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melo4mvp 09-18-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportFanatic (Post 5223182)
Only multi-disc releases from Criterion are in digipack packaging now.

Amacord has one, but the booklet is huge.

scottpcusa 09-18-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CoopFilm (Post 5223161)
Yeah, and it is a digipak, but I thought all three of those were re-released in clear cases! But I can't find any proof of it. I also just got Chungking Express as a digipak too, and that one I'm positive I've seen a re-done clear case for. That is strange. Why were some of the digipaks re-released in clear cases and others weren't??

I'm guessing, but the reason "Breathless" is not in a clear case is because the booklet that comes with it is super-thick and wouldnt fit in a clear case.

horseflesh 09-18-2011 08:17 PM

Anyone interested in ordering earlier, the December titles are up for pre-order on Amazon at the usual $27.99 price.

drbikeshorts 09-19-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian (Post 5222611)
Revanche and Blow Out don't seem to get much mention in thread. In my opinion they are both amazing films and some of the best blu-rays in the Criterion Collection.

Anybody else have any remarks about other (blu-ray) films in the collection that seem to be under the radar or underappreciated?

I haven't seen Revanche, but Blow Out is well worth the effort and the blu-ray package they put together, particularly Noah Baumbach's interview with Brian De Palma, is pretty good.
I've been watching a lot of Criterion blu-rays (and DVDs) recently, so I plan to do a summary soon...

jcs913 09-19-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Yankees0222 (Post 5222802)
Are all the extras from the 2 disc DVD release of Salo on the blu ray? Because the page on here says the blu is only 1 disc :confused:

I really wish the price would come down too.... $35 is pricey :( I'll probably end up getting it anyway though

edit: so according to DVD beaver, it's not even in a digipack.... It's in a clear case. Not sure how I feel about that

Many of the original CC releases on dvd were in a 2 disc or some (like Algiers) are in a 3 disc digipack, as the film was 1 disc and the extras are on the other disc. This way CC could maximize bitrate on the feature since it was on a dvd. As you know, on blu-ray, they can easily fit the feature and the extras on 1 disc due to the 50gb disc size, as opposed to the 7gb dvd size. The only time Criterion does a digipack for a blu-ray release is if it has 2 discs, since Scanavo does not make the 2 disc cases yet or if it has a larger than normal booklet.

BaronVH 09-19-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by drbikeshorts (Post 5224159)
I haven't seen Revanche, but Blow Out is well worth the effort and the blu-ray package they put together, particularly Noah Baumbach's interview with Brian De Palma, is pretty good.
I've been watching a lot of Criterion blu-rays (and DVDs) recently, so I plan to do a summary soon...

Diabolique. By the way, I work in law enforcement, and I can say that the acting in Revanche may be the most realistic of any movie I have ever watched.

Darkcritic 09-19-2011 01:58 AM

Does anyone know who has the rights to Satantango by Bela Tarr? It would be great for Criterion to adquire the rights :rock:. Imagine it being Spine #600 :p.

CoopFilm 09-19-2011 02:11 AM

Off-topic, but Darkcritic, I'm in love with your avatar. Too bad none of the related films are on the Criterion Collection, come to think of it...

trombone dixie 09-19-2011 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by slickdamian (Post 5222611)
revanche and blow out don't seem to get much mention in thread. In my opinion they are both amazing films and some of the best blu-rays in the criterion collection.

+2

bugsy_pal 09-19-2011 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs913 (Post 5224298)
Many of the original CC releases on dvd were in a 2 disc or some (like Algiers) are in a 3 disc digipack, as the film was 1 disc and the extras are on the other disc. This way CC could maximize bitrate on the feature since it was on a dvd. As you know, on blu-ray, they can easily fit the feature and the extras on 1 disc due to the 50gb disc size, as opposed to the 7gb dvd size. The only time Criterion does a digipack for a blu-ray release is if it has 2 discs, since Scanavo does not make the 2 disc cases yet or if it has a larger than normal booklet.

This is incorrect - Criterion released the original 9 blurays in slim digipaks with slipcovers that slid vertically over the book part. They then made replacement cases available for those who wanted them, and have replaced the digipak versions with plastic case versions for subsequent pressings.

However, sinece that time, a number of digipak releases have come out, with either 1 or 2 discs. Amarcord and The Sweet Smell of Success are single disc blurays in digibooks with book-style slipcases. I think Breathless was also a single-disc slipcased bluray. Night of the Hunter was a 2-disc bluray in slipcase.

melo4mvp 09-19-2011 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bugsy_pal (Post 5224648)
This is incorrect - Criterion released the original 9 blurays in slim digipaks with slipcovers that slid vertically over the book part. They then made replacement cases available for those who wanted them, and have replaced the digipak versions with plastic case versions for subsequent pressings.

