Just saw Raiders tonight at a special 4K digital screening at the Astor Theatre in Melbourne.

FYI: The cobra refection is gone.

I have to say, seeing the film projected so large and so close, shows up how real the movie actually looks. Films being quite CGI heavy these days look so artificial, so it was both odd and refreshing watching a 31-year-old movie on the big screen again. In some ways it looked (only slightly) aged, but in other ways it holds up remarkably well.

However, it would've looked quite odd to newer viewers (there were a few kids in the audience) if the glaringly obvious cobra reflection was there. Frankly, it would make the scene quite comical, when it is supposed to be menacing and frightening.

It's a funny thing. I used to hate the cardboard book style packaging, but the extremely well made Alien and Star Wars sets have turned me around. Now I look down at plastic Amarays as being relatively tacky.

Nice. It looks like we'll be getting some deleted footage (the unfinished whip fight).

Anyone else notice they're recycling the Star Wars Saga disc art?

I was under the impression that Spielberg and Ford both stated that the sword fight scene was never shot. That trailer shows indeed it was. But never finished apparently?

Yes, I did notice the disc art. It's identical to the Star Wars discs. That's fine with me. Lets hope the packaging follows suit, as I've always considered both series as siblings.

I believe they shot some of it, but Ford wasn't feeling up to it and they came up with the moment in the film.

So it looks like I'll have to wait for the individual releases. SKULL will not find it's way into my collection.

Is it like the star wars packaging?

Again, this isn't housing the discs in the same way that Star Wars or Alien did... this is more like the Planet Earth Special Edition set where the discs load into the sides of the pages. A fan of proper book packaging like Alien, Deadwood and Star Wars Im a fan of... but not this.

Because I don't like it, that's why. I'm entitled to my opinion.

Does anyone know if these Indiana Jones releases are THX certified?

I agree. The movie is called RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK.

Lucas clearly has O.C.D. and is obsessed with having everything match, even when it's creatively misguided. Someone should get him some help.

Anyone else watching Raiders on BBC HD now? Looks absolutely wonderful!

Edit: Just discovered it's the old master... Well if it fooled me then it can only look better haha

Sorry if I sounded like a dick with my reply guys. Didn't mean to!

Not to be anal, but I think LAST CRUSADE is pretty bad, and CRYSTAL SKULL even worse, so I bristle a bit when you lump Last Crusade in with Raiders.

Really, folks, there has been one movie everyone loves - Raiders of the Lost Ark - and then it's just been one controversial and problematic sequel after another ever since.

Does anyone know if these Indiana Jones releases are THX certified?

Just finished watching it, and **** me...were there that many 'tramline' scratches on the Lowry master? It's been a while since I've seen Raiders on DVD, so I can't remember. That said, the BBC master has the redone 'jeep over cliff' matte shot, which wasn't part of the Lowry version. So maybe it's a different transfer altogether, hence all the scratches.

I've still got a few problems with Raiders' denouement, but nevertheless the film is an absolutely thrilling piece of action cinema. Can't wait for the Blu-ray.

Just saw the new comic-con trailer for the blu-ray's on youtube. The Box art and inside of the blu-ray box set is nice but no artwork on the discs again not good at all. Looking forward to the blu-ray release of the indiana jones films regardless if their is no art work for the discs or not. Because it's not about the cover art it's about the films and the content on the discs.

Nah they have both according to amazon.de

That BBC master was used for the last DVD release (or the current, if it's still being sold), but the release before that had a different master which in my honest opinion looks a bit more faithful.

I only realised this wasn't the new restoration when I remembered the following link:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/827529/blu...#post_18556256

The contrast was really off throughout. But I don't think the tramlines were as bad as you say they were - aside from the colours I thought it looked very faithful to 35mm (even as far as the muckier matte shots), so the latest restoration work will surely take the source beyond how it originally looked, for better or worse...

It's just that there were so many tramlines, one every few minutes, that it seemed a bit odd for the much-vaunted Lowry master to be carrying them. That's not to say that Lowry are perfect, as I despise their frozen grain artefact that has afflicted far too many of my favourite movies, and Thunderball had some similar issues with tramlines, but I don't remember the DVD edition of Raiders looking quite so scratched.

You're forgetting that 'Lowry' (Reliance Media) are just a contract company; they don't use their processes to same parameters on every project they get given. It is up to the customer (the film studio) to tell them what they want from that particular project, and it may not always be a full-blown restoration, because even something 4K can cost upwards of $800,000 from a company like Reliance Media. By doing what we might refer to as very light 'work' - which to me at least looks very faithful to the film elements - less time is spent and the project is cheaper.

In addition, it's a bit of an 'Apple Effect'; don't give the customer all the goods too early, because it means that in future products, the 'additions' that could have been present earlier actually appear new.

Thirdly, the tramlines were barely present on the DVD and when the film was being transferred, they would have almost certainly known that such abrasions wouldn't be as glaringly obvious in the SD format that it was being destined for :)