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capnnarcolepsy 01-21-2011 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior (Post 4287715)

Ok, I read it. I'm not sure what I was supposed to take away from it, other than it being one of the least pretentious sections of criterionforum I have come across. There's someone speculating it's OOP based on the "Amazon doesn't sell it so it must be OOP" list, someone who thinks Fox is anxious to put out another release of this (huh?) and someone who, logically, reasons that its either out of stock or a packaging issue. Sounds to me like our boards have more in common than just Criterion love. ;) I can only hope that they link to us every once in a while to help "prove" things, too.

To clarify, I'm not trying to be an ass about this. I could care less if it's OOP. I own the blu so I got no worries. I just can't find a single legit thing to support this or Chungking being OOP, especially when Criterion emphatically typed "No!" about Chungking, and it's the same situation.

Beta Man 01-21-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by capnnarcolepsy (Post 4288153)

To clarify, I'm not trying to be an ass about this. I could care less if it's OOP. I own the blu so I got no worries. I just can't find a single legit thing to support this or Chungking being OOP, especially when Criterion emphatically typed "No!" about Chungking, and it's the same situation.

More-so.... I love when something like this goes OOS on Amazon, and some other sites, etc.... and then the flood-gates open with people rushing here to say "I think it might be out-of-print..... I found a place that has it on the shelf for $37.99 so I grabbed it! Do you think it's OOP?"

Well.... if you're that eager to grab it.... why not do so when it's released, or during a sale etc.... I think people want to own something that is OOP either for the "Rarity" (which is silly) or the fact that they think they can sell it for a lot of money a-la' the days of "Salo"

I guess "OOP" really means "Overwhelming-Obsession-to-Purchase"

s00perd00per 01-21-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man (Post 4288194)
More-so.... I love when something like this goes OOS on Amazon, and some other sites, etc.... and then the flood-gates open with people rushing here to say "I think it might be out-of-print..... I found a place that has it on the shelf for $37.99 so I grabbed it! Do you think it's OOP?"

Well.... if you're that eager to grab it.... why not do so when it's released, or during a sale etc.... I think people want to own something that is OOP either for the "Rarity" (which is silly) or the fact that they think they can sell it for a lot of money a-la' the days of "Salo"

I guess "OOP" really means "Overwhelming-Obsession-to-Purchase"

So true. I think it's mostly resellers who are so eager about things being OOP. Like you said, if they're really interested in Chungking Express, which I think is an excellent film, why not buy it before it actually goes out of print?

blkhrt 01-21-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man (Post 4288194)
I guess "OOP" really means "Overwhelming-Obsession-to-Purchase"

Best line in the whole discussion, hands down!

kndy 01-21-2011 04:04 PM

Hey guys, I know some of you don't purchase DVD but the upcoming Criterion release of the Eclipse Series #25 - "Basil Dearden's London Underground" is fantastic!

A wonderful set and it was great to see the context of how Dearden covered hot, controversial topics in the UK at that the time.

As Cassavetes had "Shadows" in 1959 showcasing interracial relationships and Black women who look white, Dearden had "Sapphire" which was in response to the 1958 Notting Hill race riots in which a woman is found dead. Was it because she revealed herself to be not white but a half Black, half white woman?

"The League of Gentlemen" is also interesting as the US had "Ocean's Eleven" in 1960 feat. former WW2 soldiers planning a heist. Dearden's story features the deviants of WW2 who have not been able to fit in society after WW2 and are crooked or deviants in some way.

"Victim" is a very interesting story as homosexuality was a crime in the UK and it showcased how many gays were blackmailed in order to keep their "outlawed lifestyle" a secret.

And the final film "All Night Long" in which Dearden returns to focus on an interracial relationship with a White woman and a Black man ("Sapphire" was about a White man dating a half Black/half white woman who looked white) and a man who will do anything to destroy that relationship.

Anyway, I'll step down from my soapbox for now but I hope those of you who are looking for British cinema will check out this wonderful upcoming Eclipse Series release from Criterion!

PowellPressburger 01-21-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kndy (Post 4288431)
Hey guys, I know some of you don't purchase DVD but the upcoming Criterion release of the Eclipse Series #25 - "Basil Dearden's London Underground" is fantastic!

I am excited about the box set. I still own the Home Vision release of Victim on DVD. I would like to see Criterion release a Eclipse series set on BLU-RAY sometime. Just a straight HD scan/ transfer even if the print isn't the best. Most eclipse releases on DVD look really good print wise.

I still purchase the eclipse DVD sets though.. I may have to wait a few weeks before grabbing this one Feb 1st is a big release date with a few Best Buy exclusives like Heavy Metal, Out of Sight (Just a month before the original release date listed) and a bunch of other films.

