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Beefbowl 08-26-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cplhicks (Post 3669080)
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here yet or not, but couldn't Bioware just build some extra stuff into the character creator for ME2 that basically tells the brief story of part 1, and asks questions like "What did you do in this situation?" I mean, as I recall ME1 had questions like that about your character's past. They could just do that for the major story point choices, and then they'd be propagated into ME2. Minor choices about little side stories could be ignored, but they could easily hit the high points so people don't miss out too much.

They already do that in ME2. I think PS3 owners are just going to be SOL.

GLaDOS 08-26-2010 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 3669249)
They already do that in ME2. I think PS3 owners are just going to be SOL.

I think those decisions were just Paragon and Renegade ones. I think he meant what actions Shepard did in ME1 (Did he kill Wrex? Did he romance Ashley or Liara?).

Beefbowl 08-27-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kotsedriver (Post 3669294)
I think those decisions were just Paragon and Renegade ones. I think he meant what actions Shepard did in ME1 (Did he kill Wrex? Did he romance Ashley or Liara?).

you're probably right...I was reading this in wiki..lol

" In addition, cheating on your Mass Effect love interest in Mass Effect 2 will have consequences for Mass Effect 3. "

RocShemp 08-27-2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 3669768)
you're probably right...I was reading this in wiki..lol

" In addition, cheating on your Mass Effect love interest in Mass Effect 2 will have consequences for Mass Effect 3. "

It's gonna be a fun (albeit bumpy) ride. :D

Mr. J 08-27-2010 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn (Post 3668154)
No it doesn't. Name something that ME2 did based off ME1 that a player who didn't even play ME1 would notice, much less care about.

I have no clue how to answer this because it doesn't make sense. Of course if you've never played ME1 then you won't catch anything in ME2 that relates to ME1. But....playing ME1 makes those reference parts in ME2 that much better. But this is obviously going in one ear and straight out the other.

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Originally Posted by Terjyn (Post 3668154)
Well, of course you should play that game. That is not the issue. People keep implying that ME2 would be a much worse experience if you hadn't played ME1, and that's what I no longer believe to be true, because you don't know what you are missing...and you don't need anything from ME1 to understand ME2.

If you've read my previous posts before then you would realize that I've said numerous times that ME2 does a good job of standing on its own without ME1, but in order to understand and get a full feeling of the Mass Effect Universe then YES, ME1 is a must! Its a no-brainer really!!

Beefbowl 08-27-2010 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn (Post 3668154)
No it doesn't. Name something that ME2 did based off ME1 that a player who didn't even play ME1 would notice, much less care about.


Well, of course you should play that game. That is not the issue. People keep implying that ME2 would be a much worse experience if you hadn't played ME1, and that's what I no longer believe to be true, because you don't know what you are missing...and you don't need anything from ME1 to understand ME2.

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Originally Posted by Mr. J (Post 3670035)
I have no clue how to answer this because it doesn't make sense. Of course if you've never played ME1 then you won't catch anything in ME2 that relates to ME1. But....playing ME1 makes those reference parts in ME2 that much better. But this is obviously going in one ear and straight out the other.



If you've read my previous posts before then you would realize that I've said numerous times that ME2 does a good job of standing on its own without ME1, but in order to understand and get a full feeling of the Mass Effect Universe then YES, ME1 is a must! Its a no-brainer really!!


You're going to run into people in ME2 that was in ME1 and wonder WTF is going on. There's going to be a lot of "who's this person and what's he/she is talking about."

Mr. J 08-27-2010 02:43 AM

Read this and learn something:

In Retrospect: The benefits of importing your save into Mass Effect 2

You guys who've never played ME1 and think it isn't important, have no idea what you're missing. The storyline changes drastically with an imported ME1 character.

Icemage 08-27-2010 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. J (Post 3670054)
Read this and learn something:

In Retrospect: The benefits of importing your save into Mass Effect 2

You guys who've never played ME1 and think it isn't important, have no idea what you're missing. The storyline changes drastically with an imported ME1 character.

This this this!

This is why I've been slowly chipping away at yet ANOTHER run through ME1 just so I can get the imported perks.

Beefbowl 08-27-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Icemage (Post 3670272)
This this this!

This is why I've been slowly chipping away at yet ANOTHER run through ME1 just so I can get the imported perks.

I'm pretty sure when ME3 comes out, i'm gonna play ME1-ME2 all over again...lol..by then ME1 is really gonna look like crap.

Terjyn 08-27-2010 03:10 PM

For the 3rd time. I'm not saying don't play ME1.

I'm saying ME2 is not lessened by not playing ME1. And I stand by that.

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The storyline changes drastically with an imported ME1 character.
No, it doesn't. Do you not recruit characters the same based on ME1? Are the loyalty missions vastly different based on ME1? Does the suicide mission change based on ME1?

No. What changes is fluff dialogue. Admittedly very very cool fluff dialogue, but it's still all fluff.

The 3rd game may change that, but as implemented in 2, it is all fluff.

NOTE: I understand every word you are saying, I just don't agree. I love how disagree = ignore/idiocy in your line of thinking.

PS - My background is I bought ME2 for PC after owning ME1 on 360, so my first playthrough was with Canon. I later went back, bought ME1 on PC, and tried several different paths. In all cases all that changed was fluff.

Terjyn 08-27-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 3670053)
You're going to run into people in ME2 that was in ME1 and wonder WTF is going on. There's going to be a lot of "who's this person and what's he/she is talking about."

