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crowkiller06 08-01-2012 12:11 PM

confirmation
 
Well, i figured he was full off shit anyways. But, it's good to finally get a solid answer.
Thanks a bunch guys.

NYorker 08-01-2012 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX (Post 6261648)
So much for the theory that the death of the original author makes the originals available. Pesky facts! Always getting in the way of good old fashioned irrational hate. :D

Where is the passionate hate for Tolkien? Or Peter Jackson and his crew for changing them even further? Funny how Jackson can insert certain details, characters, eliminate things, and yet the films are still "true to the books". Lucas tweaks things here and there and suddenly it's a completely different film!

These are big apples and oranges.

The changes PJ made were (mostly) due to book-to-film transition. You really thought going to LOTR you'd be getting an exact copy of the book...? You have 2 DVD editions: theatrical, and extended. He didn't add needless effects, he didn't force any musical numbers (and now...the king of the dead tap dance!) down our throat, or add a "no" in the third film just because someone said "no" in the first film!

Then you have GL. You have a perfectly fine trilogy for thirty - that's 30 - years. All of a sudden it's not good enough. He changes 'who shot first.' He adds a musical number, which of course we all found missing. Han steps on Jabba's tail. He puts R2 behind a rock to...? gives strange vocal abilities to Ben Kenobi and of course, the creme de la creme - Vader's "D'oooooh!"

Matt S 08-01-2012 01:10 PM

Anyone hear of the Revisited Fan edition? Once you play that one (assuming you own a legit copy to start for legal reasons, which 99.9% do), its impossible to go back to any Special Edition version.

If you haven't its on FB

supercutz 08-02-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX (Post 6261648)
So much for the theory that the death of the original author makes the originals available. Pesky facts! Always getting in the way of good old fashioned irrational hate. :D

Where is the passionate hate for Tolkien? Or Peter Jackson and his crew for changing them even further? Funny how Jackson can insert certain details, characters, eliminate things, and yet the films are still "true to the books". Lucas tweaks things here and there and suddenly it's a completely different film!

1. NYorker's sums up my thoughts on the matter.
2. No one is "hating" Tolkien or Jackson because the changes aren't nearly as invasive and arguably as insulting than those that exist in the SW SEs (and continue to change for the worse).
3. I am not afraid of change and actually liked some of what was done in the OT. I only argue that the classic versions be made available at some point for the fans that grew up with the movies in their original form.
4. I just realized I'm responding to a suspended member :(
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Originally Posted by Matt S (Post 6262595)
Anyone hear of the Revisited Fan edition? Once you play that one (assuming you own a legit copy to start for legal reasons, which 99.9% do), its impossible to go back to any Special Edition version.

If you haven't its on FB

I've seen Ep4 and it is a damn good job overall. I'm definitely looking forward to Ep5: Revisited.

stvn1974 08-02-2012 12:50 AM

Blade Runner The Final Cut = My favorite movie of all time.

What George Lucas has done to Star Wars is the exact opposite as what was done to Blade Runner.

spanky87 08-02-2012 01:10 AM

George Lucas seems to be okay with milking the franchise except for making episodes 7-9. But, since we have all of the original cast (except Alec Guiness) still alive, why not do a DC animated thing. Like have the original cast do a direct to video animated films that adapt some of the fan favorite novels like the Thrawn Trilogy. I think it's a wasted opportunity to not do anything like this. They could even do old republic movies, and not have to worry about the budget/box office.

Joeinar 08-02-2012 04:27 AM

if Lucas does give us the originals as they were released then that means giving us Star Wars, not Star Wars a New Hope, the most idiotic of the subtitles.

I don't want episode 4. just Star Wars, the great movie going experience of all time.

and while we're wishing for the impossible how about Paramount giving us Star Trek the Wrath of Khan with out the numbers the way it was initially released.

JamesKurtovich 08-02-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Roonan (Post 6262008)
For you, maybe. I don't agree with all of them, but that's as far as it goes. But how is a change lazy? The fact that it's a change implies care and work, therefore not lazy.

Best example I can come up with is Anakin at the end of RotJ. It's stock footage from RotS and comes off awkward because his actions don't fit with the scene. Not to mention that a young Anakin's presence doesn't make any sense, especially to Luke who likely has no idea who he is.

Lantz 08-02-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich (Post 6266751)
Best example I can come up with is Anakin at the end of RotJ. It's stock footage from RotS and comes off awkward because his actions don't fit with the scene. Not to mention that a young Anakin's presence doesn't make any sense, especially to Luke who likely has no idea who he is.

Wasn't Anakin's youth in that scene explained by the theory that only the proponents of the good side become force ghosts? Meaning: Anakin is in the same state he was in just before he turned evil and became Darth Vader.

KubrickFan 08-02-2012 10:46 AM

Oh, goody, this discussion again.

NYorker 08-02-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Roonan (Post 6262008)
Who are you to decide if the reasons behind the changes are right or wrong? For Lucas, his changes were made for the right reasons. But are you really saying that it was all a marketing ploy? Really?



For you, maybe. I don't agree with all of them, but that's as far as it goes. But how is a change lazy? The fact that it's a change implies care and work, therefore not lazy.

Show me one recent change GL made to Star Wars that implies "care and work..."

Lantz 08-02-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NYorker (Post 6266866)
Show me one recent change GL made to Star Wars that implies "care and work..."

I think the digitized Yoda in the Episode I bluray improved things considerably.

NYorker 08-02-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantz (Post 6266885)
I think the digitized Yoda in the Episode I bluray improved things considerably.

Apology, owe you I may... ;)

I forgot about that one. I didn't get a chance to see it, though, and probably won't, in the foreseeable future.

Lantz 08-02-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NYorker (Post 6267075)
Apology, owe you I may... ;)

I forgot about that one. I didn't get a chance to see it, though, and probably won't, in the foreseeable future.

... other than that, I cannot think of anything else, off-hand. ;-)

Uxi 08-02-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041 (Post 6261549)
its only a movie, no need to bring opressive authoritarian regimes into this :eek:

Hey, there are raped childhoods here! :p

Uxi 08-02-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NYorker (Post 6258204)
Well, he got a big "noooo" from my wallet (not that he'd care, eh?)

He got plenty of others, so I'd guess not. ;)

IndyMLVC 08-02-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantz (Post 6266885)
I think the digitized Yoda in the Episode I bluray improved things considerably.

NOTHING can improve TPM other than burning the negative.

Ryan0503 08-02-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC (Post 6268288)
NOTHING can improve TPM other than burning the negative.

I actually like TPM ...

BladeRunner2007 08-02-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan0503 (Post 6268320)
I actually like TPM ...

Me, too. :)

kenkraly2004 08-02-2012 06:52 PM

I do like Episode 1 TPM . TPM is not that bad of a movie everyone says it is. Sure it has it's faults but it's still a enjoyable star wars film.


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