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octagon 07-12-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bdmartin134 (Post 6180653)
Is The Double Life of Veronique a hard film to understand it's conveying themes? I've never seen it, but after reading through reviews on Amazon and such, I am really intrigued. I'll be popping over to B&N later to use a few coupons with the present deal and this film keeps grabbing my attention. I enjoy atmospheric films, recent one being The Tree of Life, so what do you think?

It's absolutely brilliant and while it doesn't beat you over the head with anything it's not some convoluted puzzle you need six commentaries to kinda sorta get an idea of where he was going.

It's gorgeous, it's rich, it's very engaging - can't say enough about it.

Monty70 07-12-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BohemianGraham (Post 6181100)
Well there goes my excuse for not importing. Once I get more cash I'll grab the uk release.

The UK release is excellent, one of my favorite imports.

One of the disc's supplements is a BBC radio analysis of the film that concludes that Kind Hearts and Coronets is the most subversive British film ever made. :D

billzfan 07-12-2012 06:39 PM

Thanks for all of the recommendations guys and gals. I ended up going over budget and picked up Fanny and Alexander, Three Colors, and Double life of Veronique.

So far I've picked up:
Seventh Seal
Breathless
8 1/2
Fanny and Alexander
Amarcord
Three Colors
Double Life of Veronique


The scary thing is that once I get paid next week I'll probably spend more, lol.

Darkcritic 07-12-2012 07:00 PM

We are getting closer to Kino's release of Korczak and I am wondering if there is anyone else who also wants to see more Wajda in BD? In fact, one of my most anticipated upgrades has to be his War Trilogy! Does anybody knows who has the rights to Man of Iron? How about getting that one and an upgrade to Danton in the same month?!

ShellOilJunior 07-12-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by billzfan (Post 6181556)
Thanks for all of the recommendations guys and gals. I ended up going over budget and picked up Fanny and Alexander, Three Colors, and Double life of Veronique.

So far I've picked up:
Seventh Seal
Breathless
8 1/2
Fanny and Alexander
Amarcord
Three Colors
Double Life of Veronique


The scary thing is that once I get paid next week I'll probably spend more, lol.

That's an A+ haul

billzfan 07-12-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior (Post 6181760)
That's an A+ haul

Thank you! :) These 50% sales are the best.

KubrickFan 07-12-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 6180079)
Spidey...time to go region free. ;)

Godard and Cassavetes films coming out in Europe...

Cassavetes in the UK:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9117

Godard in France:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9116

I know money is tight...believe me...I feel your pain. I just got a "mystery coupon" from B & N (which I think is for 30%) and might use it on the Czech New Wave set or some other Eclipse set (though I'm tempted to return my Berlin Alexanderplatz and "re-buy" it with the coup).

I'm going to assume that the Godard releases won't have any English subs on them?

I finally got around to seeing Sweet Smell of Success and I absolutely loved it. The actors are excellent in it. Funny to learn that Tony Curtis was apparently controversial for the part, since I couldn't see anyone else in it. Burt Lancaster is typically an actor that does ring a bell, but having no idea how he looks like (happens to me with Melanie Griffith too, for some reason). He looked terrifying. I still have to watch Criterion's release of Il Gattopardo, in which I just learned he's also in, so I'll have to watch that soon as well. They managed to have rapid fire dialogues without making it feel over the top, or too much over the top. The movie was also pretty dark, for a movie of that era.
It's funny, of the six or so Criterions I still have to watch, this one is one that I know I want to watch (since I bought it, I ought to :)) but for some reason it doesn't have the attraction that a Diabolique or Au revoir les enfants has. Still, it's a great movie, and I recommend it to everyone.
I do have a gripe, though. It seems to me that the aspect ratio should be 1.85:1, instead of the 1.66:1 Criterion chose. They tend to do that often with movies from those years (I think Paths of Glory and The Killing should be in 1.85:1 too) and it doesn't really seem necessary. Or does Criterion just follow the documentation that's available, and do I just want to see everything framed tighter than it should?

