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Beefbowl 02-10-2011 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jsteinhauer (Post 4368476)
Turn off autosave and you will be fine.
Or take a break inbetween missions :p

Denoku 02-10-2011 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4367212)
Looks like i might finish my vanguard before you finish your adept :D
You probably could. I want to go through and do all the loyalty missions before I go to get the IFF. Probably explore some more as well.

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Originally Posted by merrick97 (Post 4367737)
Well I have finished my 3rd playthrough of this game in less than a month. I think I need a break.

I would rather talk about Mass Effect 3.

I am curious does anyone think that this is now the best game on the PS3?

I think its better than Uncharted 2 by a little bit.

IMO, the 360 lost FAR AND away its best exclusive franchise.
I do think this is the best game on PS3. I like Uncharted but I don't think it's the greatest thing on the PS3. It's just right for the masses and a lot of people think it's the best game ever but there are plenty of other games I like more. This will be the best until Mass Effect 3.

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4368886)
You probably could. I want to go through and do all the loyalty missions before I go to get the IFF. Probably explore some more as well.



I do think this is the best game on PS3. I like Uncharted but I don't think it's the greatest thing on the PS3. It's just right for the masses and a lot of people think it's the best game ever but there are plenty of other games I like more. This will be the best until Mass Effect 3.
[Show spoiler] I think I'm going to go get Legion and then go do Tali's Loyalty mission and see what happens. :D


Just imagine how more awesome ME2 would have been if you had the chance to play ME1 first. :p

This is in Dragon Age 2 so more than likely it will be in ME3.

"The original dialogue system will be replaced by the "wheel" system previously seen in the Mass Effect series. Unlike its original version, however, the "wheel" will now clearly indicate what tone the main character's response will have(such as anger and flirting)."

I'm actually interested in the next installment of the ME world. I would love to play as an Asari. I would become a Justicar. :D

Denoku 02-10-2011 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368902)
[Show spoiler] I think I'm going to go get Legion and then go do Tali's Loyalty mission and see what happens. :D


Just imagine how more awesome ME2 would have been if you had the chance to play ME1 first. :p

This is in Dragon Age 2 so more than likely it will be in ME3.

"The original dialogue system will be replaced by the "wheel" system previously seen in the Mass Effect series. Unlike its original version, however, the "wheel" will now clearly indicate what tone the main character's response will have(such as anger and flirting)."

I'm actually interested in the next installment of the ME world. I would love to play as an Asari. I would become a Justicar. :D

Aha. I'm doing Tali's Loyalty missions now:tongue: I still have to do Grunts and Taylor's though. I want to try and make sure everyone survives this time. Jack is the only one
[Show spoiler]that died last time but she wasn't loyal.


I'm curious about trying out Dragon Age but the gameplay looks weird as hell. I can't wait to see how your decisions carry over from ME2 to ME3. Renegade has been pretty interesting so far.

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4368919)
Aha. I'm doing Tali's Loyalty missions now:tongue: I still have to do Grunts and Taylor's though. I want to try and make sure everyone survives this time. Jack is the only one
[Show spoiler]that died last time but she wasn't loyal.


I'm curious about trying out Dragon Age but the gameplay looks weird as hell. I can't wait to see how your decisions carry over from ME2 to ME3. Renegade has been pretty interesting so far.
Tali's the last one I have left and I think I have some side missions left.
[Show spoiler] pretty much everyone is dead on my vanguard playthrough. I even killed the senator on thane's loyalty mission. I'm also going to get Tali exiled and let Kelly die


Dragon Age is awesome. It plays similar to ME, combat uses the wheel and instead of powers you have ablilites and spells. If you like ME then you SHOULD like DA. I was playing nothing but DA till ME came out. The only thing I didn't like about DA was the main character didn't talk. But that has been fixed in DA2 :rock:

I might end up buying ME3 for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 :eek:

Denoku 02-10-2011 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368946)
Tali's the last one I have left and I think I have some side missions left.
[Show spoiler] pretty much everyone is dead on my vanguard playthrough. I even killed the senator on thane's loyalty mission. I'm also going to get Tali exiled and let Kelly die


Dragon Age is awesome. It plays similar to ME, combat uses the wheel and instead of powers you have ablilites and spells. If you like ME then you SHOULD like DA. I was playing nothing but DA till ME came out. The only thing I didn't like about DA was the main character didn't talk. But that has been fixed in DA2 :rock:

I might end up buying ME3 for both the PS3 and Xbox 360 :eek:
I've been letting everyone die as well.
[Show spoiler]I think it's funny how you kill the Senator in front of the C-sec and nothing happens. They instead arrest Kolygat who only attempted to kill. Killing Sidonis felt a little messed up. I think I'm going to get Tali exiled as well. I'm going Renegade so might as well. I'll probably let the crew die as well so I don't have to worry about sending someone back with them. Or to get the trophy does the crew need to survive as well?


