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Volume11 05-27-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wilky61 (Post 3312703)
Anyway, I've seen like ten CC films that I would ever want to watch again and even fewer that anybody I know would ever want to watch again (e.g., my girlfriend, who is my primary film-watching partner).
l[/i]...

But maybe I'm just a cynical a-hole. I went through my CC phase, but now I don't see the point.

1. So out of 500 plus DVDs you only think 10 are worth watching again? I mean, Im not the CC collector nerd that has to have every release like others in this thread but I can easily pick at least 100 or so that are 100% worth watching again and have had a huge influence on cinema, even mainstream titles that you might prefer as more palatable.

2. CC are a third party who simply release films from other production companies. Saying you are "through" with the company as a whole seems ill informed. For as many "art house" films as they release they also have many titles that at one point in history were widely popular, especially foreign titles that may not have been released in the states but were huge titles in their native lands...meaning its not all generic art house films.

3. Who cares what your girlfriend thinks. If I only watched or bought films my wife liked I'd have a terrible collection consisting only of Working Girl, Zoolander, and Sex and in the City. To each his own, but using another person as a barometer for ANYTHING that elicits a personal response is an unfair treatment to any form of art, expression, or even mere entertainment.

fdm 05-27-2010 05:41 PM

Seems my shipment from last week, the one without a tracking number, was put on hold. For some reason this time around they decided that "Box", rather than "P.O. Box", was a bad address, and they were apparently just going to let it sit in limbo until I asked about it.

Funny, none of my previous orders, each using the very same address, had that "issue"... :banghead:

wilky61 05-27-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Volume11 (Post 3314308)
1. So out of 500 plus DVDs you only think 10 are worth watching again?

2. For as many "art house" films as they release they also have many titles that at one point in history were widely popular, especially foreign titles that may not have been released in the states but were huge titles in their native lands...meaning its not all generic art house films.

3. Who cares what your girlfriend thinks. If I only watched or bought films my wife liked I'd have a terrible collection consisting only of Working Girl, Zoolander, and Sex and in the City. To each his own, but using another person as a barometer for ANYTHING that elicits a personal response is an unfair treatment to any form of art, expression, or even mere entertainment.

1. I obviously haven't seen all 500, but yes that's what I said.

2. I took a Global Cinema class this past semester as the capstone to my film minor, and quite frankly it was the most boring film class out of the seven I took in college. I really don't care about national cinemas outside of the French (e.g., Abbas Kiarostami in Iran or the Dogma 95 movement in Denmark). Note that this is not the same as saying "I don't like foreign films."

3. To put it succinctly, I'm not too fond of watching films by myself. I originally typed this in a private message to Neo Reloaded but I guess I'll paste it here. This is mostly in response to his saying "I was in a 5-year relationship until pretty recently and I probably spent 3 of those years trying to get her to watch foreign or cerebral films and it was always a struggle."

"Haha, my girlfriend would never be interested in foreign/cerebral films, and it would be detrimental to try to force them on her. Still, we tend to watch a lot of "my" movies and hardly any of hers. This is partly because I have the power of Blu on my side and a fairly decent HDTV, but this is also because she generally isn't opposed to the films I show her while I'd be miserable watching hers (mostly Disney films and chick-flicks). As I mentioned in the CC thread, though, she's fine watching something like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, North by Northwest, Inglourious Basterds, Eastern Promises, Children of Men, Bonnie & Clyde, Cool Hand Luke, etc. because the entertainment value in the stories is fairly high and she knows most of the main players. Most people would consider the likes of these to be fairly quality and enriching films, and yet I only own a couple Criterions."

Volume11 05-27-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wilky61 (Post 3314370)
1. I obviously haven't seen all 500, but yes that's what I said.

2. I took a Global Cinema class this past semester as the capstone to my film minor, and quite frankly it was the most boring film class out of the seven I took in college. I really don't care about national cinemas outside of the French (e.g., Abbas Kiarostami in Iran or the Dogma 95 movement in Denmark). Note that this is not the same as saying "I don't like foreign films."

3. To put it succinctly, I'm not too fond of watching films by myself. I originally typed this in a private message to Neo Reloaded but I guess I'll paste it here. This is mostly in response to his saying "I was in a 5-year relationship until pretty recently and I probably spent 3 of those years trying to get her to watch foreign or cerebral films and it was always a struggle."

