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P@t_Mtl 08-21-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EclipseSSD (Post 6351672)
I still have my VHS collection :rock: :D

So do I, I like collecting Star Wars stuff (toys, books...) so I kept my old VHS

motorheadache95 08-22-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by UntilTheyFall (Post 6351574)
Hmmm, I can get the OT first laserdisc releases for about $50 altogether, but if the video quality is quite better on the 'faces' versions perhaps I should save my money and track those ones down individually?

Any input folks?

I would go for the "Faces" addition. Apparently those older '89 editions were taken from earlier Japanese laserdisc transfers and at least the original movie has some aspect-ratio problems.

Plus you can watch those great interviews with Lucas on the "Faces" set, where he considers maybe directing the first Star Wars prequel himself to setup the other directors who tackle the other two :p

Mavrick 08-22-2012 01:14 AM

Really good extras.


mayday72 08-22-2012 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EclipseSSD (Post 6351672)
I still have my VHS collection :rock: :D

Me too lol! They are the only tapes I've kept.

stvn1974 08-22-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by EclipseSSD (Post 6351672)
I still have my VHS collection :rock: :D

I actually watched my copies the other day. I will take blurry Han shooting first over HD Han ducking out of the way always.

aiman04 08-22-2012 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 6352453)
I actually watched my copies the other day. I will take blurry Han shooting first over HD Han ducking out of the way always.

If only everyone else would be like you, we shall have peace in this thread. :p

The_Donster 08-22-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mayday72 (Post 6352444)
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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl (Post 6351679)
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Originally Posted by EclipseSSD (Post 6351672)
I still have my VHS collection :rock: :D

So do I, I like collecting Star Wars stuff (toys, books...) so I kept my old VHS

Me too lol! They are the only tapes I've kept.

I'm pretty sure my wife does too. I seem to remember running across these when I was cleaning up. Now I just need to remember where they are, since my vhs/dvd combo is still working fine :p

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Originally Posted by stvn1974 (Post 6352453)
I actually watched my copies the other day. I will take blurry Han shooting first over HD Han ducking out of the way always.

This is kind of me, to an extent. Of all of the changes, this is the only one that really bugs me. I'm going to watch the SE DVD tonight and then watch the BD(Via Netflix), once my wife finishes watching Clash of the Titans. Reading all this back and forth, I have to wonder how many of those pissing and moaning are actually old enough to have seen trilogy in the beginning?

bytor 08-22-2012 07:10 AM

Even though they have Han shooting first, it doesn't really change anything in the scene except for the aesthetics. Han still intended to preemptively kill Greedo.

The two shots are so close together that for all intents and purposes, they both shot at the same time. He certainly didn't fire in reaction to Greedo's shot. Han's reaction time is probably fast, but not that fast.

Troy73 08-22-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bytor (Post 6353327)
Even though they have Han shooting first, it doesn't really change anything in the scene except for the aesthetics. Han still intended to preemptively kill Greedo.

The two shots are so close together that for all intents and purposes, they both shot at the same time. He certainly didn't fire in reaction to Greedo's shot. Han's reaction time is probably fast, but not that fast.

I think to some level Greedo was a stalker and Han said no one to many times. Sometimes when a stalker can't have what he/she desires they want to make sure no one else can either. Han had no choice and had to shoot Greedo. It's always sad when relationships end on a sour note.

Monolithium 08-22-2012 07:43 AM

By changing that scene, Lucas actually made Solo worse.

In the pre-1997 version, Han shoots before Greedo ever fires a shot. Now while some people think this makes Han a "cold-blooded killer", it really made him out to be a man capable of outsmarting what could've been the Galaxy's most dangerous Assassin. But in the post-1997 version, Greedo shoots first and misses. Then Han, who clearly is in no danger of death because Poor Greedo can't hit anything at point blank range, murders him.

Troy73 08-22-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Monolithium (Post 6353383)
By changing that scene, Lucas actually made Solo worse.

In the pre-1997 version, Han shoots before Greedo ever fires a shot. Now while some people think this makes Han a "cold-blooded killer", it really made him out to be a man capable of outsmarting what could've been the Galaxy's most dangerous Assassin. But in the post-1997 version, Greedo shoots first and misses. Then Han, who clearly is in no danger of death because Poor Greedo can't hit anything at point blank range, murders him.

So he's supposed to sit there and let him keep trying?

bytor 08-22-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Monolithium (Post 6353383)
Then Han, who clearly is in no danger of death because Poor Greedo can't hit anything at point blank range, murders him.

Han had no time to react to Greedo's shot. I think you're forgetting how close the two shots were. Han had already decided to fire before he was even aware that Greedo was shooting.

budious 08-22-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bytor (Post 6353468)
Han had no time to react to Greedo's shot. I think you're forgetting how close the two shots were. Han had already decided to fire before he was even aware that Greedo was shooting.

But it's stupid to have one person sitting that close who should be more than capable of hitting his target but instead misses. The scene was originally intended for him to never fire and should have stayed that way.

Monolithium 08-22-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy73 (Post 6353402)
So he's supposed to sit there and let him keep trying?

Greedo already proved he couldn't hit him. Han could've gotten up and left poor Greedo to shoot at the wall to his heart's content.

aiman04 08-22-2012 02:02 PM

Obi-Wan, who has been watching them from the bar, actually used the force to have Greedo miss Han. By natural reflect action Han shoots Greedo. That works for me, I don't want to overthink it I'm sure I'll find a flaw to my theory and ruins it again.

aiman04 08-22-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by budious (Post 6354305)
Except he had already left the bar to sell the speeder with Luke to raise the cash for the trip.

I know, that's my twist to the story. Obi-Wan senses that Han could've been killed, knowing how important he is in the future he went back. Silly I know, it's all in my mind. :)

Falaskan 08-22-2012 06:04 PM

Doesn't celebration start today, and they're going to announce some "big" news about Star Wars?

The_Donster 08-22-2012 06:21 PM

Starts tomorrow according to the website.

JamesKurtovich 08-22-2012 06:24 PM

I wish I could go to one of those things. I hate living in the boonies.

Ryan0503 08-22-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan (Post 6355288)
Doesn't celebration start today, and they're going to announce some "big" news about Star Wars?

Starts Thursday ... I got my tickets!!!


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