That's just it, you won't wonder WTF is going on at all. ME2 is wonderful at explaining enough that you get the idea. At the time I first played ME2 I had never done the Renegade option from ME1, and I barely remembered anything from ME1, and yet the game flowed and played perfectly.

Terjyn 08-27-2010 03:53 PM

Look, all I'm really trying to say here is that ME2 is a phenomenal game without ME1. That's it.

It really sounds like several of you are trying to talk people who ONLY have a PS3 out of buying this game...based on the fact that they won't be able to play ME1 first.

That is what I ultimately disagree with.

Mr. J 08-27-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn (Post 3672101)
Look, all I'm really trying to say here is that ME2 is a phenomenal game without ME1. That's it.

It really sounds like several of you are trying to talk people who ONLY have a PS3 out of buying this game...based on the fact that they won't be able to play ME1 first.

That is what I ultimately disagree with.

Absolutely not. In the first few pages of this thread I was ecstatic about this game being released on PS3 (I still am actually). It wasn't until someone mentioned the importing of your ME1 character that I started to think...."Yeah, you're really missing out on the full experience by not importing a ME1 character".

I completely agree with you in saying that ME2 alone is still a phenomenal game. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm just extremely interested in how their gonna implement ME1 with the PS3 version of ME2.

I didn't play ME1 until I played ME2. After I played it, I was so in love with the game that I played through ME1.....then imported that character and re-played ME2. Trust me.....the story changes....not only that but so does the dialog.

The great thing about it, is ME2 will be released on PS3.....until I hear how they're implementing ME1, I may just stick with ME3 for the 360. I mean the game is so damn good I would love to play through it a few more times on the PS3.....but we'll see.....thats all I'm saying....

Beefbowl 08-27-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. J (Post 3672166)
Absolutely not. In the first few pages of this thread I was ecstatic about this game being released on PS3 (I still am actually). It wasn't until someone mentioned the importing of your ME1 character that I started to think...."Yeah, you're really missing out on the full experience by not importing a ME1 character".

I completely agree with you in saying that ME2 alone is still a phenomenal game. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm just extremely interested in how their gonna implement ME1 with the PS3 version of ME2.

I didn't play ME1 until I played ME2. After I played it, I was so in love with the game that I played through ME1.....then imported that character and re-played ME2. Trust me.....the story changes....not only that but so does the dialog.

I'll probably end up buying the PS3 version anyways even though I already have it on the 360. I love ME2 that much..lol

The great thing about it, is ME2 will be released on PS3.....until I hear how they're implementing ME1, I may just stick with ME3 for the 360. I mean the game is so damn good I would love to play through it a few more times on the PS3.....but we'll see.....thats all I'm saying....

+1
It's like watching an edited movie. The movie might be enjoyable and might feel complete, but you rather have the longer uncut version. :D

Beefbowl 08-27-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terjyn (Post 3671910)
That's just it, you won't wonder WTF is going on at all. ME2 is wonderful at explaining enough that you get the idea. At the time I first played ME2 I had never done the Renegade option from ME1, and I barely remembered anything from ME1, and yet the game flowed and played perfectly.

I think people will. They're going to wonder who are these people that shepard runs into and what's their history is with shepard.

Icemage 08-27-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Beefbowl (Post 3672616)
+1
It's like watching an edited movie. The movie might be enjoyable and might feel complete, but you rather have the longer uncut version. :D

There are a LOT of NPCs and conversations that you simply can't unlock in an un-imported ME2, and yes several of the main storyline and loyalty missions actually change dialog based on what decisions you made in ME1 (this is especially true with respect to Urdnot Wrex).

I was vastly unhappy with the fact that Wrex is dead in the un-imported ME2 canon. I always kept him alive in ME1, not only because he's the strongest and toughest ally in your team, but also because he's like a cool and very likable character.

Having him reduced to a footnote in the game really rubbed me raw.

Mr. J 08-27-2010 07:57 PM

Thats another story in itself.....I don't even remember Wrex being mention when I played ME2 without my imported ME1 character. Then I find out that when you let him live in ME1 that there is actually dialog with him in ME2......I was like :eek:.......

You seriously miss out on so much....

I agree with Beefbowl......the generic story for ME2, while still great, is like the Theatrical Cut of the movie, while the imported ME1 character is the Director's Cut :D

Suntory_Times 08-28-2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. J (Post 3670054)
Read this and learn something:

In Retrospect: The benefits of importing your save into Mass Effect 2

You guys who've never played ME1 and think it isn't important, have no idea what you're missing. The storyline changes drastically with an imported ME1 character.

I'm on my first playthrough of ME2 with a new character, I then plan to go back and play through ME1 again (as I no longer like the character I had), and then play through ME2 with that character. :)

Darkhawk9587 08-28-2010 12:13 PM

Regardless of this spat of whether having an imported character from ME1 changes ME2 drastically or not, the fact remains that 1) the PS3 will not be getting ME1, so it really doesn't matter and 2) it's good to at least get ME2, seeing as it's such a highly acclaimed game.

cheaitsjustin 08-28-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhawk9587 (Post 3675321)
Regardless of this spat of whether having an imported character from ME1 changes ME2 drastically or not, the fact remains that 1) the PS3 will not be getting ME1, so it really doesn't matter and 2) it's good to at least get ME2, seeing as it's such a highly acclaimed game.

^This.

I'm a little disappointed that we aren't getting ME1, but I'd rather have ME2 (where they fixed the issues from the first game) than not having either one of them.

SO excited! :rock:


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