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Kurgen1975 11-27-2010 05:15 PM

A big Criterion day for me today

Videodrome arrived and i picked up America Lost and Found

greekak229 11-27-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurgen1975 (Post 4065573)
A big Criterion day for me today

Videodrome arrived and i picked up America Lost and Found

Um.

horseflesh 11-27-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4065582)
Did you pre-order Videodrome? If so, who from? I want to pre-order Army of Shadows. Wouldn't mind getting it a week early!

My Videodrome & Cronos both shipped on Thursday, the only downside being that they're a Christmas present from my wife to me so I won't be able to open them for another month :D
(from Axel Music by the way)

Kurgen1975 11-27-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4065582)
Did you pre-order Videodrome? If so, who from? I want to pre-order Army of Shadows. Wouldn't mind getting it a week early!

i ordered Videodrome from Axel Music as well

greekak229 11-27-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by horseflesh (Post 4065664)
My Videodrome & Cronos both shipped on Thursday, the only downside being that they're a Christmas present from my wife to me so I won't be able to open them for another month :D
(from Axel Music by the way)

I've never ordered from Axel Music, but do they usually just ship things a week and a half in advance?

retablo 11-27-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riff Magnum (Post 4065290)
For sure. Yeah, i have no idea what their plans are, hence the question to the Criterion geeks here at bluray.com. Did they ever release any Lynch on DVD? I just find it odd that no U.S. studio is releasing Region A BD's of his movies, that's all.

Lynch is not popular in the U.S., nor are his films, really. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they aren't really good in a financial sense for a company if they can't sell copies. I mean, Lost Highway finally came out on DVD just a few years ago, 10 years after it played in theaters (partly because October films went under, so the rights got shuffled around). I assume Blue Velvet and possibly Twin Peaks will hit blu sooner than later... maybe Mulholland Drive. The others, I wouldn't hold your breath, but I could be wrong.

I imported region-free copies of The Elephant Man and Wild at Heart, and both look pretty good barring a full digital clean up.

And Dune is out in region A... and ironically, that's his most "commercial" film.

Alkaline 11-27-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4065871)
Criterion would have zero problem selling David Lynch films. They've done all right with similarly dark, non-mainstream fare like Antichrist and Hausu recently. I think it's more to do with rights issues and Lynch's own preference to release his own work under his own specifications. It's more likely he'll just put whatever he has rights to out via Absurda/his website eventually.

Cmoooon...Hausu, dark?? It's downright whimsical. Just sayin.

stobbart 11-27-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4065871)
Criterion would have zero problem selling David Lynch films. They've done all right with similarly dark, non-mainstream fare like Antichrist and Hausu recently. I think it's more to do with rights issues and Lynch's own preference to release his own work under his own specifications. It's more likely he'll just put whatever he has rights to out via Absurda/his website eventually.

I agree. I think that Lynch has no control over studios releasing his stuff. But if Criterion got the license they would want to include him in the process. And Lynch is just impossible to work with when it comes to how he wants his films presented.

My teacher was Lynch's writing partner for years, writing Twin Peaks the TV show and film, and he tells me stories all the time about crazy Mr. Lynch.

So I think that it is more the prospect of letting Lynch basically control the release that CC is wary of.

greekak229 11-27-2010 08:08 PM

Seriously, screw UPS. It takes them an entire week for a film to even get to my house, when it shipped from only a couple of states over. Oh, wait, it still hasn't come in. Departed from Mass three days ago, I live in New Hampshire, and still haven't gotten my Modern Times in. Oh, I also ordered The Thin Red Line with UPS, so maybe I'll get that in a couple of months, if I'm lucky.

s00perd00per 11-27-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4066190)
Seriously, screw UPS. It takes them an entire week for a film to even get to my house, when it shipped from only a couple of states over. Oh, wait, it still hasn't come in. Departed from Mass three days ago, I live in New Hampshire, and still haven't gotten my Modern Times in. Oh, I also ordered The Thin Red Line with UPS, so maybe I'll get that in a couple of months, if I'm lucky.

Strange that your UPS is that bad. I've always received my orders with UPS on the specified delivery dates such as 2 days for Amazon and 3 for Barnes & Noble. Are your orders beyond the estimated delivery dates?

greekak229 11-27-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by s00perd00per (Post 4066259)
Strange that your UPS is that bad. I've always received my orders with UPS on the specified delivery dates such as 2 days for Amazon and 3 for Barnes & Noble. Are your orders beyond the estimated delivery dates?