However, sinece that time, a number of digipak releases have come out, with either 1 or 2 discs. Amarcord and The Sweet Smell of Success are single disc blurays in digibooks with book-style slipcases. I think Breathless was also a single-disc slipcased bluray. Night of the Hunter was a 2-disc bluray in slipcase.

He mentioned that in his post. Don't know about Sweet Smell of Success or Breathless but Amarcords booklet is fairly large and probably wouldn't fit well in a clear case.

On another note. Should I watch Amarcord or Orpheus?

ravenus 09-19-2011 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by melo4mvp (Post 5224725)
On another note. Should I watch Amarcord or Orpheus?

If you want nostalgia with some bawdy Italian humor watch Amarcord. If you want a dream-like experience watch Orpheus :)

melo4mvp 09-19-2011 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ravenus (Post 5224895)
If you want nostalgia with some bawdy Italian humor watch Amarcord. If you want a dream-like experience watch Orpheus :)

I think I'm gonna go with Orpheus after the football game. But who knows maybe I'll just watch both :)

CheapChildren 09-19-2011 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by melo4mvp (Post 5224906)
I think I'm gonna go with Orpheus after the football game. But who knows maybe I'll just watch both :)

Amarcord is so good. You'll like both.

bugsy_pal 09-19-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by melo4mvp (Post 5224725)
He mentioned that in his post. Don't know about Sweet Smell of Success or Breathless but Amarcords booklet is fairly large and probably wouldn't fit well in a clear case.

On another note. Should I watch Amarcord or Orpheus?

Sorry to seem pedantic, but jcs913 said "the only time Criterion does a digipack for a blu-ray release is if it has 2 discs". That's the bit for which I was offerring up the correction - all in the spirit of goodwill and information-sharing, of course... :halo::halo:

He/she is right about 2-disc blurays being in digipaks though.

I'm not sure what Criterion's criteria ;) for deciding which single-disc releases get digipaks as opposed to plastic cases, but no doubt size of booklet comes into it (if not being the primary factor).

melo4mvp 09-19-2011 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs913 (Post 5224298)
Many of the original CC releases on dvd were in a 2 disc or some (like Algiers) are in a 3 disc digipack, as the film was 1 disc and the extras are on the other disc. This way CC could maximize bitrate on the feature since it was on a dvd. As you know, on blu-ray, they can easily fit the feature and the extras on 1 disc due to the 50gb disc size, as opposed to the 7gb dvd size. The only time Criterion does a digipack for a blu-ray release is if it has 2 discs, since Scanavo does not make the 2 disc cases yet or if it has a larger than normal booklet.


That was the part I was referring to. Anyways enough talking about criterion's for tonight. Time to go watch some:)

Darkcritic 09-19-2011 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopFilm (Post 5224579)
Off-topic, but Darkcritic, I'm in love with your avatar. Too bad none of the related films are on the Criterion Collection, come to think of it...

Thanks a lot :D! Yeah, let hope that "Bullfighter/Matador" hint a few weeks ago means it is something that will finally happen :ohnoes:.

In another note, just finished watching Salaam Bombay! and I was left completely amazed. An incredibly powerful drama with amazing characterization. So authentic and thought-provoking. In many ways, this films reminded me of Los Olvidados by Bunuel, situated in India instead of Mexico. Common themes are touched upon both and many others similarities can be found. Such an amazing "hidden" gem :rock:. I wonder if Criterion will release it sometime in the future. They already have Mira Nair's Monsoon Wedding in the collection (And in BD) and this would be an incredible fit along that one.

CoopFilm 09-19-2011 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkcritic (Post 5225204)
Thanks a lot :D! Yeah, let hope that "Bullfighter/Matador" hint a few weeks ago means it is something that will finally happen :ohnoes:.

I completely missed this! There was a hint at it??

Personally, I'd most love to see the films not available on dvd in the US yet...such as 'Tacones Lejanos' and 'Kika' (still need to see those two), but of course any of them would make me very, very happy.

melo4mvp 09-19-2011 05:52 AM

Just got done watching Orpheus. It was pretty good. It was my second Cocteau film. I think I liked Beauty and the Beast a little bit more though. Guess Amarcord is next:)

octagon 09-19-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian (Post 5222611)
Revanche and Blow Out don't seem to get much mention in thread. In my opinion they are both amazing films and some of the best blu-rays in the Criterion Collection.

Anybody else have any remarks about other (blu-ray) films in the collection that seem to be under the radar or underappreciated?

Bigger Than Life doesn't seem to pop up a lot and while that's half understandable it's a shame. At first glance it's pretty standard (and in a lot of ways it stays pretty standard after subsequent glances) but there really is quite a lot of 'there' there. It seems a little dated in the sense that it's not nearly as daring and subversive as it was at the time but even at that it holds up very well.

And it's absolutely gorgeous. The direction and cinematography are excellent to begin with but (DeLuxe, I think) color system they used really pops and the transfer brings that out very well.

I wouldn't put it on any 'you gotta get this' lists but it's very good.


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