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Dosto 07-26-2011 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 5002376)
Do you recall where you bought it? I'm wary of ordering it online but everywhere I see it in person it's digipak. Would just like to avoid the need to buy a replacement case. Thanks!

I bought it on eBay.

Darkcritic 07-26-2011 06:16 AM

An uncle is going to the US in the next couple of days and I plan to ask him for one title I am really interested in, Leon Morin, Priest. Does anyone recommend this film? I know the BD is going to be out tomorrow so probably more opinion/reviews are coming soon but I would really like someone's else opinion in the film itself. I already own Army of Shadows if that helps :p.

chuckywang 07-26-2011 08:05 AM

Just viewed The Double Life of Veronique .... what an amazingly beautiful film. I think I'm in love with Irene Jacob (from 20 years ago) Wow.

Wildcat47 07-26-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wilky61 (Post 5002516)
Watched one of my CC blind buys today, Black Narcissus, and I guess I just didn't get it. I thought it was a dumb movie. The booklet glorifies the movie as though it's a magnificent depiction of repressed and unrequited emotions, but I didn't think that it really depicted much of this at all. I thought the plot and the characterizations were sparse... many characters are presented with little development over the course of a short movie. I was put off by the movie's filming style with the frequent dissolves and facial close-ups, and I was especially distracted by the rampant color flickering throughout the film that mostly affected blues (the sky) and whites (the sisters' garb and faces). 3/10, I will be selling this one.

It probably didn't help that I preceded it with a rewatch of Tarkovsky's dense and moody film Solaris earlier today. 9/10, that one. The transfer on the Criterion blu-ray looks magnificent!


What ya want for it? I've got 3 blus for trade or would consider buying for right price. My trades are listed in my collection.

BohemianGraham 07-26-2011 09:33 AM

Ugh, why does Criterion have to release so many interesting films? I thought I had my wishlist chopped down to 9 missing titles, but now it's closer to 30 because I decided to read up on all the films in the collection.:D I'm tapped out from the current sale, so here's hoping that the November Sale is going to happen.

zui 07-26-2011 10:38 AM

My favorite already released CC Blu-rays, in no particular order:
(I know these are 12 but I don't want to narrow them down to only 10...:p)

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There are some films left that I have yet to watch. (Play Time, Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence, Naked, The Music Room, High and Low) Already ordered some of them during the b&n sale.

TheDot 07-26-2011 10:50 AM

Any Tarkovsky fans checked out the Chris Marker documentary 'One Day in the Life of Andrei Arsenevich'?

Worth picking up?

Speaking of pick ups, my second (and final.....I hope) Barnes and Noble order has gone in, brings me up to 16 titles from the sale. Thank god it finished at the end of the month.

Went for....

Beauty and the Beast
High and Low
Pierrot Le Fou -been meaning to rewatch this, so may as well get this while it is OOP.
Paris, Texas
Yojimbo
Sanjuro
Hunger -late addition to the much mulled over basket, a film I was blown away by at the cinema and have meant to revisit.

On DVD...

Le Samourai -couldn't wait any longer for the Blu and couldn't resist at this price)
Hoop Dreams -wonderful film if I remember rightly and very cheap with 50% off and coupon_
Rossellini's War Trilogy -wanted a boxset from the sale, considered a few and then remember how much I love Bicycle Thieves, how great Rome, Open City was and how I wanted to watch more Neorealist films. Great looking, and seemingly stacked, boxset.

Spent more than I planned at the sale, but could have spent a lot more! Must have had half the collection in my basket at some point, nearly all the Blu-rays I don't own. Justified removing most by saving them to my wishlist and telling myself "It can wait til November"

P@t_Mtl 07-26-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Monty70 (Post 5002851)
I am a bit surprised how many people come to this board to say they dislike Black Narcissus. For my money the film is a masterpiece, perhaps the most beautifully photographed film I have ever seen. (The scenes during sunset at the films conclusion are utterly breathtaking) IMO, every aspect of the film's production is exemplary, from the acting, to the direction, to the set design. (and the story is a powerful tale of the age old conflict of faith versus flesh)

To each their own, but I really don't get this one. :confused:

I really enjoy Black Narcissus as well, Criterion made me discover it when I saw the name of Jack Cardiff attach to it. I like the story and cinematography but I can understand why it may not be as appealing for others as it may well be difficult to get attach to some of the characters in the story but it's only my opinion.

