They're arguing over these lines:

"For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic" - Obi-Wan to Luke in A New Hope.

"I will not allow this Republic, which has stood for a thousand years, be split in two" - Chancellor Palpatine to Padme and the Jedi in his office in Attack of the Clones.

So they're basically taking Lucas to task over something Palpatine said.

Granted Lucas wrote both lines but there's 2 different people saying this here. If it had been Obi-Wan who turned around and said "A thousand years" then I'd see some of the fuss. Palpatine is a politician making a dramatic statement for his audience, none of which is about to stop and correct him. Not to get political here but when President Obama told the press that he had campaigned in 57 states plus one to go nobody corrected him to his face (he meant 47).

Well Lucas wrote what Palpatine said, so there! :p

Seriously though, of all the filmmaking and storytelling problems of the prequels to discuss, this minor continuity discrepancy shouldn't even be a microscopic blip on the radar. That's like being on the Titanic while it's sinking and complaining that the toilet in your room is backed up.

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Agreed.

Well, this is my first time posting in this thread, so let me just say something that hopefully hasn't been said too much. WHERE'S THE ORIGINAL VERSIONS OF THE TRILOGY ON BLU-RAY?!?!

;)

Um...this one does.

My very favorite so far-


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And this would be my 2nd-


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What's all the problem with the generations/years thing? They each refer to a different thing, one the Jedi the other the Republic... You know they're not the same thing right?

Was there one thing in the entire orignal trilogy that Obi Wan said to Luke that was actually true?

Use the Force Luke!

"Most of the best freighter pilots can be found here. Only watch your step. This place can be a little rough."

Haven't posted on this thread, theres is over 2000 pages, which I haven't read through, to see if this has been asked before..

I have held of buying this, thinking this can't be it. There must be a release round the corner which is either a) A big tin box set thing with collectables, a la Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, Indy. Or, b) Set includes original cuts.

Going by the VHS and DVDs releases, there were loads of reissues. New covers, new cuts, tin box set, etc.

I just can't believe this set would be the only release, going by Luca$ squeezing money out of fans for years.

And it is just to big and popular a franchise to settle on one?

So any news on a near future reissue of Star Wars?

The 3D verisions of the films would probably be the next release if there is going to be one. But that is several years out, so honestly, you might as well just get this one if it drops to a reasonable price.

Speaking of 3D as there been actual news that Attack Of The Clones will be in 3D for theaters in 2013?

They've changed the merchandising package from Darth Maul to Yoda in preparation for the release of Attack of the Clones. I believe we can expect to hear more about it in Celebration VI.

I wonder if Lucas can be bothered to fix the color of Luke's lightsaber In A New Hope when he gets around to releasing it it 3D? He changes things that need to be left alone yet he has had 4 chances to make it blue.

Out of all the Box Office releases I have on bluray, this one will always be devoid of my shelf space until George changes his mind. Until then, I will avoid this purchase (no matter what the price or how low it goes) until we see, what most people want to see, THE ORIGINAL VERSIONS OF THE TRILOGY. If I need a Star Wars fix, I have no choice but to head to YouTube, and enjoy the full unaltered/tinkered flick, that should have otherwise been released by now. O well, I'll wait, and I'll wait...even if it never comes, George is not getting $1 for Star wars from me.

I second this comment. I bought the DVDs 6 years ago, which I was disappointed. I have not bought anything Star Wars since then.

I'd love to see a revisionist sequel (although it would be totally inconsistent with the expanded universe) that demonstrates in retrospect that the Jedi were completely misguided and incompetent. The film could be about a much older Luke's emotional trauma over this realization as perhaps he discovers the history as told in the prequels. Maybe the older Luke gives up being a Jedi because of this, but his son/daughter (or grandchildren) rediscover the myth of the Jedi and want to become one.

Or...Luke post Episode VI is not trusted when it becomes general knowledge that Vader was his father. He's tried for war crimes and has to prove his innocence. And maybe he discovers in the end that Vader was not his father after all...that Padame in her distress had an affair with another Jedi who we didn't know about and who was killed in the Jedi slaughter in Episode III.

Or...the man who Luke confronted at the end of Episode VI turns out not to have been Darth Vader, but a semi-mechanical clone with major imperfections. Which is why he seems to have no memory of anything that happened to him in Episodes I to III, other than knowing who Obi Wan Kenobi is (yet showing no emotion when he meets him, even though Kenobi destroyed his physical body 20 years before.):D

Please for the love of god, remove this post! I don't want GL to see this and rewrite Star Wars history again :ohnoes:

Agree with that..very frustrating.

"sending to George Lucas's inbox right now..."

