Oh dear lord! Don't mention Ep.7-9 it's bad enough with all the arguing over 1-6 as it is...

lol. 4 trilogies might've been quite something. Still, Star Wars is Star Wars, there's always gonna be arguments over something.

How is he a billion times cooler? Why because he got more "action" screen time? Boba was 100 times cooler and he didnt even have to do anthing..why? Because we never saw his face!!!! Less is more...less is more.

Old news...Lucas himself said all the way through the 80's that there were 12 chapters and the only two characters to be in all 12 were the driods. In the last film it would be them telling the story through thier eyes. Of course Lucas has lied, flip flopped his way though the last 3 decades.

I know it's old news. 30+year old news. I still think the other trilogies may have been interesting, but I'm happy with what we have.

It was 9 back then

Not according to this article. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...915986,00.html. "Star Wars Corp. will make Star Wars II and the ten, count 'em, ten other planned sequels"

there is an article somewhere by Lawrence Kasdan that explains what the basic plots of the movies. apparently he left the movies because Lucas wanted to tie things up in Jedi instead of making more of them. the original ideas wouldn't be possible now since Jedi screwed things up. Maybe they need to go the DC route and do animated films to further the saga?

As for the whole Anakin/Darth Vader thing, don't buy it. if he turned his back on being Anakin, why would he try and turn Luke in Empire instead of killing him? if he was truly just Vader, Luke would have been billed in Empire and the shuttle would never have been allowed to land on Endor in Jedi. he may not have been restricted by his Jedi training anymore but it doesn't mean he rejected them totally. Anakin was still there, he just didn't let him out too often and not in obvious ways.

ah, weren't they optimistic

One article to rule them all


That's next year's version

it was 3 before and three after the current

Yeah. No way 12 films were really gonna be made. It's a bit much.

I saw the new sw magazine in B&N last nite.

No mention at all of the blus.

You're buying into the retroactive history that Lucas created. It's flat-out not true.

Lucas did NOT plan out some grand saga about Vader's redemption years in advance. As late as 1979, Vader and Anakin were still two separate characters. This is a fantastic read, for anyone interested in how the story actually developed:
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History.../dp/0978465237

Cool, I will check that book out. I'm a hugh SW fan, but was severely dissapointed by Lucas going back in time to make us feel better about Anakin.
We had great characters already established, and there was so many ways to have moved forward...:confused:

It's the same thing as why I didn't like that they tied in Chewbacca, and Boba Fett....less is more, it's good to leave some stuff to our imaginations. It's just personal preference that I know probably some people disagree with. Some prefer to see what Chewbacca did earlier in life. I think it's silly that he was a decorated soldier and then becomes Han Solo's side kick.

A completely different topic - but just curious - does anyone have any doubt that GL always intended Darth Vader to be Luke's father when ANH was made? I know Vader means father so that supports that it was planned all along. But then there's Obi Wan explaining that Vader killed Luke's father and then him backtracking later in the OT. I wonder if they just came up with that idea in between ANH and ESB.

Yes.


Obi-Wan: "I have something here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn't allow it. He feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade like your father did."


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I think one of the earlier EU books told a version of Han's backstory with Chewie. Apparently, Han was once an Imperial soldier, who saved Chewie from being shot by his superiors. Because of that, he was thrown out of the military, and Chewie pledged a "life debt" to Han for his aid. This could also explain why Han knows about various Empire procedures, and his decision to work as a smuggler.

Hmmm Han Solo as a former imperial soldier - that's kind of cool. Although would he have sounded so akward and uncomfortable on the radio in his famous "weapon malfunction" scene if that were the case? That's one of my favourite scenes where he ends up blasting the radio.

“Uh, uh… negative, negative. We have a reactor leak here now. Give us a few minutes to lock it down. Large leak, verrry dangerous.“


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