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iam1bearcat 01-08-2011 05:27 AM

i hate to be one of those people that asks, "is this a good Criterion?" and / or "do people like this movie?! (insert a billion different options for titles) but i've really been interested in picking up Che. and with my netflix account having some issues, i'll likely end up just blind buying it when i get paid next.

is it like a documentary more than a film? or just kind of like a biography that plays out a bit like a documentary or time line of the man's life? (a la The Assassination of Jesse James / Blow)

i'd also be curious if it has high replay value. as long as i don't hate it i won't mind adding it to my collection, but just curious to those who have seen it, if you've re-watched it from time to time or not.

thanks in advance folks :)

SpiderBaby 01-08-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 4233125)
I second this motion... and a fantastic intro song, as well.

Did you ever listen to the "The Director's Cut" album by Fantômas?

CC

No I haven't but will look for it. Now, how do I go about asking one to change my name to SpiderBaby? Do I have to PM someone?

SpiderBaby 01-08-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 4233151)
Believe it or not, I have never seen this film. I just thought it was a cool name that suits him.

Just looked and it's streamable on NetFlix.

Cool! Thanks guys! :D


It's been called "One of the worst films of all time".:rolleyes:

Um, directed by Jack Hill. Stars Lon Chaney Jr. and Sid Haig. And prob the cutest "mentally regressed" (because that is what the film says they are) psycho in Virginia played by Jill Banner. What's not to love?

Ite 01-08-2011 10:08 AM

Anyone getting Robinson Crusoe On Mars? Looks pretty interesting lol.

Guitar Joe 01-08-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by greekak229 (Post 4232715)


Me want!


I bought Shock Corridor on DVD, but I never got around to buying this one.

ccfixx 01-08-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMcNizzy13 (Post 4233392)
i just want some great movies and i know criterion is considered best.

The films aren't "great" because they're in The Criterion Collection. Criterion just distributes films; Criterion doesn't make films. The films are "great" because they're well-made with engaging story lines to each individual viewer.

Criterion releases many "forgotten" films from the major studios that they won't put the time or effort into releasing. Every film released by Criterion, obviously, can't be considered "great" to every person. Hopefully, though, you'll be able to discover more than a handful of films that you've never heard of and end up enjoying.

CC

greekak229 01-08-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar Joe (Post 4233807)
Me want!


I bought Shock Corridor on DVD, but I never got around to buying this one.

I'm more enticed to get Shock Corridor first, but there's no doubt I'll be getting The Naked Kiss sometime afterward.

larry47591 01-08-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jacobsever (Post 4233233)
You know how you can stream some of Criterion's films on their website for $5, and if you purchase that movie, you get the $5 discounted?

Well how awesome if theaters did the same thing? I absolutely hate spending $8 on a weekly basis to see a movie in a theater, only to turn around a few months later and spending ~ $20 on the blu ray release. I would love nothing more than to be able to show a ticket stub/receipt to a cashier at Best Buy/Barnes N Noble, and have the theater price discounted off the blu ray. Oh, how amazing life would be.

I wish that was how it worked. Would love to use the 20 my wife and i spent too see black swan on the blu-ray.

larry47591 01-08-2011 12:58 PM

Also Jon from criterion emailed me out of the blue to say he screwed up. For all mankind is not out of print. And he is sending me the booklet for free. Had to pay 5 for the last emperor booklet. Pretty good deal

ccfixx 01-08-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard (Post 4233676)
No I haven't but will look for it.

Do that. It's an album full of movie theme songs, including Spider Baby, played by Fantômas. If you don't know, Fantômas is Mike Patton (Faith No More, Tomahawk, Mr. Bungle), Buzz Osborne (Melvins), Trevor Dunn (Mr. Bungle), and Dave Lombardo (Slayer). It's a win-win combination.

Check this out! The song doesn't start until about the 1:34 mark, but I think it's fun watching Mike Patton orchestrate the rest of the band up until that point.

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard (Post 4233676)
Now, how do I go about asking one to change my name to SpiderBaby? Do I have to PM someone?

I would say PM one of the moderators/reviewers and see if they're capable of doing it, or if they'll even allow it. A worst case scenario would be that you have to cancel your current profile and then just create a new profile with the new name.

CC

Beta Man 01-08-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat (Post 4233427)
i hate to be one of those people that asks, "is this a good Criterion?" and / or "do people like this movie?! (insert a billion different options for titles) but i've really been interested in picking up Che. and with my netflix account having some issues, i'll likely end up just blind buying it when i get paid next.

is it like a documentary more than a film? or just kind of like a biography that plays out a bit like a documentary or time line of the man's life? (a la The Assassination of Jesse James / Blow)

i'd also be curious if it has high replay value. as long as i don't hate it i won't mind adding it to my collection, but just curious to those who have seen it, if you've re-watched it from time to time or not.

thanks in advance folks :)

It's quite entertaining, looks like something I could watch a few more times although I've only watched it in it's entirety once....

It's not a documentary, and the portrayal of the main character (who you probably already know about) is considered "very accurate" by some, and "completely fictitious" by others..... (in terms of character etc)

The other thing I can say.... is the film didn't try to change, nor support any pre-conceived notions of I had of Che going into it, so I found that to be a nice surprise.

