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ChadFL 03-03-2010 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger (Post 2979325)
whoa =0

Why would it be a surprise for a Criterion Blu-Ray to get a great review? I'd only be shocked if a Criterion Blu failed to get a great review.

What's with the low score for supplements is what I'm wondering. Criterion always includes a massive amount of supplements to their releases.

JediFonger 03-03-2010 08:06 PM

no schock... just deciding... whether i should still wait for the B&N sale.... or day1... man i vacillate back and forth a lot on the Kurosawas.

ccfixx 03-03-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL (Post 2979432)
What's with the low score for supplements is what I'm wondering. Criterion always includes a massive amount of supplements to their releases.

Yes, but neither "Yojimbo" and "Sanjuro" never had a wealth of supplements on their respective Criterion discs. It's a fair score for the amount of extras, and the score also depends on how worthwhile pro-b thinks the extras are for each disc, I would think.

And I don't think Criterion release always include a "massive" amount of supplements. I think Criterion includes what they can that they fill is worthwhile, but there are many discs without a "massive" amount of extras. I certainly wouldn't consider both "Hunger" and "Revanche" as having a lot of extras.

CC

JediFonger 03-03-2010 08:14 PM

it's nice to have... but even if there WERE no extras, i'd still grab the Criterion. i have no idea why people have an entitlement issue of all movies MUST have extras. i'd rather that be a separate purchase if they want and to do the bonus/extras professionally, not just slapped in marketing kit or afterthought.

blu-bry 03-03-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deciazulado (Post 2979207)

Dag nab it! Another expensive DVD I'm going to have to replace with a much better Blu-ray! Criterion is costing me a fortune!

Beta Man 03-03-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger (Post 2979325)
whoa =0

Those screenshots are beauties! A nice crisp/clear audio track....... Winner winner chicken dinner!

Codyblaze 03-03-2010 09:20 PM

Wow, more excited than ever! I actually have never seen Yojimbo, but I own the Criterion DVD of Sanjuro and the image leave much to be desired. Let's hope it's the same with Sanjuro. Only 20 days to go....

ChadFL 03-03-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Codyblaze (Post 2979836)
Wow, more excited than ever! I actually have never seen Yojimbo, but I own the Criterion DVD of Sanjuro and the image leave much to be desired. Let's hope it's the same with Sanjuro. Only 20 days to go....

Until last year I'd never seen a Kurosawa film period. Now his films are some of my all-time favorites. I've never seen Sanjuro and Yojimbo either so I'm really looking forward to them.

ChadFL 03-03-2010 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan1203 (Post 2975687)
Regarding Criterion's distribution deal with IFC Films, is there any chance Criterion might gains rights to The Wind That Shakes The Barley? It's a fantastic film, and I think Criterion could really do the film justice.

Does Criterion have rights to release any IFC film or just a certain number of them? Because I can think of a few other IFC films I'd love to see on Criterion Blu - 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days tops the list.

kndy 03-04-2010 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger (Post 2979508)
it's nice to have... but even if there WERE no extras, i'd still grab the Criterion. i have no idea why people have an entitlement issue of all movies MUST have extras. i'd rather that be a separate purchase if they want and to do the bonus/extras professionally, not just slapped in marketing kit or afterthought.

Because Criterion is the originator of releases have extras. Personally, Criterion has spoiled me with extras and scholar commentary. So, I tend to expect it. Granted, if it's an earlier release and if the extras are not there, I can understand it but if it's a newer release. I would be disappointed.

But yeah, I do purchase Criterion titles that have no extras of late...ala the Eclipse Series, Essential Arthouse and the the Rialto 10th.

Just watched "Dillinger is Dead"...now that is one hell of a bizarre ending. Have to watch that ending again. I'm not familiar with Ferreri films but heard and read many things in regards to "La Grande Bouffe". Now that would be an interesting Criterion release.

jacobsever 03-04-2010 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx (Post 2926043)
A region-free blu-ray player is your friend, jacob. The Sherwood player on Amazon is a clone of one of the Momitsu machines but priced quite a bit lower. For all the money you've spent on importing those Studio Canal discs, I imagine you could save up for one, no?

As for Saló... I have the UK release from BFI and I think it's quite lovely! I have about 6 total BFI blu-rays so far and none of them have let me down. The picture quality is great, the extras are abundant, and the booklets are usually pretty darn thick.

