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octagon 07-26-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan (Post 6241413)
No, I don't mean that. I mean movies that try to be hip, or whatever you want to call it, and don't appear to be that way at all, especially when you look back. Like, when 80's movies give you women (and men) with great big perms and shoulder pads, or the "newest" Apple Mackintosh or Nintendo. Or 90's movies, also with terrible clothing, and the "latest" computers and huge cellphones.
I'm not saying that every movie that's set in the present day is dated, but there are movies that have become more dated than others. Do you really not see that?

He's got a point too, though. A lot of this has to do with our personal frames of reference.

The tech in something like Fail-Safe is obviously dated in the sense that it's obsolete but it's not dated in the same 'tied to a very specific time period' way that something like Gordon Gekko's cell phone might be.

Most of us don't look at hair or clothing styles before our respective times and think 'oh that bob is so late thirties' or 'Barbara Stanwyck looks okay but isn't Fred MacMurray's tie a little wide for the mid forties'.

We just think 'old' and things either more or less fit or they more or less don't.

It's really only when we have a direct frame of reference that we get the feeling that films are trying too hard to be trendy.

PowellPressburger 07-26-2012 11:47 PM

Madonna did a Live Youtube Feed (that is streaming) of her intimate Paris Promo Concert at The Olympia. She did a special remix version of Beautiful Killer (Mixed with Die Another Day) featuring classic films of Alain Delon as the "Beautiful Killer" footage included clips from films Le Samouraļ among others like Le Cercle Rouge and other Delon films I have not seen.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LoveLiveTV/featured

rkish 07-27-2012 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove* (Post 6240246)
Finally watched my copy of Down By Law. Now I wanna see more Jarmusch. Thinking of blind buying Mystery Train. I remember one of you guys recommended it and since then I've been watching clips and trailers and it looks like something I would like. Noone has ever really mentioned this title thou. What do you guys think of it?

I can't sum things up much better than most have already done. Very enjoyable and funny. A great film and one that I think you'll enjoy, if you liked Down By Law.

rkish 07-27-2012 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Banned User (Post 6240305)
I think we need a more detailed impression of what you liked so much about Down by Law. :)

As for Mystery Train I think its a great movie. The whole Memphis flavor is captured like no other film. The story is basically made up of 3 different stories following different people. A japanese couple on a blues pilgrimage, A Italian widow stranded in the city overnight and then a group of guys misadventure in the city. One of which is Steve Buscemi. All the stories intersect in a hotel where one of the night clerks is Screamin' Jay Hawkins. Definitely worth a purchase if just for Hawkins, but I can't compare it with Down by Law since I've never seen that. Although I'm extremely interested in getting it.

At the very least...two words. Robby Mueller. Some of the best B & W cinematography I have seen in any film. Simply gorgeous in blu.

And as far as Mystery Train...don't forget the great performance by the late Joe Strummer.

rkish 07-27-2012 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior (Post 6240317)
You should definitely pickup Mystery Train. If you enjoyed Down by Law then you'll love it.

Maybe Criterion will upgrade Night on Earth next?

I hope so...it's one of the first films that I saw of his in the theater during it's initial release. My wife turned me on to Jarmusch. We also saw Mystery Train during it's early rental period, though she had previously seen it in the Angelica Theater in NYC...where we both saw Night on Earth.

rkish 07-27-2012 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove* (Post 6240427)
I really liked the characters in the film. Especially Bob who was very entertaining. Tom Waits was also excellent (You could swear he was drunk the whole time). What I also really liked was how Jarmusch just kind of left the camera on and let the scene ride on. Some might feel like some of the scenes go longer than they should but I actually liked that. I'm not sure how much replay value it has but I know I will want to revisit it. Criterion's Blu ray is pretty great as well. The B&W cinematography looks amazing and it has some pretty good supplements including a audio Q&A with Jim Jarmusch. It was certainly a great blind buy for me and I dont regret paying 20 bucks for it after I got denied a coupon at BN! I'm looking forward now to checking out Mystery Train.

I really like the fact that much like directors like Ozu...he would hold on shots for a much longer period of time, than most modern directors.

Tin Drum 07-27-2012 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist (Post 6241321)

Have this on pre-order. Can't wait to own it.

Akijama 07-27-2012 01:39 AM

So,i contacted that Paul Maher Jr guy via Twitter (dude who wrote One Big Soul: An Oral History of Terrence Malick.Also,he claimed TM is involved in Criterion edition of Badlands) about if he knows any further specifics on release date or extras of the Badlands Blu-ray and he replied:

http://i.imgur.com/rPVlO.png

Could it be that either Warner or Criterion (:umm:) are working on a 3D Badlands Blu-ray?Or this guy is
[Show spoiler]full of shit
?:giggle:

dwane5 07-27-2012 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tin Drum (Post 6242397)
Have this on pre-order. Can't wait to own it.

care to divulge why?

CoopFilm 07-27-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dwane5 (Post 6242416)
care to divulge why?

