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SpiderBaby 06-25-2012 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shadedpain4 (Post 6112968)
So i finally gave in to Spidey's recommendations and ordered Despair from DeepDiscount. I was actually getting pretty excited about it. Then my package came from DeepDiscount and i opened it to find...

A copy of "Bee Movie".

Sigh...
Whenever you get the Fassbinder, hope you enjoy it. His first English language film, and most say very odd film. One of my favorite Fassbinder films (also get The Third Generation dvd if you haven't), Dirk Bogarde is awesome.

P@t_Mtl 06-25-2012 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BohemianGraham (Post 6111180)


I think it has rewatchability, but then, that's just me. :) It just seemed like last week was "let's pick at Danny Boyle! Why aren't people picking at Danny Boyle?" week, and this film seemed to come under fire quite heavily. I think Saul picked it up readily though, as to why:
Speaking for me there are a few movies that because of a certain way of ending, while being good movies I just can't see anymore.

Some example

The Sting

Seven

While the "surprise factor" is a bit different in Shallow Grave it is still hard for me to watch it again. It's a strange thing because afterall I know the endings of tons of movies but it seem those "surprise" ending are difficult for me. Even Citizen Kane I haven't seen in what must be a decade now

P@t_Mtl 06-25-2012 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisron (Post 6112842)
Just watched Zazie dans la Metro for the first time today and I absolutely loved it. Are there many fans of the movie here? I never see it mentioned when people recommend Criterion titles. Also watched Belle de Jour which I also liked a lot. :)
Count me in a a fan of Zazie Dans Le Metro. First it as a kid myself in the 70's and been a fan ever since

Banned User 06-25-2012 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl (Post 6113943)
Speaking for me there are a few movies that because of a certain way of ending, while being good movies I just can't see anymore.
Seven

While the "surprise factor" is a bit different in Shallow Grave it is still hard for me to watch it again. It's a strange thing because afterall I know the endings of tons of movies but it seem those "surprise" ending are difficult for me.
I understand where you are coming from, but for me "What's in the Box?" never gets old. :D

P@t_Mtl 06-25-2012 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Banned User (Post 6114015)
I understand where you are coming from, but for me "What's in the Box?" never gets old. :D
It's a pretty shocking ending even if I actually figure out what was happening before hand. I also have that very bad habit of getting "the surprise" long before it's revealed :D I still remember figuring out what "rosebud" was right at the start.

captveg 06-25-2012 10:11 PM
Being surprised the first time is nice, but if its a good movie I can enjoy it on subsequent viewings, whether it be Citizen Kane, Psycho, Planet of the Apes or any classic film with generally unexpected conclusions.

P@t_Mtl 06-25-2012 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by captveg (Post 6114122)
Being surprised the first time is nice, but if its a good movie I can enjoy it on subsequent viewings, whether it be Citizen Kane, Psycho, Planet of the Apes or any classic film with generally unexpected conclusions.
I am just weird :D

jcs913 06-25-2012 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby (Post 6113915)
Whenever you get the Fassbinder, hope you enjoy it. His first English language film, and most say very odd film. One of my favorite Fassbinder films (also get The Third Generation dvd if you haven't), Dirk Bogarde is awesome.
I agree 100% with CG, Despair is another great example of Fassbinder's themes and undertones. I did not think it was odd at all, just consistent with some of his other films. Dirk Bogarde has been in many films, but is fantastic in this. Klaus Lowitsch, who you will remember from World on a Wire is also in it and plays his part perfectly. His English is surprisingly very good in it. I was curious if he was fluent before he was in the film, or just 'winged' it?

Fallglimmer 06-26-2012 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by paul000 (Post 6112491)
I've been on the fence about that DVD for a few months. I've only seen a really bad quality stream, but I really liked the film and want it in my collection. I'd hate to buy it for $20 only to have an upgrade come out. Then I'd have to think about spending another $30 on the HD version. So, I think I'll wait until at least the end of the year. There are a lot of other films to get to in the meantime. What are the chances it would even get upgraded to Blu soon though?
I'm not sure, I think that DVD is from 2003ish so I'm not sure if the current transfer is "acceptable" for release now. I've heard no rubbings of a European release either, which would probably be the best sign that something was coming this way.