CC

I listened to your advice and purchased the Sherwood player.
I noticed that it's no long being sold/shipped by Ritz Camera anymore on amazon though.

I also ordered the BFI release of Salo, as well as a few other BFI's.

stobbart 03-04-2010 05:27 AM

Salo is a movie that I feel no need for an upgrade to blu...the SDVD that CC put out looks great upconverted on a ps3 and the packaging is just fantastic. Thats the one thing I miss about CC blus, the packaging is just all the same. The DVDs came in all shapes and sizes, and I know this was to accomadate more discs and booklets. I feel its just a shame that we lost that kind of uniqueness in the transition to blu. Like the Videodrome DVD, a VHS styled pull out was just genius.

Idioteque... 03-04-2010 05:47 AM

Meh I was just checking some prices on Criterion blus and they've all gone up to 30. :( I wanted to pick up Days of Heaven and Revanche

ccfixx 03-04-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Idioteque... (Post 2981589)
Meh I was just checking some prices on Criterion blus and they've all gone up to 30. :( I wanted to pick up Days of Heaven and Revanche

First of all, thanks for changing your avatar. I was getting tired of looking at Larry David's sullen face. ;)

And I'm sure the Amazon prices will drop again... and rise... and drop, etc. It's not like Amazon is not known for price fluctuations, ya know? Since I always pre-order the moment the titles go up on sale, the lowest the new titles go is usually $26.99. After the release date, though, is when Amazon starts playing games with the prices for the Criterion films.

CC

ShellOilJunior 03-04-2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL (Post 2979432)
Why would it be a surprise for a Criterion Blu-Ray to get a great review? I'd only be shocked if a Criterion Blu failed to get a great review.

What's with the low score for supplements is what I'm wondering. Criterion always includes a massive amount of supplements to their releases.

The way I look at it the ratings are arbitrary. Look more at what the reviewer says. For example, the reviewer of Yojimbo gave it 4.5/5 yet said:

"It is one of the most dramatic upgrades to emerge from them since they began releasing on Blu-ray. Bravo! VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED."

Also, he gave the supplements a 3/5 but failed to say why the score is average. Were there not enough extras or were the supplements provided not of highest quality?

I can't imagine how a CC blu-ray could get an average mark for extras when they usually provide a book and a least three pieces on the disc worth watching PLUS the extras are in 1080p. Can anyone think of a studio who actually transfers all the extras to HD?


All in all, this site's reviews are very good (albeit a bit mechanically written at times) in comparison to other sites. Criterionforum.org is the best place for CC discussion on the net but it's reviews are often lacking. If I had a $1 for every review I've read on the site where the reviewer admits to "not being into <name of director>" (like with 8 1/2)-- their reviews tend to be dispassionate.

TJS_Blu 03-04-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Codyblaze
Let's hope it's the same with Sanjuro. Only 20 days to go....

There's a review with screencaps up on DVDBeaver.

TJS_Blu 03-04-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChadFL
Does Criterion have rights to release any IFC film or just a certain number of them? Because I can think of a few other IFC films I'd love to see on Criterion Blu - 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days tops the list.


Here's the Dope. I wholeheartedly second your recommendation.

JediFonger 03-04-2010 12:36 PM

i put make way for tomorrow in last night, and couldn't stop watching it. ended up finishing it to very late hour... but it was well worth it =P. what an awesome movie.

not BD-related... but man =). Criterion=ftw.

Codyblaze 03-04-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger (Post 2982154)
i put make way for tomorrow in last night, and couldn't stop watching it. ended up finishing it to very late hour... but it was well worth it =P. what an awesome movie.

not BD-related... but man =). Criterion=ftw.

I wish that was a Blu release, may have to pick up the dvd since it seems it may be a while. I ordered a bunch of Bergman DVD's today since I'm impatient: Wild Strawberries, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly, plus the Criterions for Yi-Yi, An Angel at My Table, and Kind Hearts and Cornets...With my luck these will all be announced in the next run, but at least no more waiting!

JediFonger 03-04-2010 02:11 PM

the DVD is cropped for CRT's overscan... which is kind of ridiculous in these day and age.

that reminds me... have there been any Criterion that's B&W and 4.3? i can't quite recall if 7th Seal was it... or if it accounted for overscan...


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