never see Inception the same way again.

Rifftrax - Inception Sample - YouTube

Dude, you like the phantom menace...

svenge 09-01-2011 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nmycon (Post 5145107)
Yes, but both were called "Episodes" by the time ROTJ came out. So what I said was also correct.

Trust me, I know all the technical stuff too ;)

I was just expanding the explanation for the sake of others. :)

Maggot 09-01-2011 04:20 AM

I think it's due time for the obligatory and perhaps complimentary...........




NOOOOOOOOO!

Stlsports 09-01-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia (Post 5145079)
IMO the race itself is kind of cool, but it just seems like too much of a side distraction that did little to advance the plot in any way, which is kind of a great metaphor for much of what's wrong with the PT.

The whole trangent with the ship being damaged, needing a part, and Anakin racing just seemed like a big side-distraction more than anything. Yes, I know the bet that Qui-Gon made with Watto over the race is how Anakin ended up getting freed, but pretty much anything could have been written in it's place to free Anakin in a much faster manner.

The only other purpose that is sort of served, all be not very well IMO, was as some kind of very, very loose basis for there to be any remote truth in Obi Wan's comment to Luke in ANH about how Anakin was already a "great pilot" when he "first knew him." Which I kind of argue is BS to a certain extent since the pods, while hovering above the ground, are essentially land vehicles and not something that people are going to fly around in the sky, let alone space. But this goes with the many issues that I have with Anakin being so young in Ep 1 in the first place, but I'm not going into that tangent. (On the pilot subject, aside from this scene, the only other scene in the movie that 'establishes' him as a pilot is towards the end when he's in that plane/ship with R2, and half of what happens there is done by auto pilot, and the other half is pretty much him going "Oops" and doing things by accident... not exactly what I would call a "great pilot).

So while the pod race is kind of cool looking and all, it's just a lot of wasted time that could have been better spent on character and plot development, something that the PT IMO often didn't do very well. It's just one of many examples of "style over substance" in which the visuals outweigh the plot/story in the PT.

Lucas did the race simply because he loves cars and racing and that's the only way he could get it on film.

nmycon 09-01-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by svenge (Post 5145118)
I was just expanding the explanation for the sake of others. :)

Gotcha :D

How considerate of you ;)

Beast 09-01-2011 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle (Post 5145117)
Dude, you like the phantom menace...

Yep. Proud of that fact too. I'm sure you like some movies that other people don't.

It's called having different tastes. And it's what makes the world great. :)

Aragorn the Elfstone 09-01-2011 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by greg_achen (Post 5145037)
It's just been confirmed that the Padme's Ruminations scene in Revenge of the Sith now has a lengthy voiceover by Hayden Christenson during the scene, just in case some of the more "slow" fans were unclear what was going through Anakin's mind while looking at Padme across Coruscant. ;)

Original Scene Without Voice Over:
Padme's Ruminations - YouTube

If that's for real, then it's the same thing as Vader's "No". Lucas fails to comprehend what makes a scene great. Both scenes convey so much without the spoken dialogue. Granted, I haven't heard the revised RotS scene - but, honestly, the less HC speaks the better.

georgec 09-01-2011 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle (Post 5145078)
Inception is better than both of those crappy movies, and probably better than star wars.

Avatar is one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Awful writing, awful story, awful everything. Predator is classic, though - a great action/horror/sci-fi hybrid film. Inception is a great as well.

42041 09-01-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn84 (Post 5145137)
If that's for real, then it's the same thing as Vader's "No". Lucas fails to comprehend what makes a scene great. Both scenes convey so much without the spoken dialogue. Granted, I haven't heard the revised RotS scene - but, honestly, the less HC speaks the better.

The prequels have not leaked yet so I doubt anyone knows what changes have been made (if any), I think Greg is joking around ;)

nmycon 09-01-2011 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn84 (Post 5145137)
If that's for real, then it's the same thing as Vader's "No". Lucas fails to comprehend what makes a scene great. Both scenes convey so much without the spoken dialogue. Granted, I haven't heard the revised RotS scene - but, honestly, the less HC speaks the better.

It reminds me of how Ridley Scott added Deckard's voiceover to Blade Runner for American audiences...

Now everyone agrees the narration was just stupid and the film makes enough sense without Deckard explaining everything.

Petyr_Baelish 09-01-2011 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5145135)
Yep. Proud of that fact too. I'm sure you like some movies that other people don't.

It's called having different tastes. And it's what makes the world great. :)

You have to have taste, before you have different tastes.

Aragorn the Elfstone 09-01-2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 42041 (Post 5145141)
The prequels have not leaked yet so I doubt anyone knows what changes have been made (if any), I think Greg is joking around ;)

:bitenails: I honestly just can't tell anymore. If someone told me Lucas was putting Roger Rabbit into the Cantina scene of 'Star Wars', I'd believe them. :(

leem6453 09-01-2011 04:28 AM

Made the UOT Anamorphic!
 
All this hoopla made me want to experiment with the letterbox transfers of the UOT, you know, make them anamorphic. I figured out how to do it. I used AutoGK and converted them to a 1.5GB XVID file. I then plugged my external hard drive into my HDTV and walla...They were anamorphic! Now I can die happy.

Oh, and I'm really on the fence now about the blu-ray set after these insane changes, and I never thought I'd say that about Star Wars.

TheStorm 09-01-2011 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5145099)
I'd rather watch Avatar any day of the week. Check out the Riffrax sometime. You'll never see Inception the same way again.

Rifftrax - Inception Sample - YouTube

I've still watched that, and Inception is still an amazing movie, that most would agree with that, including critics and the masses. PT.....not so much. Yes you have a right to your opinion but to me it seems you are a minority with some of those thoughts.

If you loved those, then maybe you should watch the RiffTrax on Episode I, II, and III....you'll never watch those the same way. Or watch RedLetterMedia's reviews on em, you'll never look at them the same way either.

On topic though I'm pissed as hell about the change in ROTJ, it just boggles my mind.


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