TJS_Blu 07-26-2011 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Monty70
I am a bit surprised how many people come to this board to say they dislike Black Narcissus.

It's the internets, Jake.

Banned User 07-26-2011 01:15 PM

I don't get the Black Narcissus hate either. Loved the movie. It had a haunting beauty to the whole thing and was beautifully filmed, but different people different tastes.

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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby (Post 5001744)
Making this list of my 10 fav releases of Criterion just brings it to my attention even more than it is, that "World Cinema" in Criterion is lacking and I have so many fav films from South America that makes this list look like poop. Anyways here is 11 (hard to knock down to 10, just think the 2 Godard are 1),

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There is alot of other things (I can put the 2 Godards' together and bring in Closely Watched Trains or Fists in the Pocket).

Man I wish Criterion would get the rights back for Blood for Dracula and release a Bluray. That movie cracks me up every time.. :D
Also speaking of Underworld. I'd love to see a Bluray release of Hawks Scarface. I still think its the best Mob movie ever made.
So much better then the remake IMO. Paul Muni is enthralling and unstoppable and George Raft flipping that coin created the stereotypical gangster image for decades to come. Until I watched Underworld I had no idea that the same writer was involved with both. So many things from Underworld were used in Scarface.

Beta Man 07-26-2011 01:24 PM

I watched Naked for the first time last night.... Very much enjoyed it, and watched some of the Neil LaBute interview when it was over.


I also watched Beauty and The Beast which I've seen numerous times, but this was the first time I elected to go with the Opera audio-track and I found it to be very enjoyable as well.

BohemianGraham 07-26-2011 01:31 PM

I made the mistake of looking at the loonie this morning, and orderd Blow Out and High and Low. No more now.:o

drbikeshorts 07-26-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckywang (Post 5003228)
I think I'm in love with Irene Jacob (from 20 years ago) Wow.

Get in line! :D

Beta Man 07-26-2011 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 5003812)
I was going to suggest they reduce their new spines and do more upgrades, perhaps a couple times a year if not every month, but they are basically doing 50/50 as it is. They are just never usually the titles I want them to upgrade most.


I don't have sales figures, but I would think Seven Samurai, The Seventh Seal, etc. would contradict this (or perhaps not :shrug:) but one theory is this:

I think we are in the minority based on purchasing habits..... Many people out there see the releases and buy what they don't have, and don't give the first-thought to the concept of "upgrading" so by announcing BDs of their more popular DVDs (like The Bicycle Thief) they immediately get a large portion of their customers who say "Oh... already got that one"

By releasing things like "Fat Girl" (which I love, but I realize it's polarizing) there may be many people who said "ahhh I passed on the DVD, so I don't have it in my collection..... I'm buying Blu-rays now, so perhaps I'll add this one to the collection now"

It's pretty odd in a way, but I think there are a fair number of consumers who think that way.

AgentOrange 07-26-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 5003418)
Anchor Bay had put out previous editions on DVD, but StudioCanal/Rialto are handling the current theatrical run of the new 35th anniversary print. Perhaps there is another Blu-ray edition in the near future, but I doubt it will be from Criterion.

It wouldn't have to be a Criterion for me, but the few titles that StudioCanal has already taken back and gotten out on blu-ray (Ran, Third Man, Le Pierrot Fou) apparently haven't worked out too well by comparison. So I guess that doesn't bode well for Man Who Fell to Earth either. If it's an "equivalent transfer" I would look at it, otherwise probably not. The issue for me when it's an (apparantly) inferior release, yet Studio Canal also charges Criterion-like prices for a few of these titles. It would be too hard to stomach paying $27 for a single disc as it is, impossible knowing Criterion already did a better job with it.

djkest 07-26-2011 03:29 PM

What's this about new spines?