alexfa 07-12-2012 08:38 PM

I just got knocked on my butt by blind buy Summer with Monika. I love these 'life in a bottle' films. The ending, particularly the last shot, may be my favorite of Bergman's. It's funny a few publications have called the film's greatest value an exercise in lovingly photographing Harriet Andersson (who is certainly a great untamed beauty), because I found Ekborg's character to be one of Bergman's most clearly realized male protagonists... Oh, not to mention, the transfer was delicious. Nothing like tightly resolved grain across an entire frame.

BAMJoe 07-12-2012 08:45 PM

We are going to find out the October titles tomorrow right?

Hendershot737 07-12-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BAMJoe (Post 6182105)
We are going to find out the October titles tomorrow right?

Negative. I believe Criterion posted that it'll be Monday.

thecynical_drummer 07-12-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcritic (Post 6181641)
We are getting closer to Kino's release of Korczak and I am wondering if there is anyone else who also wants to see more Wajda in BD? In fact, one of my most anticipated upgrades has to be his War Trilogy! Does anybody knows who has the rights to Man of Iron? How about getting that one and an upgrade to Danton in the same month?!

Maybe OT but I have been curious about Wajda's films. Everything I read seems to point to movies I wouold like. Any recommendations where to start?

SpiderBaby 07-12-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rkish (Post 6180079)
Spidey...time to go region free. ;)

Godard and Cassavetes films coming out in Europe...

Cassavetes in the UK:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9117

Godard in France:

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=9116

I know money is tight...believe me...I feel your pain. I just got a "mystery coupon" from B & N (which I think is for 30%) and might use it on the Czech New Wave set or some other Eclipse set (though I'm tempted to return my Berlin Alexanderplatz and "re-buy" it with the coup).

Thanks for the info. La Chinoise I'm excited for, though my DVD is fine right now and I can see Koch Lorber releasing it on blu-ray down the road.

If anything, Fassbinder's Querelle just released by Gaumont is on my list to import first.

Lutz 07-12-2012 11:02 PM

^My Querelle blu is in the mail. Cost me more for postage than the disc (I probably should go slower when ordering in a foreign language to see if they have cheaper postage options).

James Luckard 07-12-2012 11:06 PM

So I picked up SHALLOW GRAVE and HAROLD AND MAUDE at the B&N 1/2 off sale. This is going to sound nitpicky, but I'm really unhappy about one thing.

Criterion has always used shrinkwap on their BDs, which came off easily. However they've started using HEAT SEALED plastic, like many other studios. The reason I object is that, like every other stupid studio, they heat seal the plastic on the SPINE side, over the name. This means that when you remove the plastic, it's all fused to the spine, and you have to spend 5 minutes ripping off tiny bits of plastic, and there are still little bits forever congealed into the actual case.

I love Criterion, but if they're gonna charge $40 retail for their discs, they need to be packaged with more care than Lionsgate $7 catalog titles.

I really hope they go back to shrinkwrapping and stop using heat sealed plastic.

retablo 07-12-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 6182067)
I'm going to assume that the Godard releases won't have any English subs on them?

I finally got around to seeing Sweet Smell of Success and I absolutely loved it. The actors are excellent in it. Funny to learn that Tony Curtis was apparently controversial for the part, since I couldn't see anyone else in it. Burt Lancaster is typically an actor that does ring a bell, but having no idea how he looks like (happens to me with Melanie Griffith too, for some reason). He looked terrifying. I still have to watch Criterion's release of Il Gattopardo, in which I just learned he's also in, so I'll have to watch that soon as well. They managed to have rapid fire dialogues without making it feel over the top, or too much over the top. The movie was also pretty dark, for a movie of that era.
It's funny, of the six or so Criterions I still have to watch, this one is one that I know I want to watch (since I bought it, I ought to :)) but for some reason it doesn't have the attraction that a Diabolique or Au revoir les enfants has. Still, it's a great movie, and I recommend it to everyone.
I do have a gripe, though. It seems to me that the aspect ratio should be 1.85:1, instead of the 1.66:1 Criterion chose. They tend to do that often with movies from those years (I think Paths of Glory and The Killing should be in 1.85:1 too) and it doesn't really seem necessary. Or does Criterion just follow the documentation that's available, and do I just want to see everything framed tighter than it should?

