I like the Asari with the markings on their face:naughty:

I am aware that is who you were referring to. I do feel that killing her was beyond extreme as a renegade

sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do :p I did save her though, but the default choice is her being killed :angry:

The arc projector is what I used on Horizon, too.

I don't necessarily think this is true. Shepard's being used, and the Illusive man has him you know where. They say he's essentially unchanged, but is he really?

It's more surprising that his former friends are not more suspicious that he has not in some way been altered.

I like the idea of being a renegade to kill when necessary to get the job done, but that was an example of killing being a completely evil act.

Well Kaiden or Ashley certainly was on Horizon.

His friends ARE suspicious. That's why you have to go through the trouble of recruiting them; proving to each of them that you're still "you". That's a strong recurring theme in ME2.

By the by, regarding ME1, I agree with merrick97's criticism of some of the omissions. The two that are most peculiar are the absence of Conrad Verner (who as mentioned has a tangible quest line in ME2 that earns you a discount at a store if you put up with his nonsense in ME1), and also Helena Blake.

I'm still tinkering with a ME1 playthrough on my PC where I keep all of the above alive, but I'm not sure if I'll get ME3 on PC, PS3, or both. Maybe both. :p

The Helena Blake thing was an example of a superficial decision that meant nothing in the actual game but was cool to see nonetheless if you remember what you did for her in ME1. I think leaving her out was for the better since it would have created more confusion than anything else. The Conrad Verner thing was a big deal since the discount would have majorly come in handy for an insanity run where credits are limited.

Credits were one of the main reasons I did Kasumi's missions early on Insanity since they provided a lot of money that could be used to purchase weapon upgrades.

btw, Icemage I would appreciate your thoughts on the comments I made on comparing ME1 to ME2.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-gam...ml#post4384084

Well I figured out what "Our suits have kinetic barriers....." is from. It is Thane's mission. Still couldn't do it though.

They're a little suspicious, but not THAT suspicious (save Tali). They are afterall leads given by Cerberus (so probably paid) and you have to do favors for them to be "loyal". It's all bribery and doesn't seem too fraternal. And they're volunteering for a suicide mission of all things, and they're not even trying to talk Shepard out of it, even when Shepard himself thinks it might be a setup. Maybe they are all in on it.

We don't know for sure that Shepard really is his "old self" anyway. Remember,

I admit, much more could have been done to provide backstory in detail. Something to read, or even a for fee cartoon from PSN would be something. While I'm curious about some things. I'm not going to be buying a 360 or equipping a PC just to play ME1.

You dont need a super PC to play ME1.

I do hope in ME3 that you do get to see a lot more of the Citadel like you did in ME1

I was wondering about this. I really liked the Citadel but it seemed small. I was wondering if it was bigger in the first. I imagined it was since they were still rebuilding after the "Geth" attack.

It was quite a bit bigger in the first. In ME2 if you go to the presidium in the citadel where you talk to Anderson and Udina and look at the view behind them you will see a huge part of the area that you could walk around in the first one.

There were a lot of other parts too. The Citadel was pretty big and it wasnt common to spend a lot of time doing side missions there in the first one.

Like I said thats one of my beef's with ME2 in that the importance of the citadel is largely neglected. There was no mention in ME2 of the citadel being the mass relay that opened the hole to dark space where the reapers were located, nor was the importance of the Keepers ever even touched on in the 2nd one. IMO those are pretty big deals of ME lore.

I will say this about the keepers though:

The keepers IMO represent the biggest leap of logic in the entire world of Mass Effect. It boggles my mind that cultures and government of the citadel would allow these mindless things to just do nothing and not know what they are doing at a place of such galactic importance and have rules that no one is allowed to study or mess with them. Think about it. Imagine if you go to Washington and saw strange things that people know nothing about hanging out at power poles appearing harmless. You dont think that SOMEONE in power would want to know whats going on.

Another story nitpick with the first ME was that the Counsel seemed FAR too easily to believe the evidence provided by Tali of Saren's guilt. I would have figured they would have questioned whether such a thing could have been forged AFTER seeing how easily Kasumi forged Donovan Hocks voice in ME2. Given how badly they treated humans at that time it seemed logical that they would make an accusation.

To be honest, merrick97 is right. ME: Genesis is a nice little backstory, but it sometimes feels empty when you're making the decisions. I wish that Dark Horse Comics made ME: Genesis look like the cutscenes from inFAMOUS, with the additional material removed from the comic such as the mission on Ferros. I could imagine Mass Effect: Genesis in the style of the inFAMOUS cutscenes changing the depth of feel when it comes to revisiting the story of Mass Effect 1 and the decisions you make. Also, they could've added some downloadable add-ons in the form of more cutscenes in Genesis so that the number of choices would be more broader (like having to deal with that certain big fan of yours in the first game).

It also makes me think that it would be better if Mass Effect 1 would come to the PS3, because I know it's a big deal in the series, as it's a trilogy of course.

Also, the Citadel could've been bigger in ME2. I know that due to space limitations on the 360 and PC versions, the Citadel had to be cut down in size, but I want to see how the rest of the Citadel has changed over time while you were dead in the past two years. Maybe BioWare could make the next DLC explore much more of what the Citadel environments have to offer.

Then again, it's my two cents.

No one cares what you think Kotse

Damn it Mr. J! You can't go all Renegade then back off. It makes you look weak:mad:

Then why give me the option? :banghead:

I don't know.

But much of it is still under repair. Furthermore, there is increased security. Though as a Spectre, you should have clearance. I don't know what happens, when Shepard tells the Council off (quit being a Spectre?). The story can't branch that wildly. Cerberus crew wouldn't have clearance, either.
I agree with this beef, after having read up some on this.
In your human logic, it is a leap. Furthermore, they've been messed with, to no avail. After many tries with no results, why persist. Yes, that would be unlike humans, I agree.
Maybe it's not so easy. Kasumi is the best, not the most famous.

I understand that, but I have no reason to believe they couldnt have opened up some more of the citadel. I find it hard to believe that it would still be in disarray after two years. Nevertheless, the citadel needs to get back into the game more for ME3 so players can understand that its a centerpiece to the ME universe.

I knew it wasn't just me.

Why persist? Cuz they could be dangerous and if you dont know what something is doing. You typically dont let it hang around. Saren showed they could be easily killed. I figured they would have been just exterminated. However, given that the citadel is still mysterious to its inhabitants I can see why there could be some logic to the thought that the keepers allow the citadel to run properly and that destroying them could destroy the citadel (eventhough Saren proved otherwise See 3:10 of this video ). In that regard I can see it being logical that its best to leave them alone. So maybe its not QUITE an insane leap of logic.

Just with all the skepticism they had shown Shepard and doubting humans it just seemed like they were a little too easy to accept a recording of sarens voice.

whatever. its all nitpicky and sometimes its better to be less than perfect than to dig yourself into a ridiculous hole.