Those mono's are 200 watts, but were talking about the UPA's, which are only 125 watts

Weren't you basing that off of your Klipsch ultra sensitive speakers though? They really needed nothing to dive them...

The MAs aren't really sensitive, but like the juice. I have been just so impressed with all of my audio listening lately.

I was told that makes the difference, the sensitivity. I just don't see how that makes a difference in what I went thru.

I guess when I try a amp with these speakers, maybe I will understand alot better.

That's cool - good thing, cuz maybe she might be amenable to "future" upgrades (6-12 mos. down the road).

What's her setup like?

The bedroom setup in my signature.

Sorry - I missed that (after having seen it only 100 times or so :rolleyes:)

Ace is right tho it's only going to give him 2 DB more as you need to double the watts to gain 3 db.

I'm not really worried about that as my LCR are rated to 300w and my surrounds are 180w. I don't think there's enough content in the surround channels to blow anything.

Which receiver do you think came the closest to your mono's?

A speaker with lower sensitivity will usually benefit more from a power amp, they require more power to reach the same SPL's. For instance my fronts are 93db, yours are 90db. If I was putting 100w through my speakers you would need 200w to reach the same SPL. It makes a huge difference running my Studio 20's ( 90db ) off of my Anthem MCA 50 compared to either my AVR or IA, they'll take quite a bit of power, the Anthem is 225wpc. If your happy with the performance your getting now, I would invest that money in some acoustic treatments before an external amp. You'll probably see a bigger gain in performance that way.

WoW!!!! Is it that much in the difference? I like the way you put it. I think I will have to look more into this.

I'm not looking to get an amp anytime too soon. It will be awhile before I start to enclose my theater and work on room acoustic.

I have alot of work to do around the house.

I must replenish my savings. I lost my mind and was all emotional distraught when all my stuff was stolen.

Replenish my savings and then save for what I want.

But since the MA's are 6ohms your actually getting something closer to 150-160watts out of the UPA's!

Good morning Steve! And congrats on the speaker purchase.

John

Thanks John. I cant wait to get them setup and be able to play them.

I'll bet! :). Be sure to post a video as well, in addition to some pics!

John

I have dial-up @ home, Im lucky to post pictures

Really?!!! I didn't know that:p

Because they are strictly for music and overkill for home theater purposes in a bedroom. Plus I save the tube life more so that way. I'm not looking for extreme home theater surround in my bedroom. Subtle. The living room speakers I didn't buy so that is how it goes. Congrats!

What kind of receiver matches up well with Dyn's? What does Dynaudio recommend to use with their speakers?

Dyn's typically benefit from separate amplifiers. I think also because most are 4/6ohm. I've been reading a lot of the avs dynaudio forum and very few seemed to power the speakers with a receiver. Octave & T/A seem to be the preferred amplification recommended in the United States by Dynaudio (as they are the distributors of them in the U.S. if I recall right).

It would be fair to say that Arcam pair well with it :D I don't know if Rhett agrees with my statement but I think he will.

There are plenty of component pieces that will match Dynaudio speakers. There is no need to limit oneself with pieces from T+A and Octave, just like the Totem and Arcam pairing.

John

John I agree with you Audition is a must and I plan to audition some tubes also with my Rainmakers.

the excites are the only speaker series they recommend to put on an AVR. when I mentioned to Emilios who works for dyn usa that i was thinking integra or marantz he said those would be very good pairings as they both sound less Japanesse then Onkyo and the other brands. I dont know why he mentioned onkyo, but he did.

The 3.4s I think were on a denon I bdont know if they were on a seperate power amp

I know you know how great they are for 2-channel, but with the right HT setup, they are equally as awesome... I know you would love it.

you should look at a lot more then just Arcam. I know that Totem uses them in their testing room or whatever, but there is so much other great gear out there. See if you can hear T+A somewhere.... I think they have an IA that is $2500 or so.

Check out Linn also. They make great gear.

