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octagon 09-06-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5169792)
I don't buy that. Considering Luke Skywalker's whiny as hell... especially in ANH.

And doesn't even have the backstory to support it. He just was an ungrateful brat. Owen should have smacked him around. ;)

I dunno...Obi-wan's kids would be pretty strong with the force too...

BladeRunner2007 09-06-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mvckalel (Post 5169715)
I would love to have seen her reaction. I mean, like someone posted before, for those of you who saw ESB in the theatre, you had a long wait to see if it was true or not.

Come to think about it, without the PT, you can still argue the validity of that revelation. ;)

It never even crossed my mind that Vader might be lying. He said "No, I am your father." and I totally believed him. I never had a doubt he was telling the truth. Am I the only one?

Beast 09-06-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SixSpeedSamurai (Post 5169791)
To throw my hat into the rating ring:

1.) ROTJ. Never had a problem with the Ewoks, and I don't undestand all the hate really. Yeah, they are silly, but they are eons better than Jar Jar. I must of seen this 10 times in the theater with my dad, I was 8 in '83.
2.) Star Wars. I was 2 in '77 and this was the first show my folks ever took me to, I don't remember it obviously.
3.) This was tough, but ESB. I know this is the best to many, but over the years, I've come to find this movie kind of drags on to me, I don't know why. My 6 year old loves this movie, it's her favorite SW.
4.) Could of been 3, but RotS. I thought this was on level with the originals. It was crammed and things were rushed for time, but it was great. I still don't buy Anakin's turn, but oh well.
5.) AotC. Parts of this one drag on too, the dialog is bad, the whole "love" story of Anakin and Padme is a disaster.
6.) Phantom Menace. Remove Jar Jar and you still got that kid left! I enjoy most of the scenes with Neeson and McGregor though, and the end Jedi battle is great.

*Fistbumps* Props and a shout out to a fellow Saginaw, MI native. :D

octagon 09-06-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurred (Post 5169793)
I am aswell, i must watch it ASAP....i guess everyone has atleast one "big" movie they haven´t seen.

And regarding how i got it..i made a sweet deal by smoothtalking someone. Got the full set for 30$. But even with that price i dont know how im gonna catch up with all the releases that are coming in sept/oct.

Jurrasic Park and Titanic here.

I hear good things though.

LetoAtreides82 09-06-2011 10:12 PM

Can someone who ordered the complete saga on the USA version of Amazon tell me what it says for the expected delivery date? For me it's saying September 27?? I ordered it on January 6 with prime 2 day shipping. Delivery date should be the 16th but it says the 27th for me?

PeterTHX 09-06-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007 (Post 5169801)
It never even crossed my mind that Vader might be lying. He said "No, I am your father." and I totally believed him. I never had a doubt he was telling the truth. Am I the only one?

I searched my feelings and knew it to be true. ;)

Blu Titan 09-06-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donat96 (Post 5169796)
In the 9/11-9/17 Target ad, the Complete Saga is listed for $79.99.

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You can bet that Amazon will pm and lower their price ;).

Beast 09-06-2011 10:13 PM

I can't really think of any major films that I haven't seen yet. Not any that I really want to.

I haven't seen Thor or Green Lantern yet. But that's only because I missed them in the theaters.

RuttedCatfish 09-06-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donat96 (Post 5169796)
In the 9/11-9/17 Target ad, the Complete Saga is listed for $79.99.

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as someone stated in the deals section Target has a 90 day return policy so it will cover any black friday sales if price goes lower

Beast 09-06-2011 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan (Post 5169822)
You can bet that Amazon will pm and lower their price ;).

Hopefully Best Buy will undercut them even. Survey Says.... $74.99!! :D

Miadaskate 09-06-2011 10:16 PM

Question, and I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but has Lucas ever made changes to the prequels that made it worse, (whereas CGI Yoda is a good change)? If he hasn't I don't see why he wouldn't make changes over the years. He'll never think it's perfect as a whole.

Beast 09-06-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Miadaskate (Post 5169839)
Question, and I'm sorry if this has been discussed before, but has Lucas ever made changes to the prequels that made it worse, (whereas CGI Yoda is a good change)? If he hasn't I don't see why he wouldn't make changes over the years. He'll never think it's perfect as a whole.

He's changed and tweaked the Prequels as well with each release. But most people don't tend to complain about those.

I hope we hear some news soon about what tweaks AotC and RotS recieved for the Blu-Ray release.

From the DVD Release:

[Show spoiler]Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace DVD Release

Sebulba's subtitles during his enraged talk with Anakin originally read, "You won't walk away from this one, Skywalker... you slave scum!" For the DVD, "Skywalker" was removed from the subtitle, since Sebulba does not actually say Anakin's last name in the scene.

Watto's celebratory cry of "Sebulba!" is removed.

The podracing sequence is extended. Such enhancements include a scene with Anakin facing off with Gasgano, Anakin losing one of his engines, only to recover it, and more.

The air taxi sequence is reincorporated.

Orn Free Taa's human aides are replaced by Twi'leks.

Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones DVD Release

Several speeders were removed from a shot during the Bounty Hunter pursuit scene.

New dialogue was added to the scene where Anakin confesses to the Tusken slaughter.

After Padmé falls out of the gunship on Geonosis, a clone trooper asks if she is all right. Her alert response of "Yes" has been changed to a more realistically groggy "Uh-huh."

Anakin's mechanical hand now holds Padmé's hand during the closing wedding sequence (this was originally included in the DLP theatrical release of the film, but not in the 35 mm film version).

During their duel on Kamino, a shot of Jango Fett headbutting Obi-Wan is removed from the UK version of the DVD.