For Modern Times, it said the estimated date was today. The Thin Red Line shipped, but there hasn't been information on the tracker for two days now.

retablo 11-27-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4065871)
Criterion would have zero problem selling David Lynch films. They've done all right with similarly dark, non-mainstream fare like Antichrist and Hausu recently. I think it's more to do with rights issues and Lynch's own preference to release his own work under his own specifications. It's more likely he'll just put whatever he has rights to out via Absurda/his website eventually.

Well, you think if that was actually the case, then his films would actually make money at the US box office.

http://www.the-numbers.com/people/directors/DLYNC.php

s00perd00per 11-27-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4066288)
For Modern Times, it said the estimated date was today. The Thin Red Line shipped, but there hasn't been information on the tracker for two days now.

You'll probably get Modern Times on Monday since UPS doesn't deliver on weekends. They also don't ship on Thanksgiving and Black Friday so that shouldn't count on the shipping estimate. The thing that sucks about the holidays is if you order right before one, it makes the wait even longer.

chetripley80 11-27-2010 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo (Post 4066303)
Well, you think if that was actually the case, then his films would actually make money at the US box office.

http://www.the-numbers.com/people/directors/DLYNC.php

I don't have the stats, but box office intake and home video sales can differ quite a bit. Lynch's films are the exact kind of cult cinema that flourishes on home video.

Both "Mulholland Drive" and "Inland Empire" played at the little arthouse cinema theater in my city for about a week each. Their release format is completely different than most "successful" theatrical releases. For arthouse/avant garde cinema, I'm sure Criterion would love to obtain the rights to release everything from "Blue Velvet" through "Inland Empire".

And seeing as "Blue Velvet" and "Wild at Heart" are both owned by MGM, I really hope Criterion gets a chance to release them.

rkish 11-27-2010 10:21 PM

BBS Set Review Is Up:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Americ.../14981/#Review

t4t3r 11-27-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 4066612)

Picked it up today, with the BN coupon around this weekend the in-store price is pretty decent. Can't wait to dive into this release :)

Yankees0222 11-27-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chetripley80 (Post 4066508)
I don't have the stats, but box office intake and home video sales can differ quite a bit. Lynch's films are the exact kind of cult cinema that flourishes on home video.

Both "Mulholland Drive" and "Inland Empire" played at the little arthouse cinema theater in my city for about a week each. Their release format is completely different than most "successful" theatrical releases. For arthouse/avant garde cinema, I'm sure Criterion would love to obtain the rights to release everything from "Blue Velvet" through "Inland Empire".

And seeing as "Blue Velvet" and "Wild at Heart" are both owned by MGM, I really hope Criterion gets a chance to release them.

Good point.... I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to see his films in the theater but, like myself, are unable due to their very limited release. I live in NYC where I can find pretty much any movie released and I was unable to find Inland Empire anywhere near me. I guess that begs the question "Do they release these films in such few theaters because people wont see it? or will people not see it becuse they dont have the opportunity to?" Like you said, These are the types of films that make most of their money on the home video format. Keeping my fingers crossed for a Mulholland Drive (One of my top 10 favorite movies of all time) and Blue Velvet blu release..... regardless of the distributor.

ksc2303 11-27-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222 (Post 4066714)
Good point.... I'm sure there are plenty of people who would love to see his films in the theater but, like myself, are unable due to their very limited release. I live in NYC where I can find pretty much any movie released and I was unable to find Inland Empire anywhere near me. I guess that begs the question "Do they release these films in such few theaters because people wont see it? or will people not see it becuse they dont have the opportunity to?" Like you said, These are the types of films that make most of their money on the home video format. Keeping my fingers crossed for a Mulholland Drive (One of my top 10 favorite movies of all time) and Blue Velvet blu release..... regardless of the distributor.

Lynch basically released Inland Empire himself and much of the time brought it screening to screening personally.

lDlisturb3d 11-27-2010 11:39 PM

So i was just randomly playing with my new camera and i thought of taking my most recent CC.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...4/DSC_0090.jpg

Cocophone 11-28-2010 12:05 AM

Got the last of my Barnes & Noble shipments in yesterday's mail

Blu-rays purchased in the latest sale.

Vivre Sa Vie
Breathless
Charade
The Red Shoes
The Thin Red Line

I really like the subtitles on blu-rays. So much better than the blocky subtitles on DVDs

The picture quality is fabulous on the Thin Red Line and my projector is only 720p.


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