SpiderBaby 06-26-2012 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jcs913 (Post 6114502)
I agree 100% with CG, Despair is another great example of Fassbinder's themes and undertones. I did not think it was odd at all, just consistent with some of his other films. Dirk Bogarde has been in many films, but is fantastic in this. Klaus Lowitsch, who you will remember from World on a Wire is also in it and plays his part perfectly. His English is surprisingly very good in it. I was curious if he was fluent before he was in the film, or just 'winged' it?
Alot of "critics" pretty much put Despair, Whity, and Querelle (which is funny, being 3 that I love) down, I don't get it. I can't find one Fassbinder film I dislike (as I can with Godard). All of them flow one to the other, feeling connected.

starman15317 06-26-2012 03:20 AM
If Criterion releases The Blob on Blu I'll probably scream like a little girl. I'll be all over Rosemary's Baby (not like that, ya pervs!) too.

ianungstad 06-26-2012 04:56 AM
I'm hoping that they include the sequel as an extra on the new release. I haven't seen it and the reviews aren't great but it would make a great extra. I love it when they include short films or a bonus feature as part of the supplements. I don't see why Beware! The Blob! couldn't be on the release, it's also owned by Jack Harris and the Image disc is long out of print and is fetching over $100 bucks on amazon.

Darkcritic 06-26-2012 05:04 AM
I would like to know what happened to the Overlord upgrade. I remember a quote from Cooper saying a Criterion upgrade was on the way and coming very soon.

Sinthetic 06-26-2012 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisron (Post 6112842)
Just watched Zazie dans la Metro for the first time today and I absolutely loved it. Are there many fans of the movie here? I never see it mentioned when people recommend Criterion titles. Also watched Belle de Jour which I also liked a lot. :)
One of the funniest films I've seen in ages. It really is fantastic (if you are in the right mood).

blkhrt 06-26-2012 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 6116803)
Is there a reason why The Blob has been a popular prediction lately? Was it hinted somewhere?
I don't remember who, but someone posted on their blog or facebook that they were working on a new essay about the Blob for Criterion. Someone posted it here, but it might have been lost in the crash.

rkish 06-26-2012 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Dalek (Post 6116791)
Thanks -- I know you are a fan but I've been surprised at the love for Despair, frankly. It's not bad or anything, but there are easily at least a dozen other Fassbinder films better than it (maybe two dozen!) IMHO. And ironically, Querelle is the next one due out on Blu (haven't seen it yet, so no opinion).

This really isn't something I should worry about, but for all of the folks discovering Fassbinder through World On A Wire I think it's kind of a shame they are gravitating towards Despair just because it's one of the few RWF films on Blu-ray. It kind of confounds me why you would be excited about a new filmmaker discovery and then sit on your hands until perfectly good DVDs get upgraded to Blu-ray, especially when there is such a big, rich filmography waiting such as RWF's (Yes, I know, "it's BLU-RAY.COM"). Hopefully there will be lots more RWF in HD soon so I can get back to worrying about real problems.
Despair was a good film...but not my cup of tea. My wife LOVED it! Just a matter of opinion I guess. I'm considering making the plunge and getting Berlin Alexanderplatz during the sale.

Hendershot737 06-26-2012 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 6116849)
Despair was a good film...but not my cup of tea. My wife LOVED it! Just a matter of opinion I guess. I'm considering making the plunge and getting Berlin Alexanderplatz during the sale.
Have there been any hints of a blu-upgrade?...I've been holding out for it because I badly want this one. But if it looks like it won't...I may do the same...

Jr7936 06-26-2012 04:31 PM
I saw shallow grave for the 1st time last night and I have to say, it's my 2nd favorite boyle film behind trainspotting. some of the scenes I can see the inspiration for some of the things that happened in trainspotting

Gardenofstone10 06-26-2012 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr7936 (Post 6117613)
I saw shallow grave for the 1st time last night and I have to say, it's my 2nd favorite boyle film behind trainspotting. some of the scenes I can see the inspiration for some of the things that happened in trainspotting
Oh, Trainspotting, awesome memories watching that for the first time not knowing what to expect :rock:

Jr7936 06-26-2012 04:43 PM
I have probably seen trainspotting 10 to 12 times, also shown it my high school class back when, the scene where the baby was crawling on the wall, It was for a english class but i forget what for. I was shocked the teacher back then actually let me show it


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