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greekak229 01-04-2011 07:03 PM

Can I just say, next Tuesday will be a great movie day?

Army of Shadows, Once Upon a Time in America, and yes, even the great Social Network. Of course, I'm gonna check out Army of Shadows first because I've been anticipating that one for months. Not too interested in Robinson Crusoe on Mars however.

aggienader08 01-04-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4217144)
Can I just say, next Tuesday will be a great movie day?

Army of Shadows, Once Upon a Time in America, and yes, even the great Social Network. Of course, I'm gonna check out Army of Shadows first because I've been anticipating that one for months. Not too interested in Robinson Crusoe on Mars however.

Yes! Not to mention Dances with Wolves!!! The only bad thing is that I'm going to have to hold off on the Criterion releases most of this month since I've already preordered DwW and Social Network. :( The wife would kill me if I spent more money, but I guess I'm just delaying the inevitable.

aggienader08 01-04-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4217138)
It's not a great deal if many of the discs in the set don't play properly. It's just $20 wasted. There's a reason it's being sold for 84% off of list price on a random website.

Lol! I guess you're right. You certainly put it into perspective well. I wasnt really thinking too hard about it anyway. Rebecca can wait!

SpiderBaby 01-04-2011 07:13 PM

I just noticed March will have both Argento's Inferno and Clouzot's Inferno. Can't wait.

whbinder 01-04-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4217144)
Not too interested in Robinson Crusoe on Mars however.

Give it a chance. I can't say you'll like it, because I don't know your tastes, but it's not exactly what the trailer (as seen on the Criterion site) would lead you to believe. There's a lot of loneliness and contemplation of the prospect of being forgotten. You may actually dig it.

SpiderBaby 01-04-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whbinder (Post 4217217)
Give it a chance. I can't say you'll like it, because I don't know your tastes, but it's not exactly what the trailer (as seen on the Criterion site) would lead you to believe. There's a lot of loneliness and contemplation of the prospect of being forgotten. You may actually dig it.

Talking about Adam West things, I rather finally have the 60's Batman show on dvd.

TJS_Blu 01-04-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt
This is somewhat off topic, so all due apologies, but I was wondering if anyone on here could recommend good books/biographies on either Chaplin or Keaton. I figure there are a lot of fans of both on this list, so it would be a good place to ask.

Jefferey Vance - Buster Keaton Remembered & Chaplin: Genius Of The Cinema (also a nice one on Lloyd, one on fairbanks I haven't seen). Beautiful Stills.

The Silent Clowns by Walter Kerr is a wonderful book about Silent Comedies with, if I remember correctly, substantial bits on the big three and some of the others like Chase & Langdon.

These are pretty straightforward histories, not theoretical or interpretive kind of stuff, so if that's what you're looking for, better go elsewhere. Also, anything by Kevin Brownlow is a pretty good bet...don't recall reading anything specifically about Keaton or Chaplin. God, I wish they'd release Hollywood on DVD.

greekak229 01-04-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whbinder (Post 4217217)
Give it a chance. I can't say you'll like it, because I don't know your tastes, but it's not exactly what the trailer (as seen on the Criterion site) would lead you to believe. There's a lot of loneliness and contemplation of the prospect of being forgotten. You may actually dig it.

Take a scan at my collection and then see if you think I'd be interested. My taste is all right there. I do love most of what Criterion puts out, so perhaps.

ZoetMB 01-04-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt (Post 4216887)
This is somewhat off topic, so all due apologies, but I was wondering if anyone on here could recommend good books/biographies on either Chaplin or Keaton. I figure there are a lot of fans of both on this list, so it would be a good place to ask.

Keaton: The Man Who Wouldn't Lie Down (Limelight) by Tom Dardis and Buster Keaton (Paperback - Jul 1, 2004)

The classic Chaplin book is the biography by David Robinson. There's also a more recent book by Stephen Weissman which looks at Chaplin from a psychological perspective, concentrating more on his early years in poverty and its impact on his life.

blkhrt 01-04-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TJS_Blu (Post 4217241)
Jefferey Vance - Buster Keaton Remembered & Chaplin: Genius Of The Cinema (also a nice one on Lloyd, one on fairbanks I haven't seen). Beautiful Stills.

The Silent Clowns by Walter Kerr is a wonderful book about Silent Comedies with, if I remember correctly, substantial bits on the big three and some of the others like Chase & Langdon.

These are pretty straightforward histories, not theoretical or interpretive kind of stuff, so if that's what you're looking for, better go elsewhere. Also, anything by Kevin Brownlow is a pretty good bet...don't recall reading anything specifically about Keaton or Chaplin. God, I wish they'd release Hollywood on DVD.

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Originally Posted by ZoetMB (Post 4217351)
Keaton: The Man Who Wouldn't Lie Down (Limelight) by Tom Dardis and Buster Keaton (Paperback - Jul 1, 2004)

The classic Chaplin book is the biography by David Robinson. There's also a more recent book by Stephen Weissman which looks at Chaplin from a psychological perspective, concentrating more on his early years in poverty and its impact on his life.

Thanks for the tips, I will definitely check them out. It has been a while since I have had time to read about film, so I am looking for a wide range of different stuff--straight bio and more interpretive/theoretical. These all look like a good place to start.