Because it's a great film.

stobbart 07-27-2012 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove* (Post 6240246)
Finally watched my copy of Down By Law. Now I wanna see more Jarmusch. Thinking of blind buying Mystery Train. I remember one of you guys recommended it and since then I've been watching clips and trailers and it looks like something I would like. Noone has ever really mentioned this title thou. What do you guys think of it?

It's not blu, but you should check out "Fishing With John" for a fun filled night

thecynical_drummer 07-27-2012 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jayputter (Post 6239920)
It's not just you. I can get them to display in list form, but otherwise it will show 2-3 per page and omit the rest. Weird.

I'm having the same problem. I didn't ask because I thought it was something I had done to my browser settings.

oildude 07-27-2012 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove* (Post 6240246)
Finally watched my copy of Down By Law. Now I wanna see more Jarmusch. Thinking of blind buying Mystery Train. I remember one of you guys recommended it and since then I've been watching clips and trailers and it looks like something I would like. Noone has ever really mentioned this title thou. What do you guys think of it?

Mystery Train - colorful, quirky, Memphis, blues, Sun records, Elvis, wrapped around three great little stories.

You know what to do. :)

ShellOilJunior 07-27-2012 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oildude (Post 6242805)
Mystery Train - colorful, quirky, Memphis, blues, Sun records, Elvis, wrapped around three great little stories.

You know what to do. :)

Go down to Lansky's?

oildude 07-27-2012 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior (Post 6242810)
Go down to Lansky's?

Somewhere like that; I mean, you know it's like they say: the clothes make the man. I mean look at that damn hat on your head, you look like a damn mosquito-legged chimpanzee. :D

billzfan 07-27-2012 06:16 AM

As someone who adores independent cinema and risk taking directors, I am stunned to tell you just how much I hated Tree of Life. I had previously seen Badlands and thought it was a stunning film. But, The Tree Of Life, while beautiful to look at, is such an incomprehensible mess that it seems like such a waste of an obviously talented filmmaker. It literally feels like the actors made one film while the director was making another. The complete lack of focus is so apparent that I just could not understand how this received the critical acclaim it did. I know this isn't a Criterion disc but I know there's a lot of Malick fans here and just thought I'd share my thoughts. What else are these boards for? Lol

rock, stone 07-27-2012 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by octagon (Post 6241474)
He's got a point too, though. A lot of this has to do with our personal frames of reference.

The tech in something like Fail-Safe is obviously dated in the sense that it's obsolete but it's not dated in the same 'tied to a very specific time period' way that something like Gordon Gekko's cell phone might be.

Most of us don't look at hair or clothing styles before our respective times and think 'oh that bob is so late thirties' or 'Barbara Stanwyck looks okay but isn't Fred MacMurray's tie a little wide for the mid forties'.

We just think 'old' and things either more or less fit or they more or less don't.

It's really only when we have a direct frame of reference that we get the feeling that films are trying too hard to be trendy.

Try dating a professional costumer and that will be all. you. ever. hear.

However, the sheer number of Edith Head jokes available almost makes up for it.

octagon 07-27-2012 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rock, stone (Post 6243176)
Try dating a professional costumer and that will be all. you. ever. hear.

However, the sheer number of Edith Head jokes available almost makes up for it.

I almost made an Edith Head joke in that post;)

Fallglimmer 07-27-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by billzfan (Post 6243153)
As someone who adores independent cinema and risk taking directors, I am stunned to tell you just how much I hated Tree of Life. I had previously seen Badlands and thought it was a stunning film. But, The Tree Of Life, while beautiful to look at, is such an incomprehensible mess that it seems like such a waste of an obviously talented filmmaker. It literally feels like the actors made one film while the director was making another. The complete lack of focus is so apparent that I just could not understand how this received the critical acclaim it did. I know this isn't a Criterion disc but I know there's a lot of Malick fans here and just thought I'd share my thoughts. What else are these boards for? Lol

My issue with that film is that it's told at such a distance I simply didn't care about anything that was happening. The whole film is emotionally cold, which is only a problem when the film does actually want you to feel something....which I believe it did.

The film is actually more comprehensible than I was expecting, it's kind of fractured but there is a pretty clear narrative to follow.

P@t_Mtl 07-27-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billzfan (Post 6243153)
As someone who adores independent cinema and risk taking directors, I am stunned to tell you just how much I hated Tree of Life. I had previously seen Badlands and thought it was a stunning film. But, The Tree Of Life, while beautiful to look at, is such an incomprehensible mess that it seems like such a waste of an obviously talented filmmaker. It literally feels like the actors made one film while the director was making another. The complete lack of focus is so apparent that I just could not understand how this received the critical acclaim it did. I know this isn't a Criterion disc but I know there's a lot of Malick fans here and just thought I'd share my thoughts. What else are these boards for? Lol

It's funny because I felt for a Malick movie it's actually pretty much "in your face" and rather too easy to follow, it was like I was watching a Spielberg movie where he is spoon feeding everything to the audience :) (nothing against Spielberg of course) It was probably the easiest Malick movie to follow ever, for myself of course. As for beautiful, you are right of course it is beautiful as you would expect from any Malick movie. I don't know if you can call him a genius at cinematography but he would come close.


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