Well I'll check out Dragon Age. It really peaked my interest since Mass Effect was so awesome. I thought Dragon Age has to be decent if it's made by BioWare. I also just want to travel around some more and see if I can find some little side missions like the Presidium fish or the Forged ID's.

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4368959)
I've been letting everyone die as well.
[Show spoiler]I think it's funny how you kill the Senator in front of the C-sec and nothing happens. They instead arrest Kolygat who only attempted to kill. Killing Sidonis felt a little messed up. I think I'm going to get Tali exiled as well. I'm going Renegade so might as well. I'll probably let the crew die as well so I don't have to worry about sending someone back with them. Or to get the trophy does the crew need to survive as well?


Well I'll check out Dragon Age. It really peaked my interest since Mass Effect was so awesome. I thought Dragon Age has to be decent if it's made by BioWare. I also just want to travel around some more and see if I can find some little side missions like the Presidium fish or the Forged ID's.
[Show spoiler]you should get the trophy since i don't think the crew counts. I'm curious how ME3 will play if you kill off Shepard and the entire squadmates


You should definitely play DA. DA2 comes out next month too :rock:

Denoku 02-10-2011 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368982)
[Show spoiler]you should get the trophy since i don't think the crew counts. I'm curious how ME3 will play if you kill off Shepard and the entire squadmates


You should definitely play DA. DA2 comes out next month too :rock:

[Show spoiler]
Cereberus will rebuild you again. Maybe Miranda's father will make a better Miranda:naughty:(if that's possible) I'm going to let everyone die this time besides my Squad and Shepard. Maybe my Renegade Female Shepard, I'll just let everyone die. Hopefully I can let everyone live this time. I hope to acomplish everything thing in this game on my own. I like trying to figure things out.

Do I need to play DA before DA2?

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4368988)
[Show spoiler]
Cereberus will rebuild you again. Maybe Miranda's father will make a better Miranda:naughty:(if that's possible) I'm going to let everyone die this time besides my Squad and Shepard. Maybe my Renegade Female Shepard, I'll just let everyone die. Hopefully I can let everyone live this time. I hope to acomplish everything thing in this game on my own. I like trying to figure things out.

Do I need to play DA before DA2?
[Show spoiler]maybe it'll be Miranda's sister :D Which doesn't help since I didn't have Miranda talk to her. lol.


Not really. Whole different character, but just like ME the decisions you made in DA affects what happens in DA2.

Denoku 02-10-2011 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368994)
[Show spoiler]maybe it'll be Miranda's sister :D Which doesn't help since I didn't have Miranda talk to her. lol.


Not really. Whole different character, but just like ME the decisions you made in DA affects what happens in DA2.
Ha I didn't either. The Renegade playthrough is so messed up but funny at times. I love when your talking to Thane about his son and Commander Shepard says "Congratulations, you spawned. Organic Species tend to do that.":D

I'll have to check out DA I suppose. I may skip the first though.

MerrickG 02-10-2011 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368902)
[Show spoiler] I think I'm going to go get Legion and then go do Tali's Loyalty mission and see what happens. :D


Just imagine how more awesome ME2 would have been if you had the chance to play ME1 first. :p

This is in Dragon Age 2 so more than likely it will be in ME3.

"The original dialogue system will be replaced by the "wheel" system previously seen in the Mass Effect series. Unlike its original version, however, the "wheel" will now clearly indicate what tone the main character's response will have(such as anger and flirting)."

I'm actually interested in the next installment of the ME world. I would love to play as an Asari. I would become a Justicar. :D
Speaking of the dialogue system, I like the fact that you can use the square (X on the 360) to move the dialogue on more quickly,BUT one thing I wish they would fix is the making it such that X (or A) is the only way to actually select your dialogue choice since it does get annoying to go through dialogue a little too quickly and end up selecting the wrong choice. I dont know why they never fixed that.

MerrickG 02-10-2011 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368982)
[Show spoiler]you should get the trophy since i don't think the crew counts. I'm curious how ME3 will play if you kill off Shepard and the entire squadmates


You should definitely play DA. DA2 comes out next month too :rock:
If you die at the end of ME2, you will NOT be able to import that character for ME3. Bioware has said this many times.

Denoku 02-10-2011 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by merrick97 (Post 4369036)
If you die at the end of ME2, you will NOT be able to import that character for ME3. Bioware has said this many times.

So if you die during the Suicide mission there is no retry?

jsteinhauer 02-10-2011 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4368886)
I do think this is the best game on PS3. I like Uncharted but I don't think it's the greatest thing on the PS3. It's just right for the masses and a lot of people think it's the best game ever but there are plenty of other games I like more. This will be the best until Mass Effect 3.
I'm not very good a picking a "best game" ever, and it's hard to compare Uncharted to ME2, since they are so different. Fallout 3 and Dead Space are pretty awesome, too, for different reasons, and I would have a hard time deciding on which I thought was best. ME2 is more refined than Fallout 3, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 4368902)

This is in Dragon Age 2 so more than likely it will be in ME3.

