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lokir1 12-19-2011 04:41 AM

I saw the sharp elite in person this weekend the 70xd I will admit it is the best looking LCD I've ever seen hands down and I really like the thinner angled bezel around the screen wish my 151 had that bezel.lol
With that said owning my 151 iwould no way in hell pay 6k+ for any set that's not beating my sets pic quality by leaps and bounds

steve1971 12-19-2011 12:43 PM

Is this still being discussed? Wow.



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VeryNew 12-31-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingman1977 (Post 5584592)
That's because you haven't seen the 101.;)

Now s/he can juat bu checking my gallery.

Oh please rate while u're at if :) thanks

HDTV1080P 01-09-2012 11:59 PM

The Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD was reviewed in the January 2012 Widescreen Review magazine


The Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD has a 240Hz effect with a true 120Hz refresh rate. The 2-D 1080P/24 material is displayed at 5:5 pulldown when the motion enhancement feature is turned off (Sharp's 2-D frame rate is true Cinema quality with no 3:2 pulldown). 96Hz is a low refresh rate for 3-D. Like all current 3-D flat panel displays on the market the Sharp Elite 70 inch and 60 inch models lacks the 144fps flicker free triple flash technology mode that is used for all single light source projectors in the commercial movie theaters. The Widescreen Review magazine mentioned that some people might notice flicker in 3-D with the active glasses especially when the display is around other objects with fluorescent lights.

On pages 8,10,12, 14, and 15 in the January 2012 Widescreen Review magazine there is a good review on the Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD. The review did not compare the display to the discontinued 2008 model Pioneer PRO-141FD that is used as a reference by many professionals but it mentioned that it was the finest LCD screen that the reviewer has every come across in terms of picture quality.

The following are some select quotes from the January 2012 Widescreen Review magazine:


“Basically we have a winner here, you can’t get any better measurements with the test equipment I have available.”

“Visually, I was dead black, to the point that it was not possible to tell that the HDTV was on unless you saw the little blue LED on at the bottom left.”

“With its stellar black levels and overall superb picture, this high-end model ranks as the finest I have come across.”

PootieThang 01-23-2012 04:55 AM

I love my Sharp Elite. I got it first month that it came out (bought w/ employee discount + employee rebate) from Best Buy. Picture quality blows away my old Sony KDL-52XBR4 and the 3D is also phenomal with no crosstalk whatsoever. I'm so happy I got this TV. Only wished I got the 70" but I quit my job without another job in line.

JimShaw 01-23-2012 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PootieThang (Post 5710359)
I love my Sharp Elite. I got it first month that it came out (bought w/ employee discount + employee rebate) from Best Buy. Picture quality blows away my old Sony KDL-52XBR4 and the 3D is also phenomal with no crosstalk whatsoever. I'm so happy I got this TV. Only wished I got the 70" but I quit my job without another job in line.

I would have loved to pick up the Sharp but the largest I can fit in is a 55". So, it looks like I will have to save for Samsung's 55" OLED

boulder_bum 01-23-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JimShaw (Post 5710385)
I would have loved to pick up the Sharp but the largest I can fit in is a 55". So, it looks like I will have to save for Samsung's 55" OLED

I think LG has the only OLED announced as shipping in 2012, but it sounds like a winner from what I read.

dobyblue 01-23-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boulder_bum (Post 5710591)
I think LG has the only OLED announced as shipping in 2012, but it sounds like a winner from what I read.

I believe Panasonic has said they would have theirs ready in 2012 as well if LG does.

JimShaw 01-23-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boulder_bum (Post 5710591)
I think LG has the only OLED announced as shipping in 2012, but it sounds like a winner from what I read.

No, Samsung, which I have read seems a little better than the LG, will also be out in 2012. Sony has their Crystal coming out also in 2012 which people think is also an OLED






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scweb13 01-23-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JimShaw (Post 5711418)
No, Samsung, which I have read seems a little better than the LG, will also be out in 2012. Sony has their Crystal coming out also in 2012 which people think is also an OLED






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What's the Samsung model number?

JimShaw 01-23-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scweb13 (Post 5711446)
What's the Samsung model number?

At this moment, there have been no pricing or models numbers announced that I know of only that they will be coming out in the latter part of 2012.

Rumors are they could go between $5,000-$8,000 per or possibly more. People with a lot of extra cash will pick them up first then in 2013 the prices will start dropping.