I guess the following movies are the new cases:
M
Army of Shadows
Blow out

And this is an example of an old case:
Seven Samurai

Am I correct?
My 7S case was smooshed and creased, I am exchanging it at B&N soon because for that kind of money I feel like I need a pristine product. I like to take care of my stuff!

ccfixx 07-26-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djkest (Post 5004172)
What's this about new spines?

I guess the following movies are the new cases:
M
Army of Shadows
Blow out

And this is an example of an old case:
Seven Samurai

Am I correct?

You are kind of correct. The clear, plastic cases are what people are referring to as the "new" cases. The "old" cases were thin cardboard and were only part of 9 of the original Criterion blu-rays. Replacement cases, aka "new" cases, can be ordered directly from Criterion now for the original nine blu-rays that came with this "old" packaging. Here is Criterion's page for ordering those. If you look around the internet, I'm sure you'll find photos of the original packaging, if you haven't seen it already.

The multi-disc cardboard releases of Seven Samurai, The Night of the Hunter, etc. are the only option available for those titles because they have multiple discs and Criterion doesn't have a multi-disc plastic case for their blu-ray releases. There are also some single-disc releases with cardboard packaging, i.e. Breathless, Sweet Smell of Success, etc. These releases generally have thicker booklets which would not fit in Criterion's plastic blu-ray case.

AgentOrange 07-26-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 5004101)

I get what you're saying about people's habits, though. From the posts here it certainly seems many people who are interested in the Criterion films are willing to try whatever they put out on Blu-ray. I have no interest in owning them all or even necessarily even seeing them all. In my case, there are maybe a hundred Criterion titles I'd like to buy and I'd prefer to buy them on Blu-ray assuming they are ever going to come out on the format.

It's really silly because there could be plenty of new titles in the works that would appeal to me, and the Criterion DVD transfers are generally very good and I'm going to enjoy the film regardless, so Blu-ray isn't that important (:eek:). I don't know why I let Criterion's upgrade schedule cause me to hold off on buying stuff I want. During this sale I've bought 60% DVDs and 40% Blu-rays so I am slowly getting over it. :o


Well this is blu-ray.com
:p

I can tell you I definitely have a hard time picking up DVD's. I've already gone through my DVD collection and basically sold off everything I could (anything that didn't have some pathetic $.50 value, which sadly was about half my DVD collection). Obviously I also looked at keeping anything that isn't inevitable to come to blu-ray at all, but other than that I painstakingly got rid of everything I could via whatever avenues were available (i.e. amazon trade-in, selling on amazon/ebay, and trading to DVD2blu). I'm glad I did because the prices for DVD's just continue to go down, and in a few cases I salvaged $5-$10 for titles that might now only get $2 or less.

There are still a few Criterion I would look at because it might be years before they are available on blu-ray, some might NEVER be on blu-ray. Yet I still have a REALLY hard time pulling that trigger. I do think I'm going to end up getting the Nikkatsu Noire set though as long as the 20% coupon comes back, that's one that seems way out there or might never come to blu-ray...

aggienader08 07-26-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentOrange (Post 5004231)

Well this is blu-ray.com
:p

I can tell you I definitely have a hard time picking up DVD's. I've already gone through my DVD collection and basically sold off everything I could (anything that didn't have some pathetic $.50 value, which sadly was about half my DVD collection). Obviously I also looked at keeping anything that isn't inevitable to come to blu-ray at all, but other than that I painstakingly got rid of everything I could via whatever avenues were available (i.e. amazon trade-in, selling on amazon/ebay, and trading to DVD2blu). I'm glad I did because the prices for DVD's just continue to go down, and in a few cases I salvaged $5-$10 for titles that might now only get $2 or less.

