Yep, I know. But it's still not this physical planet. It's another version of this planet, which is, in theory, still a different place. So again, not the same as the first 3 films at all.

You are thinking of alternate realities. That is not the same thing as a different dimension. Think of a notebook comprised of many pages. You can go from one page to another, but you are still in the same notebook. Dimensions are the layers of the universe. They stack onto one another.

No, I'm not. parallel universes, etc, whatever you want to call them, still exist i a different place than we do. Therefore, it's not rooted in OUR Earth history as we know it. None of the events in the first 3 films needed spaceships to get back to wherever they came from. It's really not hard to understand, but if you guys want to bend every truth to try and fit your explanation to make the movie fit with the other 3, be my guest. Again, the 4th also isn't religion based, so it's also different in that regard. It's been CLEARLY stated by Lucas that it's based around sci-fi, which is another change from the first 3 films. It really doesn't get any more clear than that.

Yes I do believe Lucas has said that sci-fi stuff played a big part into it, and I think it makes a lot of sense, since the movie is set in the 50s, to have Soviets as villains and some kind of vaguely sci-fi-ish angle in there as well.

I'm not bending truth I'm stating string theory. They are still occupying the same space, but out of phase with our own plane of existence. Meaning they do infact occupy the same space. We pass through many dimensions every day. You yourself are occupying more than one dimension right now. Your entirely ignoring parts of string theory. I'm not going to argue much on this, because its all theoretical anyways, and there are many different theories on how dimensions work. Here is one such type, and it is clearly what Lucas and Spielberg used in KOTCS.


Type 3 Parallel Universes
Infinite type 3 universes occupy the same space and time as ours but in different dimensions. These dimensions are each flat membranes that are almost on top of one another. Our own universe floats on one of these membranes. Physicists hypothesize that two of these membranes clashed together like two cosmic cymbals and produced the big bang. This theory gets even stranger. A T-Rex may be storming through your living room, in a parallel Earth, where dinosaurs never went extinct.


So yeah, fuss about Lucas all you want, but he used an actual theory about dimensions. He didn't pull it out of his ass, and he didn't come up with it. You are giving him more credit than he deserves.

No wonder I can never find my friggin' remotes.

Plus Spielberg said he didn't want to use Nazis again anyway after making Schindler's List. He's gone on record about that.

Plus as has been noted, the Russians and the Sci-Fi elements fit the 50's era better. Which was the point of the series, reflecting the themes of the eras.

Wow! What a suprise! Yet another fictional movie being analyzed as fact :rolleyes:

I, for one, prefer the first three to KOTCS, but after repeat viewings, I did eventually find KOTCS tolerable. Much more tolerable compaired to some around here, though.:meh:

Probably not ET, as I think that will be in late November/early December in time for Christmas shopping season...but Jaws has a release date of 8/14. :D

did anyone else get an email from amazon about their pre-order??

it said something about how they were still attempting to fulfill the order i had placed on 3/2.

all i could think was that it was a pre-order w/no release date. :confused2:

Went in totally ignorant of the story so it surprised me and that it had moved up into the '50's. I wasn't expecting or wanting another WW2 era story so that was good. I always had a fondness for "Chariots of the Gods" type concepts so had fun with that even though its a shift from the previous entries. Disliked the Junior Junior guy, he changed the dynamic of Indy's situation and is such a sitcom cliche and kind of overloaded an already big cast of major characters. Enjoyed seeing Marion, sad there was no Sala or even a mention of him. Some of the action sequences seemed a little long winded.

So somewhat uneven, I'll have to revisit it again to see if its grown on me any more or not.

Where does Indy go from here if he goes? They've tapped the two biggest archeological quests with the Ark and the Grail, the magic stones were minor, and aliens or inter-dimensional beings. Something based on Nordic or Oriental religion and culture, Australian aboriginal? Would Atlantis be too corny at this stage of the game?

I say, after 2 Holy artefacts, explore something more evil!

Why not something possessed that can destroy cities, command an army of dead bodies or demons?! I always think about the mythologic (but fake) Necronomicon (Kitab al-Azif) written by the mad arab Abdul Al-Hazred from the H.P. Lovecraft stories... I know it'll never happen in an Indy movie, but "Indiana Jones and the Damned Grimoire" would be a cool concept! Make it 1966 with some sorcery-magic lore (The satanic church of Anton Lavey was created on this date) mix some ancient US stories Salem and you have a great Halloween themed Indiana Jones!

Yeah I think so. I'm hoping for Titanic though I think it'll be December as well.

I did not, that is strange. The announcement said Fall though.

Holy artifacts are evil? :ohnoes:

The kind of concept you suggest really does seem more suited for a low-budget Sam Raimi movie, imho. (Starring Bruce Campbell, of course).

To do it the Indy way would make it less cheesy than it should be, I think, to have maximum entertainment value!

Don't worry about it. That's just an automated email, stating that they don't have an official release date. Once the release date is official, you won't see those emails again.

Voodoo

Hahaha! Okay, you got me there! I was a big fans of the Evil Dead trilogy in my college years, maybe even after the buzz, I'm still dreaming about Evil Dead 4! :D

But, I think subtility can kill the cheese! Instead of real demons, they can use the idea of it. If the bad guy believe in the power of the Necronomicon (or whatever he believes in) he can be a threat even if those things are not real.

One thing is sure, with all the Indy games, Comics, Novels, Tv-series, etc. the ideas for new movies are hard to find! An Indy movie must have action, but also an artefact based on "magic" or "religion" (or Alien). Lovecraft's Necronomicon is all that! :rolleyes:

While I agree that Lovecraft and Indiana Jones wouldn't mix well, I have to object to the notion that Lovecraft can't be taken seriously in a film. This kind of thinking is pretty much the reason that all Lovecraft adaptations end up as cheesy garbage, despite the fact that the source material itself isn't.

I've never read a Lovecraft story that was as cheesy as Temple of Doom or Crystal Skull. :p

The Fountain of Youth?

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Thank you, be sure the try the veal.

I hate to say it, but I think they should just stop with any more sequels. I feel that too much time has passed since Raiders, Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade. Crystal Skull was decent enough, but it didn't have the same "feel" that the original three did. Harrison is obviously older and Shia really didn't fit my idea of an Indiana Jones movie. I just think it's time to move on and not ruin one of the best action characters of all time.