Eventually, OLED's will be almost ever TV sold.

This information was taking by watching the field reporters at CES on cable TV






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Wingman1977 01-23-2012 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VeryNew (Post 5627469)
Now s/he can juat bu checking my gallery.

Oh please rate while u're at if :) thanks

Sorry, I don't do that stupid rating crap.

scweb13 01-23-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JimShaw (Post 5711501)
At this moment, there have been no pricing or models numbers announced that I know of only that they will be coming out in the latter part of 2012.

Rumors are they could go between $5,000-$8,000 per or possibly more. People with a lot of extra cash will pick them up first then in 2013 the prices will start dropping.

Eventually, OLED's will be almost ever TV sold.

This information was taking by watching the field reporters at CES on cable TV






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Samsung's OLED was just a prototype and they haven't released much info on it other than sometime in later 2012. It also has RGB subpixels. I'm not sure how they solved the short lived Blue, but you can probably expect it to not last too long.

JimShaw 01-23-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scweb13 (Post 5712030)
Samsung's OLED was just a prototype and they haven't released much info on it other than sometime in later 2012. It also has RGB subpixels. I'm not sure how they solved the short lived Blue, but you can probably expect it to not last too long.

Watching CES they said the blue would last...
If the TV was on 6 hours a day would last 40 years or 30,000 hours




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Robert Zohn 01-24-2012 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by scweb13 (Post 5712030)
Samsung's OLED was just a prototype and they haven't released much info on it other than sometime in later 2012. It also has RGB subpixels. I'm not sure how they solved the short lived Blue, but you can probably expect it to not last too long.

You are correct. Blue OLED has a short lifespan. I did slightly prefer the pq on Samsung's OLED, but LG may have a better idea using only white OLEDs and colored filters to produce the color gamut.

-Robert

boulder_bum 01-24-2012 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JimShaw (Post 5711418)
No, Samsung, which I have read seems a little better than the LG, will also be out in 2012. Sony has their Crystal coming out also in 2012 which people think is also an OLED

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Sony's crystal LED is a prototype and a completely new technology. It's not OLED and it almost certainly won't be released in 2012.

Out of curiosity, who said the Samsung looked better than the LG?

HDTV1080P 01-30-2012 08:59 PM

Sound and Vision Test Report: Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD 3D LCD HDTV


A few select QUOTES from review:

“I won’t assume that everyone will know what I’m talking about when I drop the word “Kuro,” but longtime Sound+Vision readers may recall a line of high-end, and accordingly high-priced, Pioneer Elite plasma TVs that we heaped praise upon back in the day. (In this case, “back in the day” means circa 2008.) What set those TVs apart from all the rest was their near-perfect picture quality, which rightly put all other flat panels to shame.”

Bottom Line

“The Elite PRO-60X5FD’s overall performance easily counts it among the best TV options — if not best TV option — around.”

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-sharp-elite-pro-60x5fd-3d-lcd-hdtv?page=0,3

Wingman1977 01-30-2012 09:40 PM

Sony ditched the OLED tech back in 2009. LINK

Wingman1977 01-30-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV1080P (Post 5740766)
Sound and Vision Test Report: Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD 3D LCD HDTV


A few select QUOTES from review:

“I won’t assume that everyone will know what I’m talking about when I drop the word “Kuro,” but longtime Sound+Vision readers may recall a line of high-end, and accordingly high-priced, Pioneer Elite plasma TVs that we heaped praise upon back in the day. (In this case, “back in the day” means circa 2008.) What set those TVs apart from all the rest was their near-perfect picture quality, which rightly put all other flat panels to shame.”

Bottom Line

“The Elite PRO-60X5FD’s overall performance easily counts it among the best TV options — if not best TV option — around.”

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-sharp-elite-pro-60x5fd-3d-lcd-hdtv?page=0,3

It just edges the VT30. Not worth spending the extra few thousand more when it's only slightly better.

William H Pratt 01-31-2012 04:01 AM

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but longtime Sound+Vision readers may recall a line of high-end, and accordingly high-priced, Pioneer Elite plasma TVs that we heaped praise upon back in the day
This Poster makes it sound like 2008 was back in the mid 1900's at the Dawn of Television. Does this person think others have NO memory of Recent events. :rolleyes:


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