"The original dialogue system will be replaced by the "wheel" system previously seen in the Mass Effect series. Unlike its original version, however, the "wheel" will now clearly indicate what tone the main character's response will have(such as anger and flirting)."

I'm actually interested in the next installment of the ME world. I would love to play as an Asari. I would become a Justicar. :D
I'm hoping the Dragon Age 2 UI is improved over DA: Origins. I've seen the gameplay trailer, but it's on PC, not PS3. The console interface was not good for controlling NPC party members, if you liked previous Bioware RPGs. The ME2 interface is much better in that you can give instructions to the the whole squad during a single pause. In DA:O, you had to pause, give instructions, pause, give instructions, etc. for each party member. The tactics slots were very clumsy, and you could spend an hour fine tuning them for each fight, if it were in your nature.

Snake_XRS 02-10-2011 01:21 PM
Mad props to Icemage for originally recommending sentinel class for insanity and I can unscientifically confirm that Mr J was right about insanity being much easier as a new game as opposed to importing.

I played through Freedoms Progress to get to level 30 on my imported soldier class, died like 10 times. Once I got my lvl 30 trophy, I created a new character as a sentinel I was able to breeze through that area with no deaths.

Soldier is brutal on insanity because virtually every enemy has biotic armor, barrier, shields, etc.

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake_XRS (Post 4369475)
Soldier is brutal on insanity because virtually every enemy has biotic armor, barrier, shields, etc.

It's like that for all the classes :D

Beefbowl 02-10-2011 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jsteinhauer (Post 4369381)
I'm not very good a picking a "best game" ever, and it's hard to compare Uncharted to ME2, since they are so different. Fallout 3 and Dead Space are pretty awesome, too, for different reasons, and I would have a hard time deciding on which I thought was best. ME2 is more refined than Fallout 3, for sure.



I'm hoping the Dragon Age 2 UI is improved over DA: Origins. I've seen the gameplay trailer, but it's on PC, not PS3. The console interface was not good for controlling NPC party members, if you liked previous Bioware RPGs. The ME2 interface is much better in that you can give instructions to the the whole squad during a single pause. In DA:O, you had to pause, give instructions, pause, give instructions, etc. for each party member. The tactics slots were very clumsy, and you could spend an hour fine tuning them for each fight, if it were in your nature.
DAO controls didn't bother me one bit. I guess I played it so much it became second nature to me. I would have to say ME2 has the best combat system that I've played. Insanity can get frustrating and yet it's still so damn fun. Not many games give you this much variety. It would be hard to imagine how they can improve what they have now.

Icemage 02-10-2011 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Snake_XRS (Post 4369475)
Mad props to Icemage for originally recommending sentinel class for insanity and I can unscientifically confirm that Mr J was right about insanity being much easier as a new game as opposed to importing.

I played through Freedoms Progress to get to level 30 on my imported soldier class, died like 10 times. Once I got my lvl 30 trophy, I created a new character as a sentinel I was able to breeze through that area with no deaths.

Soldier is brutal on insanity because virtually every enemy has biotic armor, barrier, shields, etc.
:) People doubt until they try it for themselves. Soldier really isn't bad for Insanity - there's some missions that it just breezes through (all the timed missions, for instance). But like most of the classes, you have very little margin for error. Pop out of cover for more than a moment as a Soldier and you can expect to die. In the grand scheme of things, Soldier is probably a somewhat distant 2nd to Sentinel in terms of overall survivability/frustration on Insanity.

MerrickG 02-10-2011 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Denoku (Post 4369071)
So if you die during the Suicide mission there is no retry?
not unless you reload a save before and fix some of the problems that caused you to die.

Its almost harder to have everyone die for the suicide mission.

You have to do NO ship upgrades, No loyalty missions and pick the wrong person for each job.

EDIT: Maybe I am confused as to your question. If you have an in-game death in the suicide mission, then yes you of course can retry.

But you can succeed in the suicide mission and have Shepard and everyone except Joker die. That death is final and you will not be able to import that game into ME3.

Here is a two part SPOILER heavy youtube video of that happening:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZY-s...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5pESyYgJLk


Game Informer has a flow chart on how to have everyone survive the suicide mission (or die). Obviously you should avoid this link if you want to figure it out for yourself.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...-effect-2.aspx

jsteinhauer 02-10-2011 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by merrick97 (Post 4369646)
EDIT: Maybe I am confused as to your question. If you have an in-game death in the suicide mission, then yes you of course can retry.

But you can succeed in the suicide mission and have Shepard and everyone except Joker die. That death is final and you will not be able to import that game into ME3.
I think the question is if you can succeed the suicide mission (essentially finish the game, I guess), but die, can you still reload a previous save and do it again to try and survive, which is not necessarily the same as dying mid-mission? I haven't played the suicide mission, so I don't know how it plays out. I read elsewhere that you can succeed the suicide mission on Insanity, and if you lose anyone, reload the previous save, lower the difficulty, then earn the trophy for keeping everyone alive. But, I certainly can't verify that.


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