I bought the original trilogy DVD set, day one. Then a couple of years later (I Think?) I bought single releases as a 2 disc limited edition which had the remastered (same as the set I had bought) and disc 2 was the untouched version..

Or did I understand that wrong?

This is the sort of thing I'd like on Blu, with original poster art for each :rock:

For my money the single biggest missed opportunity in the prequels wasn't too far from this.

Instead of the silly and superficial 'Anakin turned to save Padme' storyline they could have put him in a real box and forced him to make a real choice between two competing ideologies.

They came close with his conversations with Padme (and you sound like a separatist) and Palpatine (the Jedi only want to preserve their own power) but it was largely too little, too late.

To be fair, they had a lot of audiences to play to (including kids which isn't a bad thing) so it would have been tricky to go that route without making the whole thing some 'West Wing in Space' political debate but there was so much potential there it's hard not to wonder about what could have been.

That's what the prequels are for ;)

Same here.

Only in America could you get book recommendations on a Blu-Ray forum. :D Thanks guys. Will check it out. :)

Splinter of the Mind's Eye was good, if a little bit ...

i picked up a copy of the original trilogy today. i wouldnt consider myself to be a huge star wars fan but every few years i get the itch to watch either some star wars. i know there is a lot of debate about george lucas and what hes done to these movies but im looking forward to watching some star wars tonight. i wanted to buy the whole saga box set but i have a hard time plopping down darn near 100 smackaroos on blu rays. heck i debate withmyself long and hard about making a 40 dollar purchase. from everything ive heard the PQ and AQ (regardless of changes made) on the original trilogy is amazing and im sure ill find out soon enough. but what i really want to know is the PQ and AQ really not so great on the PT? im sure its in this thread somewhere but digging through this thing is like looking for that needle in the haystack

The PT is somewhat a mixed bag. TPM is the worst of the bunch (IMO). There is some obvious DNR going and in some shots definition is lacking/waxy looking. Very soft and lacking some fine detail, then moments later there is a strong image with none of the before listed problems. So, its mixed. Def the worst of all 6 movies.

ATOC and ROTS have exceptional transfers though. ROTS especially. If you can find this set onsale it is very much worth it. Just remember TPM isn't the strongest PQ and not representative of the other two films in the set if you start watching that one first.

In short.

PQ wise ROTS is the best, followed by ROTJ, ESB, ANH, AOTC and finally TPM.

The original trilogy could have used a new 4K master but looks good. Attack of the Clones has a slight teal shift and is a bit soft due to the camera used (an early digital HD camera). The Phantom Menace has had DNR applied, which has removed detail (though it varies throughout the movie). Still, since the original TPM DVD was so bad it has improved the most of all 6 movies from DVD to Blu ray.

Audio wise, they are all as good as they can sound (and the PT has the edge here, simply due to the improvements in audio technology from 1983 tot 1999). Personally I think all 6 are simply brilliant and the clear highlights in terms of AQ in my collection.

RotJ is the worst of the OT as far as PQ goes.

I think A New Hope is the worst looking one.

Yeah, of them all, you can tell it's the oldest looking (not just from a production value standpoint).

Both the original trilogy and the prequels look good on blu-ray with ROTS being the best transfer. Sure the original trilogy is not going to look it's best because the films are close to 35 years old with ANH being the oldest. You can't expect perfection with every transfer in the set yes their are flaws in the transfers in the OT and TPM transfers but not as bad at some have pointed out.

I also enjoyed the novels of The Courtship of Princess Leia and The Jedi Academy Trilogy.

I had the same gripe about the alien bully's blood not being digitally removed from the Catina Bar. The heat of the lightsaber by all means would cauterize the wound!

The colors are STILL out of wack from the first SE days, not to mention the contrast issues they have.

Most older BD films don't seem to have this problem.

Correct. With George at the helm overseeing things you sure got that right.

Hopefully in a few years Criterion get their hands on A New Hope at least and give it the attention that it deserves.

Duffy12 , I'm not bothered by the color issues why it bothers some fans I can't understand but you have to understand director's change the color of their films GL is not the 1st to do this. It is what it is.

well, i hadn't seen any of these since vhs days so they all look amazing to me. ignorance is bliss. i think i have watched most of this set about 5 times. even with some of the ridiculous changes i love these movies.

oh great, Ken's back to give us more of his extraordinary redundant views on the Star Wars Blu-Rays, including extremely obvious information like which movie is the oldest in the series. Thank goodness! I'm not sure what we would do without that! :rofl:

Dynamo of Eternia if you don't like my views on the blu-rays that's fine but please don't stay they are redundant because they are not.