Jedi Coleman Trebor confronts Count Dooku on the lookout balcony during the battle of Geonosis. Trebor is instantly shot dead by Jango Fett. The following shot shows Jango twirling his blaster pistol before slotting it back into his holster. In the theatrical release, this was a solo shot of Jango, but the widescreen version of the DVD has Count Dooku in the foreground, smiling as Jango twirls his pistol.

Moments before Mace Windu decapitates Jango Fett, sparks and a slight puff of smoke from Jango's jetpack can be seen, signifying that his jetpack malfunctioned.

Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith DVD Release

Despite Lucasfilm's official statement that there were absolutely no changes made to the theatrical version of the film, the November 1, 2005 DVD release of Revenge of the Sith had one slight change from the theatrical cut. In the scene where a shot transitions to Anakin crawling up the lava bank, the original theatrical release used a wipe effect from the shot of Obi-Wan and C-3PO in the cockpit of Padmé's ship leaving Mustafar to Anakin's mechanical hand grasping at the volcanic soil, whereas the DVD instead uses a straight cut from the Padmé's ship shot to Anakin.

El_Jay 09-06-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5169792)
I don't buy that. Considering Luke Skywalker's whiny as hell... especially in ANH.

And doesn't even have the backstory to support it. He just was an ungrateful brat. Owen should have smacked him around. ;)

Luke whines about 5 times in ANH, and it seems believable as a teenager who wants to rebel, not an emo who broods and sulks all the time.

Michael Harper 09-06-2011 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mredman (Post 5167709)
The PQ is phenomenal:rock:

I wish they'd fixed Maul's horns. You can tell they're stuck on.

BladeRunner2007 09-06-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SixSpeedSamurai (Post 5169791)
ROTJ. Never had a problem with the Ewoks, and I don't undestand all the hate really. Yeah, they are silly, but they are eons better than Jar Jar.

Totally agree! I don't get the hate for the Ewoks. I actually really like them. But I must say they are the weakest part of ROTJ, yet they are still awesome. It's just that everything else in ROTJ is even more awesome! :rock:

gregmasciola 09-06-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5169792)
I don't buy that. Considering Luke Skywalker's whiny as hell... especially in ANH.

And doesn't even have the backstory to support it. He just was an ungrateful brat. Owen should have smacked him around. ;)

I don't really agree with that. Luke was "whiny" because he'd been trapped there (for his entire life). ;)
I could buy Anakin's whining more if it had anything to do with him being a slave for years, but he sounds more like someone who's worked someplace for a year or two and just complains that they should be the store manager by that time.

topraman517 09-06-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast (Post 5169231)
Face it... the few people legitimately going to boycott this won't do anything to sales. It's a drop in the bucket.

Especially since the vocal individuals who are saying such things are only a very small portion of the fanbase.

And then you have the people who don't know or care one way or another who willl just buy them at retail.

Also you do realize that Netflix doesn't just magically get the discs right? They have to buy multiple copies as well.

There's no legitimate amount of pressure that will speed up a release that he doesn't want to do. That's just a fact.

After all, there has been petitions and complaints since '97. And the market is there for every version of the films. It just doesn't matter.


Please excuse any grammar/spelling errors, as I'm in a bit of a rush. After that, I'm outta this debate, at least until the discs are released.

Okay, so it's a vocal minority. But: unless there's a big marketing campaign (TV/magazine ads, etc.) for the Blu-Rays, the people who want to see Star Wars on Blu-Ray are also a minority. The Blu-Ray format itself has yet to catch on with mainstream America. And seeing as most people just see SW as fun popcorn movies, I don't think the average movie viewer is going to rush out to replace their perfectly serviceable DVD copies. That means that the vocal minority of Special Edition haters could actually be a large portion of the minority that is interested in Star Wars on Blu-Ray.

These are expensive sets we're talking about, not some bargain-bin discs that people are just going casually pick up on a whim. Furthermore, these are old movies, so the type of people who just buy the latest stuff simply because they have the money to do so aren't likely to buy the SW BRs.

Netflix buys multiple copies, but it's not 1:1. That is, it's not "one copy for every person who is currently requesting this movie;" it's more like an algorithm for buying the least number of copies, while minimizing the time that people have to wait to get their disc. If a movie is currently in unusually high demand, such as a brand new film, Netflix won't bother to buy enough copies to satisfy everyone, since they know that the demand will normalize, and they don't want to be left with a bunch of extra copies. For example, there is currently a "Long Wait" for the original Planet of the Apes, due to the success of the prequel, but I really doubt that Netflix is going to alleviate the wait by buying more copies. They know that interest in the film will return to normal in a month or two.

"There's no legitimate amount of pressure that will speed up a release that he doesn't want to do. That's just a fact"

Only Lucas knows whether the above statement is true. Unless you're Lucas, it's not a fact. In any case, you're probably right that a semi-boycott is pointless, but it's worth a shot. I just wanted people to know that there is another option for viewing Star Wars on Blu-Ray, in HD, without having to actually buy it. Some are under the impression that Netflix doesn't carry Blu-Rays, or, like other subscriptions, that it's a pain to create/cancel a Netflix subscription, but it's easy as pie.

Aragorn the Elfstone 09-06-2011 10:24 PM

Love, love, love new CG Yoda in Episode I. That alone makes the purchase of the prequels worth it for me. Lucasfilm definitely screwed up with the transfer (this should have been a beautiful filmic transfer with natural film grain), but it's not the like the DVD is a beauty. This'll give a better viewing experience, and if they ever do it over again I'll double dip. But I don't see that happening if Lucas wants this movie to have a digital look.

frogmort 09-06-2011 10:26 PM

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Thanks for that. I cropped, sharpened, and added text to it, if anybody wants it:

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C A Iversen 09-06-2011 10:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWqh_...ature=youtu.be

Does anyone else find the last part of this You Tube parody a little weird?


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