Alkaline 01-04-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 4217138)
It's not a great deal if many of the discs in the set don't play properly. It's just $20 wasted. There's a reason it's being sold for 84% off of list price on a random website.

Well to be fair, there are accounts of people having sets with no issues. But a large number were affected.

ccfixx 01-04-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4216688)
Yeah, I've heard about these constant debates. I don't know. Being a Blu-ray Criterion collector, I feel weird buying a movie from another company, mostly because I just love Criterion, and I know they give us the top quality in releases.

First of all, do you realize how silly it sounds when you say what you've written above?

Secondly, you're doing yourself a great disservice by not, at least, support the Masters of Cinema region-free blu-ray releases released through Eureka Entertainment. They're even numbered like Criterion releases, so I'm sure you'll eat that up. Do remember, too, that the MOC division of Eureka only consists of about 3 or 4 people, so once you see one of their releases you'll be quite amazed by what such a small team of people can accomplish.

Here is this site's link to the MOC region-free releases. Just note that not all of the releases on that page carry the MOC banner. Some of the releases are directly released blu-rays from Eureka (i.e. Prince Valiant, Junebug, Wizards, etc.).

Not picking up City Girl, Sunrise, and Une femme mariée is crime, though. They're all region-free and perfectly playable on your North American Region-A Playstation 3. Just read the reviews, if you haven't already.

CC

ccfixx 01-04-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 4216659)
The same thing applies to the latest news about "M". I've got the CC version as well, but wonder how much of a difference in quality there is between it and the MoC version?

I have both the MOC and Criterion release of M so I can comment, but I think the DVDBeaver comparsion pics pretty much speak for themselves.

Criterion's is much darker because Criterion almost always does their own tweaking to the transfers, if possible... in this case, contrast boosting. We know, too, that both Criterion and MOC used the same transfer.

MOC has stated before that they do not have the funds or resources to do any extra manipulation to the transfers they're given. From my understanding, MOC puts on disc the transfer that they're given.

CC

blkhrt 01-04-2011 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 4217692)

Not picking up City Girl, Sunrise, and Une femme mariée is crime, though. They're all region-free and perfectly playable on your North American Region-A Playstation 3. Just read the reviews, if you haven't already.

CC

Hey CC, just out of curiosity, when you buy these do you usually get them through Amazon UK or somewhere else. I have had my eye on City Girl for a while, but I try to only order from Amazon UK when I want to buy quite a few things. Just curious if there are other good options.

greekak229 01-04-2011 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 4217692)
First of all, do you realize how silly it sounds when you say what you've written above?

Secondly, you're doing yourself a great disservice by not, at least, support the Masters of Cinema region-free blu-ray releases released through Eureka Entertainment. They're even numbered like Criterion releases, so I'm sure you'll eat that up.

Here is this site's link to the MOC region-free releases. Just note that not all of the releases on that page carry the MOC banner. Some of the releases are directly released blu-rays from Eureka (i.e. Prince Valiant, Junebug, Wizards, etc.).

Not picking up City Girl, Sunrise, and Une femme mariée is crime, though. They're all region-free and perfectly playable on your North American Region-A Playstation 3. Just read the reviews, if you haven't already.

CC

I have no real interest in buying from MOC if Criterion itself has it for me. I have Sunrise, and love it, and I'd be interested in City Girl. That's about it for me.

Woodstove 01-04-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoetMB (Post 4217351)
Keaton: The Man Who Wouldn't Lie Down (Limelight) by Tom Dardis and Buster Keaton (Paperback - Jul 1, 2004)

The classic Chaplin book is the biography by David Robinson. There's also a more recent book by Stephen Weissman which looks at Chaplin from a psychological perspective, concentrating more on his early years in poverty and its impact on his life.

I just picked up Edward McPherson's "Buster Keaton: Tempest in a Flat Hat" at Half Price Books, but haven't had the chance to read through it yet. May be worth checking out.

rockstarnati 01-04-2011 09:05 PM

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Wages of Fear

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Originally Posted by italy12 (Post 4215560)
BBS is great, but it is limited to a specific period. If you're ok with that, go for it!

However, for a more varied look at what the CC offers, you may try movies like Charade, Paths of Glory, Seven Samurai, Wages of Fear, Revanche, Bigger Than Life, The Third Man (although OOP), Close-Up, Everlasting Moments, and for one of the newer IFC dramas, I thoroughly enjoyed both Secret of the Grain and A Christmas Tale.

I mean, you really can't go wrong with any title. All depends on what you're into.

Thanks for the suggestions. :rock:

whbinder 01-04-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4217244)
Take a scan at my collection and then see if you think I'd be interested. My taste is all right there. I do love most of what Criterion puts out, so perhaps.

Well, I've got mad respect for that collection. If my guess is right, you wouldn't want to keep this movie, but I think you'd enjoy catching it once and kind of admiring that they did something decent out of a corny little project.

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BasicGreatGuy 01-04-2011 11:02 PM

Got "Chungking Express" today from Criterion. It came in the original packaging, so I will have to order the plastic case. Also got "Orphic Trilogy" today. Very nice set. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet. Roberto Rossellini's "War Trilogy" should be here tomorrow.


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