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P@t_Mtl 06-02-2010 09:13 AM

The Special Edition DVD set I have look great IMO. The first 2 prequels look meh IMO but Revenge look's very good.

Al_The_Strange 06-02-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmford (Post 3335137)
We all know the prequil Trilogy will look much more crisp and new, while the original triligy will look gritty, grainy and a bit les sharp...

But I hold firm that that's okay, they aren't meant to look the same... as long a sLucas keeps each of them true to their time, then :rock:

I think that would be perfectly fitting. The PT was a prosperous and pristine era in the saga, so it should look slick and new. The OT is an oppressed era and should be rougher with grit and grain.

serpheus 06-02-2010 09:50 AM

Q. How many Blu-ray.com members does it take to change a lightbulb?
A. 100, 1 to change it and the other 99 to run off to start their own Star Wars thread.

DMC86X 06-02-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by duckland23 (Post 3333850)
I am wondering will this blu-ray set come out to this year ? .. I seen on the internet that there working on this as we speak right now . But was back on april 19 , 2010 . I didn't see anymore info on the set . its listed on amazon.com , but thats it . No further info is available on it , it don't tell you the release date or anything else . I also would not mind to see in DTS format instead on dolby digital for once . After all I think DTS sound way better than dolby Digital anyway .

wow

Bluyoda 06-02-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl (Post 3335151)
The Special Edition DVD set I have look great IMO. The first 2 prequels look meh IMO but Revenge look's very good.

What on earth could possibly be wrong with the look of AOTC?? :confused::eek::confused:

I think it looks pretty perfect for a DVD.

Please enlighten me with your infinite wisdom! :D

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Originally Posted by Al_The_Strange (Post 3335158)
I think that would be perfectly fitting. The PT was a prosperous and pristine era in the saga, so it should look slick and new. The OT is an oppressed era and should be rougher with grit and grain.

Yeah, makes sense, but I don't need the gritty look, as the set design and costumes tell us that already, so I would still prefer popping colors and ture blacks etc.. ;)

Mahatma 06-02-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bpmford (Post 3335137)
We all know the prequil Trilogy will look much more crisp and new, while the original triligy will look gritty, grainy and a bit les sharp...

But I hold firm that that's okay, they aren't meant to look the same... as long a sLucas keeps each of them true to their time, then :rock:

I'm not so sure.Saw the rewamped OT in cinemas in the 90's and they looked damned good to me.

MarekM 06-02-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahatma (Post 3335604)
I'm not so sure.Saw the rewamped OT in cinemas in the 90's and they looked damned good to me.

+1 they were very very good

Marek

KubrickFan 06-02-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluyoda (Post 3335131)
The purists will never ever be satisfied! Never! :rolleyes:

Sure we will. If he just gave us the originals in their original state, then I would be happy, and many with me. How can Lucas claim the SE's are what his vision was, when the DVDs were different from those versions?

P@t_Mtl 06-02-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluyoda (Post 3335581)
What on earth could possibly be wrong with the look of AOTC?? :confused::eek::confused:

I think it looks pretty perfect for a DVD.

Please enlighten me with your infinite wisdom! :D

I find both Phantom & Attack to be off in PQ. They almost seem at time to be just a slight edge over a VHS. They just don't look very sharp IMO

Chiyo_chichi 06-02-2010 04:00 PM

I wonder if George will make any other big adjustments for this release. I remember hearing he was going to do small stuff like blue-ify the white lightsaber when Luke trains on the Falcon.

ZoetMB 06-02-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize (Post 3325702)
So? The DVDs are still compressed. They could, and should, do them justice were they to issue these on BD.



... *sigh* again, the case in point was that surround sound existed before he was in diapers and Star Wars offered it and not just mere 2 channels.

Yes, but mono surround sound. Stereo surround did not happen until some test footage on Superman and then officially for 70mm prints of Apocalypse Now. In 35mm, it didn't happen until the introduction of DTS and Dolby Digital.

So sure, you could start from those 6-track mixes (which were actually no different than the 4-track raw mixes for Dolby Optical 35mm, except that low frequencies were sent to channels 2 and 4 for the "baby booms"), but you'd still have to remix if you wanted the stereo surround, which is important for localization of fly-overs and the like.

Even the old Todd-AO (and other similar) format 70mm releases like Sound of Music, West Side Story, Oklahoma, etc. were all mono surround as was the earlier 35mm magnetic Cinemascope.

aox 06-02-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 3336050)
Sure we will. If he just gave us the originals in their original state, then I would be happy, and many with me.

He did in 2004. He didn't even touch them. He just put them out the way they were. The purists cried even more.

Duffy12 06-02-2010 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by aox (Post 3336388)
He did in 2004. He didn't even touch them. He just put them out the way they were. The purists cried even more.


Have you never heard of anamorphic??????? :rolleyes:


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PeterTHX 06-02-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12 (Post 3336412)
Have you never heard of anamorphic??????? :rolleyes:

Anamorphic would have required complete a new transfer.

aox 06-02-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12 (Post 3336412)
Have you never heard of anamorphic??????? :rolleyes:


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so, the purists don't want the originals. I see. Lucas gave you guys what you wanted. He didn't know he was supposed to tweak the sound and audio on 30 year old films for 21st century specifications.

Duffy12 06-02-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX (Post 3336424)
Anamorphic would have required complete a new transfer.


Riiiiiiiiight.


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Duffy12 06-02-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aox (Post 3336442)
so, the purists don't want the originals. I see. Lucas gave you guys what you wanted. He didn't know he was supposed to tweak the sound and audio on 30 year old films for 21st century specifications.


And don't forget the HD TVs.


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PeterTHX 06-02-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12 (Post 3336452)
Riiiiiiiiight.

Well, shows what you know about video and transfers (as if we need more evidence). :rolleyes:

Anamorphic DVDs are converted from 16x9 video masters, usually transferred in HD and downconverted to 480i.

The *original* (non-SE) Star Wars Trilogy did not have 16x9 masters. The last time it was transferred to NTSC digital masters at 4x3 in 1993 for LaserDisc. And it was from those the DVD "extras" were mastered. The next time the movies were transferred it was the Special Edition versions.

Getting the picture (so to speak) yet?

KubrickFan 06-02-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX (Post 3336545)
Well, shows what you know about video and transfers (as if we need more evidence). :rolleyes:

Anamorphic DVDs are converted from 16x9 video masters, usually transferred in HD and downconverted to 480i.

The *original* (non-SE) Star Wars Trilogy did not have 16x9 masters. The last time it was transferred to NTSC digital masters at 4x3 in 1993 for LaserDisc. And it was from those the DVD "extras" were mastered. The next time the movies were transferred it was the Special Edition versions.

Getting the picture (so to speak) yet?

This is just nitpicking, honestly. You know what I meant by that. Scanning in the film itself is standard practice, using a decade old master used for Laserdisc, of all things, isn't. I think he just chose the worst versions available just to prove his point. Unless you believe the originals are really gone :rolleyes:.

dcowboy7 06-02-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 3336594)
This is just nitpicking, honestly.

Honestly, who throws a shoe ?


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