There are still a few Criterion I would look at because it might be years before they are available on blu-ray, some might NEVER be on blu-ray. Yet I still have a REALLY hard time pulling that trigger. I do think I'm going to end up getting the Nikkatsu Noire set though as long as the 20% coupon comes back, that's one that seems way out there or might never come to blu-ray...

I gave up months ago trying to purchase every Criterion that was released for a few reasons:

1.) All the Criterion DVDs I've seen I own now, and don't plan on changing that.
2.) They release an average 4-5 titles every month on blu and if I purchased all of them, including ones I don't even know I'll enjoy, then I wouldn't have the funds to purchase other non-Criterion titles I want.
3.) I don't get a rush out of blind-buying a film I've never seen like some who desire to own the "complete collection" just for the sake of owning the Criterion name. (that's not a knock on those folks that do, I truly respect the name and the game, I just don't strive to collect every film in a collection of which I've only seen approximately 40% of.) I'll Netflix it, and if I like it I'll try to purchase it.
Example: I want to see The Naked Kiss and Shock Corridor, because I would like to add them to the collection, but I've never seen them, so if I watch and don't like, I won't buy. Plain enough.

With that said, buying any DVDs (Criterion or not) is against my buying rules, because I don't like to play with the chances of them rereleasing it in the future on blu. I've played that game and lost on multiple accounts, i.e. Fear and Loathing (which I just upgraded yesterday), Seven Samurai, M, and Metropolis. In fact, the last DVD I purchased was Grand Illusion, and I mean to keep it that way.

My rule is, that if there's any question whether or not they'll release it on blu, then I will stay at arms length away from it in the store. Speaking of, I need to find Breathless before this sale ends.

BohemianGraham 07-26-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aggienader08 (Post 5004365)
I gave up months ago trying to purchase every Criterion that was released for a few reasons:

1.) All the Criterion DVDs I've seen I own now, and don't plan on changing that.
2.) They release an average 4-5 titles every month on blu and if I purchased all of them, including ones I don't even know I'll enjoy, then I wouldn't have the funds to purchase other non-Criterion titles I want.
3.) I don't get a rush out of blind-buying a film I've never seen like some who desire to own the "complete collection" just for the sake of owning the Criterion name. (that's not a knock on those folks that do, I truly respect the name and the game, I just don't strive to collect every film in a collection of which I've only seen approximately 40% of.) I'll Netflix it, and if I like it I'll try to purchase it.

With that said, buying any DVDs (Criterion or not) is against my buying rules, because I don't like to play with the chances of them rereleasing it in the future on blu. I've played that game and lost on multiple accounts, i.e. Fear and Loathing (which I just upgraded yesterday), Seven Samurai, M, and Metropolis. In fact, the last DVD I purchased was Grand Illusion, and I mean to keep it that way.

My rule is, that if there's any question whether or not they'll release it on blu, then I will stay at arms length away from it in the store. Speaking of, I need to find Breathless before this sale ends.

I"m not rushing to buy every single CC release, but most of my purchases from the collection have been blind buys, based on user recommendations on here, genre, how similar the films are to other films in my DVD/Blu-Ray collection, and what I've read about the films through Wiki, IMDB, and other sites. There are quite a few in the collection I have no interest in, and outright refuse to buy. supposedly I'm some sort of unintelligent, uncultured idiot for avoiding those particular films, but that's another story. I've been lucky so far with my blind buys, but I am actively trying to watch more from my wishlist (currently 27 films) before I buy. :) There's just too many films that look good. I'm glad we get these sales though, because they help a lot.

Personally, I don't buy the CC DVDs because I find that they're still too expensive, especially in comparison to the price point on the BDs. I only own one CC DVD, and I bought that used. I've wanted to buy CC films that appeal to me for years, but I could never justify the price point. I'll still buy non-CC DVDs, however, especially if they're under5 bucks.:D


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