"Haha, my girlfriend would never be interested in foreign/cerebral films, and it would be detrimental to try to force them on her. Still, we tend to watch a lot of "my" movies and hardly any of hers. This is partly because I have the power of Blu on my side and a fairly decent HDTV, but this is also because she generally isn't opposed to the films I show her while I'd be miserable watching hers (mostly Disney films and chick-flicks). As I mentioned in the CC thread, though, she's fine watching something like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, North by Northwest, Inglourious Basterds, Eastern Promises, Children of Men, Bonnie & Clyde, Cool Hand Luke, etc. because the entertainment value in the stories is fairly high and she knows most of the main players. Most people would consider the likes of these to be fairly quality and enriching films, and yet I only own a couple Criterions."

I've also taken boring film classes and it never persuaded me to paint the entire history of foreign cinema, save two niches, with such a broad stroke. That stance, while well within your rights, seems incredibly narrow and reverse film snobbish. You should judge each and every film on its owns merits and nothing else. Sure, we all have bias and preferences but to just say CC or foreign cinema in the broad manner you are seems unfair.

And again, you should watch what you want and never let anyone influence a purchase or rental. Sure, if you have a movie date should you meet halfway or take turns with picks? Of course. But as far as personal collections and such I don't see your PM response to Neo as valid or pertaining to my point.

aox 05-27-2010 07:01 PM

I generally don't like Ugandan cinema, but I am open to any film someone thinks I should check out from our African neighbor.

NiCK Crush 05-27-2010 07:06 PM

are there pics of the By Brakhage Anthology packaging anywhere?

P@t_Mtl 05-27-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 3314792)
are there pics of the By Brakhage Anthology packaging anywhere?

that's the what I saw in the store Tuesday

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww264/Pat_Mtl/cc.jpg

ccfixx 05-27-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 3314792)
are there pics of the By Brakhage Anthology packaging anywhere?

Yes, go over to criterionforum.org for the photos. Here's the link.

CC

McCrutchy 05-27-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl (Post 3314821)
that's the what I saw in the store Tuesday

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww264/Pat_Mtl/cc.jpg

That's the original Vol. 1 DVD set.

aox 05-27-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy (Post 3314871)
That's the original Vol. 1 DVD set.

http://www.criterionforum.org/DVD-pa...collection/693

NiCK Crush 05-27-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aox (Post 3314877)

interesting, thanks for the link.

ccfixx 05-27-2010 08:10 PM

For those interested, DVDBeaver has their review/comparison up for "Mystery Train" now.

CC

P@t_Mtl 05-27-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by McCrutchy (Post 3314871)
That's the original Vol. 1 DVD set.

I saw the wrong thing then :o

retablo 05-27-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by also (Post 3312804)
I am never going to see Salo, because I never want to watch it. I appreciate its unique place in cinema history, but that doesn't mean I would get anything positive out of watching it

But it doesn't mean you wouldn't, either. Never know till you try.

zahinn 05-27-2010 09:39 PM

Bought my first Criterion.. Whooooooooooooooo ~!!!!!

8 1/2 ... :D:D:D:D

Sukuri 05-27-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by also (Post 3312804)
I am never going to see Salo, because I never want to watch it. I appreciate its unique place in cinema history, but that doesn't mean I would get anything positive out of watching it, Criterion or not.

So you have to gain something positive from watching movies now?

SpiderBaby 05-27-2010 11:21 PM

ChadFL, bentvalve, and retablo, I kept my word and gave you all some reps.:cool:


For us to do something, what is everyone's fav Italian directors that has a film in the collection?

ChadFL 05-27-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard (Post 3316055)
ChadFL, bentvalve, and retablo, I kept my word and gave you all some reps.:cool:


For us to do something, what is everyone's fav Italian directors that has a film in the collection?

I'd probably go with Frederico Fellini.

jimonee78 05-27-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard (Post 3316055)
ChadFL, bentvalve, and retablo, I kept my word and gave you all some reps.:cool:


For us to do something, what is everyone's fav Italian directors that has a film in the collection?

Toss up between De Sica and Antonioni.

SpiderBaby 05-27-2010 11:48 PM

I like Antonioni and Rossellini, with Ferreri (even though he just has 1 film in the collection, he is in the collection, so he counts) rounding out my top 3 favs.


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