Beta Man 01-08-2011 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ite (Post 4233782)
Anyone getting Robinson Crusoe On Mars? Looks pretty interesting lol.

I'm getting it.... can't wait!

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard (Post 4233676)
No I haven't but will look for it. Now, how do I go about asking one to change my name to SpiderBaby? Do I have to PM someone?

There is a thread in the feedback forum for you.....

http://forum.blu-ray.com/feedback-fo...e-my-name.html

jrmac2000 01-08-2011 01:13 PM

Sweet just preordered all of the January releases through B&N's sale. Saved nearly 40 bucks over Amazon

italy12 01-08-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 4234017)
Do that. It's an album full of movie theme songs, including Spider Baby, played by Fantômas. If you don't know, Fantômas is Mike Patton (Faith No More, Tomahawk, Mr. Bungle), Buzz Osborne (Melvins), Trevor Dunn (Mr. Bungle), and Dave Lombardo (Slayer). It's a win-win combination.

Are you a fan of Patton? If so, ever check out his other side projects, Peeping Tom or Lovage?

I'm going to have to check out Fantômas as well...

I see there's a track listing for Charade, The Godfather, Rosemary's Baby, Night of the Hunter, and freaking Twin Peaks: FWWM!!

Thanks for throwing this out there!

Beta Man 01-08-2011 02:36 PM

I watched "Paths of Glory" for the third time since picking up the Blu-ray..... I really would like to watch the "Storming of the Hill" over and over.... but I'm the type who can't watch a snippet of a film.... I've gotta watch the whole thing!

Der Spieler 01-08-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCurse (Post 4231860)
For those thinking of ordering Criterion movies from BN.com with the "3 for 2" promotion, here is a little something to think about:

I'm in Canada and I ordered 3 Criterions Blu-Rays from BN.com four days ago. The order showed, correctly, 2 movies at full price and 1 for free ($0). For some reason, I decided to cancel my order less than 10 minutes after ordering (a change of mind about one Criterion I wanted to replace with another) and canceled each item individually. First mistake...

The next morning, I received two e-mails from b&n stating that I couldn't cancel two of the items since they already entered the shipping process (Already? 10 minutes after ordering? Wow!). Okay, no big deal. I can live with these 3 Criterions...

But the hammer fell this morning! 3 days after ordering, I received a notice that my third item was successfully canceled! The FREE one!!! How convenient!

E-mail support...: Bla, bla, bla... We're too busy for you, please call us.

Phone support...: 25 minutes on hold (international long distance call, by the way) without being able to speak to anyone.

And then, a tought occured to me: Let's suppose someone order from them (doesn't cancel like I did) and B&N.com decide, for some obscure reason, to cancel an item that is supposedly "shipping in 24hrs" (like they did, many times during the last 50% sale), would the "3 for 2" promotion still applied or would that person pay full price for their 2 criterions? The answer frightens me...

Horror story. I know quite a few people that had a similar experience with B&N. Their customer service seems pretty shoddy.

ccfixx 01-08-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by italy12 (Post 4234186)
Are you a fan of Patton? If so, ever check out his other side projects, Peeping Tom or Lovage?

Yes, a fan... and I own most, if not all, of his output that he's released through his label, Ipecac. I haven't kept up with much music lately as I used to do, but I did recently pick up Mike Patton's Mondo Cane release. I hope you've check out Tomahawk, as well.

Tomahawk - God Hates A Coward

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Originally Posted by italy12 (Post 4234186)
I'm going to have to check out Fantômas as well...

I see there's a track listing for Charade, The Godfather, Rosemary's Baby, Night of the Hunter, and freaking Twin Peaks: FWWM!!

Thanks for throwing this out there!

The Director's Cut is the most straight-forward Fantômas album. Their other three albums each involve a different musical theme. You should, at least, enjoy this one particular album. Like you pointed out, it has songs from two films in The Criterion Collection.

Fantômas

CC

P@t_Mtl 01-08-2011 03:47 PM

Just saw the review for Robinson Cruseo On Mars, I haven't seen it in years so it will be very fun to see it once more on Blu-ray (I never got the DVD from 3 years ago for some reason I can't recall now)

I am also very happy about the new Fantomas movie (which is what everyone seem to be talking about) I completed the old silent serial during my Christmas vacation from Kino (been a while since I watched it). I do not recall much about the Fatomas of the 60's, I haven't seen or heard from them in a very long time (probably the 70's the last time I saw anything on that). Anyone as seen them?

keldons 01-08-2011 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Der Spieler (Post 4234257)
Horror story. I know quite a few people that had a similar experience with B&N. Their customer service seems pretty shoddy.

Their customer service via email didn't even work after Christmas. They just always responded with an email saying they were too busy to look at your problem.

ccfixx 01-08-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl (Post 4234349)
I am also very happy about the new Fantomas movie (which is what everyone seem to be talking about)

I'm pretty sure that italy12 and I are talking about the musical band Fantômas, P@t... not any film version. ;)

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