TJS_Blu 01-21-2011 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kndy (Post 4288431)
Hey guys, I know some of you don't purchase DVD but the upcoming Criterion release of the Eclipse Series #25 - "Basil Dearden's London Underground" is fantastic!

This and Silent Naruse are two of my most anticipated targets for the next B&N sale!

TJS_Blu 01-21-2011 04:44 PM

Tip o'the hat to Beta Man, rec'd the Amazon GC email this AM!

jcs913 01-21-2011 04:55 PM

Beta, since I mentioned this yesterday, and like to give you more things to do, can we see if we can get someone to update the thread below. I don't think people mind who does it, as long as it is accurate. Will lead to less discussions like the one we have been having for days now. May also help people make a little money to get newer titles, as they go through their collections and sell away the ones they don't want on ebay or whatever. Should be stickied too, IMO.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mov...ie-thread.html

Beta Man 01-21-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs913 (Post 4288650)
Beta, since I mentioned this yesterday, and like to give you more things to do, can we see if we can get someone to update the thread below. I don't think people mind who does it, as long as it is accurate. Will lead to less discussions like the one we have been having for days now. May also help people make a little money to get newer titles, as they go through their collections and sell away the ones they don't want on ebay or whatever. Should be stickied too, IMO.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mov...ie-thread.html

Titan added the last title that was requested in the thread..... I don't see a reason why he wouldn't continue to update it, it's just that people quit sending requests :shrug:

I'd post up the "Updates" in that thread, or PM them to him directly.... if he decides he no longer wants to keep it current, then I'll be more than happy to add it to the "to-do" list.

repete66211 01-21-2011 05:18 PM

I ordered a replacement case a couple of months ago. They were on backorder. I just received an email telling me it's shipped. You know, just in case anyone was interested.

ShellOilJunior 01-21-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by capnnarcolepsy (Post 4288153)

To clarify, I'm not trying to be an ass about this. I could care less if it's OOP. I own the blu so I got no worries. I just can't find a single legit thing to support this or Chungking being OOP, especially when Criterion emphatically typed "No!" about Chungking, and it's the same situation.

I have the blu as well. I'm more worried about Attacking Defenses With The Shotgun Quarterback Trap being OOP ;)

jcs913 01-21-2011 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man (Post 4288703)
Titan added the last title that was requested in the thread..... I don't see a reason why he wouldn't continue to update it, it's just that people quit sending requests :shrug:

I'd post up the "Updates" in that thread, or PM them to him directly.... if he decides he no longer wants to keep it current, then I'll be more than happy to add it to the "to-do" list.

Beta, the problem with the updates from users is exactly what is going on with Chungking. I assume users sent titles to him that were not OOP and it was getting to be confusing. For it to be effective, 1 person needs to take ownership of it that has valid information on any title that is OOP.

EDIT- FORGET IT BETA, SOMEONE RENAMED THE THREAD. I POSTED IT BELOW. LESS WORK FOR YOU...

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mov...ml#post4135235

SpiderBaby 01-21-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kndy (Post 4288431)
Hey guys, I know some of you don't purchase DVD but the upcoming Criterion release of the Eclipse Series #25 - "Basil Dearden's London Underground" is fantastic!

It's still the best thing Criterion had announced for this year so far.

fdm 01-21-2011 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kndy (Post 4288431)
And the final film "All Night Long" in which Dearden returns to focus on an interracial relationship with a White woman and a Black man ("Sapphire" was about a White man dating a half Black/half white woman who looked white) and a man who will do anything to destroy that relationship.

I've had this on my radar for a while, somewhere along the line I got the impression there's some classic jazz buried in this one in some manner (Mingus and Brubeck that I know of). One case where no PAL speedup will be worth the wait.

Not to belittle the other titles by any means. Looking forward to them as well.

Beta Man 01-21-2011 09:31 PM

Broadcast News just dropped to $26.99 on Amazon..... Pre-order price guarantee is another "win" for me..... nice.

rezpekt 01-21-2011 09:45 PM

Eric Skillman teases us and talks about the desing of Sweet Smell of Success.

PowellPressburger 01-21-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man (Post 4289706)
Broadcast News just dropped to $26.99 on Amazon..... Pre-order price guarantee is another "win" for me..... nice.

My copy shipped out from amazon today but my copy of Eternal Sunshine didn't, usually they combine my pre order release day titles.

octagon 01-21-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rezpekt (Post 4289763)

Interesting article. While I appreciate good cover art it doesn't tend to play into purchasing decisions too often but this might turn out to be an exception.

Much like the Blow Out cover, this has me just a bit more jazzed about seeing the film again. The shots of the menu screens didn't hurt either.

PowellPressburger 01-21-2011 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rezpekt (Post 4289763)

Nice postthat confirms Sweet Smell will be released in a paper case form. I have to buy these locally I can't chance amazon sending me a crushed cover box.

I do love the artwork.


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