Curtis was known as a pretty boy and always had nice guy roles. He and Lancaster appeared together in Trapeze the year before to some success, and producers wanted to re-team them, but no one was ready to see either of them play suck lowlifes, especially Curtis.

As to the 1.66:1, that's the OAR. Criterion didn't just "choose" it. Whether or not you just prefer tighter compositions, the picture was composed for 1.66.

James Luckard 07-12-2012 11:27 PM

I keep seeing people mention THE TENANT as a hoped for title in October.

If Criterion does it, I hope they keep both the French and English audio tracks, as on the DVD. All the actors performed their scenes in their native languages, resulting in a film that is probably 30% English and 70% French, with extensive redubbing in both tracks.

The half of the film with Isabelle Adjani in it plays as unintentional comedy when she's (badly) dubbed into English. If I had to choose only one audio track, I'd choose the French. However I like the option to switch back to English for the American actors like Shelley Winters.

Unfortunately an audio track with everyone speaking in their native language would be against Polanski's creative wishes, but I still want both options.

blujazz 07-12-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard (Post 6182691)
However they've started using HEAT SEALED plastic, like many other studios.

This is not new. I remember agonizing over my copy of Wings of Desire i bought last year because of the hideous spine.

Yeah, OCD much. :)

James Luckard 07-12-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blujazz (Post 6182776)
This is not new. I remember agonizing over my copy of Wings of Desire i bought last year because of the hideous spine.

Yeah, OCD much. :)

They sell replacement cases for $3, plus shipping.

http://www.criterion.com/shop_produc...ay-amaray-case

I have a $10 gift certificate from replacing my defective THREE COLORS: WHITE disc. Think I may pick up a spare case or two to replace these damaged ones. Proudly OCD about my physical media here:)

It would be cool, though, if they went back to shrinkwrapping. I definitely intend to tell them this when I order my empty cases.

AgentOrange 07-13-2012 12:07 AM

Just got done watching "The Gold Rush" 1925 version, they did a pretty good job with this. I really enjoyed the extras on the blu-ray as well, even though they were relatively short. Next up I will watch the 1942 version, which will be new to me.

It was definitely much cleaner than I've ever seen before. But I did notice all kinds of weird "cuts" and jumpiness in scenes that I'm not sure were always present or not. But it might just be because of the cobbled together sources used for this remaster. Whatever I had seen before was probably from one of the shoddy 16mm sources they discussed in the extras, at least a "continuous" source but much more shoddy quality.

I also noticed a possible goof. No idea if it was something went out of order when this cut was pieced together, or if it was always there. During the "Chicken chase" inside the cabin, at one point Chaplin takes a knife off the table and hides it under the mattress. A few seconds later there is a shot focused only on Big Jim sitting, and the knife is visible still on the table. A minor thing, but kind of funny to just notice it now. :p

Darkcritic 07-13-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thecynical_drummer (Post 6182144)
Maybe OT but I have been curious about Wajda's films. Everything I read seems to point to movies I wouold like. Any recommendations where to start?

Probably with his War Trilogy which consists of Ashes and Diamonds, A Generation and Kanal. These are his very first films but pretty good examples of his style.

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Originally Posted by Roninblues (Post 6182324)

I have never seen Korczak so I am really excited. I am planning on importing Katyn (Which I have not seen) alongside Wong Kar Wai's Ashes of Time Redux ;). The rest of them I prefer to wait for R1 upgrades ;).


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