I already know that but you seemed to have missed my point altogether.

no i got ur point

If I wasn't renting and sharing a living room setup then my dyns would be incorporated into the living home theater setup. If I somehow get a dedicated room for music/office the C1's will be high up on that list. Whenever I get to Chicago again I'm demoing the dynaudio lineup. I've only heard my 3.4s and the sapphires.

C1s are amazing speakers. certianly a step up over the 3.4s. but the 3.4s are very impressive also. The C1s have the smoothest top end i have heard of any brand at any price. The bass was a little better then the 3.4s, based on what they played on each speaker, the C1 had person playing a stand up bass, and it was solo stand up bass bridge that just was so rediculously deep, it sounded like a sub was in the mix. The bass on the 5.4s was a touch deeper, but the the C1s, IMPRESSIVE!

I have now heard the X36s, X16s, 3.4s, 5.4s and C1s, the dealer also has the Focus 110As, C2s and the Saphires.

having heard Canton, Dali and Wilson Audio, the C1s are still the best speaker I think I have heard, and they aren't even the most expensive speaker I have heard. I think that goes to the Wilson Sophias or Puppys, they look the same so I don't know what they were.

Your making me want to check out some Dyn's now. I've got to make a trip to Toronto in late Nov early Dec, I'll try to check some out while I'm there.

Bro I am open but so far Arcam is what has the edge over every Solid state amps I heard, I will try some tube amps next weekend and my budget is aobut 1800$, The Naim 5 i is 1500$ so it falls within my price range. I will even consider Bel canto D class amp and see if it's musical with the rainmakers.

I want to try some tubes also.

They are more then worth the try, they put out a really good slam but IMHO I prefer them with a good IA rather than Integra as I feel they are still very reveiling and lack a bit of detail seperation but I only talk based on what I heard altho they perform reallly well with any gear like Integra or Marantz.

Want to buy my Cary? Guy backed out tonight. Damn WAF.

I don't have sufficient funds now to buy your Cary I know Sean it would be an Awesome amp and you are selling it for about 45% of retail price but I'm so broke now that I baught my center :D I have a mortgage to pay as well and all other bills and finishing paying CC. 2500$ is a huge chunk of money.

900$ for a center was a much smaller bullet to bite. :D I don't have a WAF as we speake so I'm free to get what ever I want :D

you really should. It was tough listening to the C1s and then listen to the X16s right afterwards. You defintely felt like the sound stage shrank. And you lost some seperation. My buddy that was with me leaned over and said, these are the ones you want? And I said yea... he goes, they sound really good, not as much bass, but the highs and mids are very very nice and still retain lots of detail, I wish I would have known of this place before I started investing in Polks(RTi's). I said, well sell the Polks. and he just started laughing.

On the way home, he said, so youre inviting me over when you get them setup, I'll bring my smoker.

You know when you read a review of a speaker in Stereophile and they talk about the air around the singer or instruments, the C1s made every review I have ever read make sense. I was so impressed with this speaker, I don't think I will ever be able to stop talking about it. Its the most impressive speaker I have heard.

Next time I go to the dealer, I am gonna ask that he hook up the Saphires and the C2s. The C2s are the Entry level Tower to the C1s. My God, if I thought the C1s had a lot of bass, I can only imagine what dual tweeters and dual 6.7" drivers will sound like.

Not to mention, the C2s don't look the best online.... BUT man, in person, they are SO BEAUTIFUL.

Mr Callahan you can read what I wrote now on the Truth 6.3

I know you will. but I am with John, there is SO much good stuff out there. For tubes, man, when I first heard McIntosh, I thought they were a little closed in, when I heard the Octave and T+A tubes... I realized what everyone that loves tubes is talking about.

The Naim 5 i sounds almost like a tube, it's superb solid state in the price range. I will try tubes this coming saturday if I have time.

Good nite Steve, G2G, almost Monday here on the east coast and work tomorrow. :(

I'm enjoying that center bud. :D