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SammyJankis 10-12-2011 06:22 PM

So are the announcements this Friday or Monday?

italy12 10-12-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Indyjones (Post 5324835)
Does anyone know if Canada's Criterion releases are the same as the U.S.? Artwork and discs?

There is only one Criterion.

italy12 10-12-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyJankis (Post 5324892)
So are the announcements this Friday or Monday?

They said Friday, according to their fb post last Friday.

fkbrun 10-12-2011 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Indyjones (Post 5324835)
Does anyone know if Canada's Criterion releases are the same as the U.S.? Artwork and discs?

The artwork is bilingual, I believe that's the only difference there is. And I am not sure if that's for all their titles.

exolstice 10-12-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fkbrun (Post 5324926)
The artwork is bilingual, I believe that's the only difference there is. And I am not sure if that's for all their titles.

The only Criterion with bilingual artwork is The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

Leterface 10-12-2011 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby (Post 5324715)

Beaver says Island of Lost Souls is presumably in the public domain - so why the *!?K do they have to region lock EVERYTHING?

BluPix 10-12-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Leterface (Post 5325081)
Beaver says Island of Lost Souls is presumably in the public domain - so why the *!?K do they have to region lock EVERYTHING?

Apparently, Criterion prefers to cater chiefly to the North American (read: United States) market. I also wish region-free coding was adopted as standard by all the studios for all titles. There's certainly no technical hurdle against that.

g.schweet 10-12-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Leterface (Post 5325081)
Beaver says Island of Lost Souls is presumably in the public domain - so why the *!?K do they have to region lock EVERYTHING?

In case a company from the other regions wants to release it (Masters of Cinema, who were putting out a dvd around the same time, but has since delayed it to decide if it would be viable to do a dual format for the film).

blkhrt 10-12-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPix (Post 5325187)
Apparently, Criterion prefers to cater chiefly to the North American (read: United States) market. I also wish region-free coding was adopted as standard by all the studios for all titles. There's certainly no technical hurdle against that.

Don't forget that a release includes things other than the feature. Even if the movie itself is in the public domain, they still have to get the rights to all the supplements.

obscurelabel 10-12-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Leterface (Post 5325081)
Beaver says Island of Lost Souls is presumably in the public domain - so why the *!?K do they have to region lock EVERYTHING?

Unless someone cites a source to contradict me, I maintain that this is one of the pre-1948 Paramount titles that Universal bought in the 1950s, and that Universal maintains a valid copyright on the film.

Aside from that, as others have said, Criterion doesn't own their films (none that I know of anyway) so the region coding is usually dictated by the liscensors, who may have rights only for region A. And even if region coding isn't set by the owners of the film, Criterion may have a policy of region coding everything for consistency's sake.

KubrickFan 10-12-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by g.schweet (Post 5325209)
In case a company from the other regions wants to release it (Masters of Cinema, who were putting out a dvd around the same time, but has since delayed it to decide if it would be viable to do a dual format for the film).

Odd, because Masters of Cinema opts for releasing all of their Blu-rays region free, unless the studio they license from doesn't want to. If both studios release theirs region free, how can it hurt either of them? Unless one is inferior, but it would seem that that would give a company a bigger incentive to do better releases.

Indyjones 10-12-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fkbrun (Post 5324926)
The artwork is bilingual, I believe that's the only difference there is. And I am not sure if that's for all their titles.

That's what my concern was. I'm thinking about getting The Man Who Fell To Earth from someone in Canada, just wasn't sure if the Criterions over there get bilingual covers or not.

Leterface 10-12-2011 08:52 PM

Thanks guys for the region coding thoughts. Luckily I am region B and A. But for me, since my region B player is my main player it's allways a waiting game to see if I can get the Criterions somewhere from Europe. That is now the only thing that makes me tired.

Rodyon Raskolnikov 10-12-2011 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 5325464)
Odd, because Masters of Cinema opts for releasing all of their Blu-rays region free, unless the studio they license from doesn't want to. If both studios release theirs region free, how can it hurt either of them? Unless one is inferior, but it would seem that that would give a company a bigger incentive to do better releases.

Most MoC releases are locked to B. I think their last region-free title was The World, quite a while ago.

blkhrt 10-12-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 5325464)
Odd, because Masters of Cinema opts for releasing all of their Blu-rays region free, unless the studio they license from doesn't want to. If both studios release theirs region free, how can it hurt either of them? Unless one is inferior, but it would seem that that would give a company a bigger incentive to do better releases.

Keep in mind that the costs for rights also probably varies by region. I would think region free would cost Criterion more, which would probably limit the number of releases they could do. Of course, that might be offset by greater sales. And, of course, this is all just speculation.

g.schweet 10-12-2011 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 5325464)
Odd, because Masters of Cinema opts for releasing all of their Blu-rays region free, unless the studio they license from doesn't want to. If both studios release theirs region free, how can it hurt either of them? Unless one is inferior, but it would seem that that would give a company a bigger incentive to do better releases.

Well if both released region free, the company that get gets theirs out first obviously has the advantage.

GilliamsBrazil 10-12-2011 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fkbrun (Post 5324926)
The artwork is bilingual, I believe that's the only difference there is. And I am not sure if that's for all their titles.

Sort of pointless since there are no French subtitles on the discs. If anyone has a picture of one of these bilingual cases I would be interested in seeing it. (Not at all saying I don't believe you!)

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Originally Posted by Rodyon Raskolnikov (Post 5325546)
Most MoC releases are locked to B. I think their last region-free title was The World, quite a while ago.

Though The World is their latest region free release, MoC absolutely does not region code their releases unless they are reqiuired to.

DLizzle 10-12-2011 09:55 PM

I don't think Criterion has separate Canadian releases. I always assumed that's why they are so expensive in Canada, because they are imported from the US.

KubrickFan 10-12-2011 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodyon Raskolnikov (Post 5325546)
Most MoC releases are locked to B. I think their last region-free title was The World, quite a while ago.

Again, not because the guys at Eureka want to. Only because the studios want to.

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Originally Posted by g.schweet (Post 5325744)
Well if both released region free, the company that get gets theirs out first obviously has the advantage.

Not if the other released the better version. The company that releases theirs first might also have to work with source material that's not up to par, compared to a later release. At least it would be giving consumers the choice, instead of making it for them. I'm glad my BD player is region free, but I'm sure there are countless people who are frustrated because of the region locking.

ShellOilJunior 10-12-2011 10:35 PM

I'm going through my collection for 2nd views.

SECRET OF THE GRAIN is really an excellent release that doesn't get talked about much. Hafsia Herzi steals nearly every scene she's in :)


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