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Old 07-16-2009, 06:35 AM   #1
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Okay that title may have been a bit over the top, but this has really irritated me.

So I ordered the Zack and Miri Make a Porno and it'll get here tomorrow. So I was looking through the internet for reviews of the extras, and found out that there's an extra called "Seth vs. Justin" and it's a 13 minute improv fest between the two in that hilarious scene in the movie @ the High School Reunion.

However, and this is what's got me angry, is that they split up the 13 minute improv clip into TWO SEPARATE ONES, on two different releases.

So the regular editions get half of it (seth vs. justin pt. 1) and the only way you can see the second half is to rent the Blockbuster release?????

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

This is about as shameless as I've ever seen. Double dipping is one thing, but having a major extra like that split up over two different editions of the movie (identical in every other way) is just insane.

In fact I don't think I've ever heard of a studio doing this, and can't believe that Kevin Smith would go for that. He's always been someone that's been a "fan first" kinda guy.

Throw in the fact that there is no commentary on here, and that's two strikes against a Kevin Smith release that normally gets ZERO complaints from me.

What is everyone else's take on this? Am I over reacting? I realize some people don't give a damn about the extras and all, and on most releases I'd agree, but Smith's releases have always been jam packed with really entertaining things, including documentaries on every aspect of making the movie that tends to run even longer than the actual movie.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:35 AM   #2
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Okay that title may have been a bit over the top, but this has really irritated me.

So I ordered the Zack and Miri Make a Porno and it'll get here tomorrow. So I was looking through the internet for reviews of the extras, and found out that there's an extra called "Seth vs. Justin" and it's a 13 minute improv fest between the two in that hilarious scene in the movie @ the High School Reunion.

However, and this is what's got me angry, is that they split up the 13 minute improv clip into TWO SEPARATE ONES, on two different releases.

So the regular editions get half of it (seth vs. justin pt. 1) and the only way you can see the second half is to rent the Blockbuster release?????

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

This is about as shameless as I've ever seen. Double dipping is one thing, but having a major extra like that split up over two different editions of the movie (identical in every other way) is just insane.

In fact I don't think I've ever heard of a studio doing this, and can't believe that Kevin Smith would go for that. He's always been someone that's been a "fan first" kinda guy.

Throw in the fact that there is no commentary on here, and that's two strikes against a Kevin Smith release that normally gets ZERO complaints from me.

What is everyone else's take on this? Am I over reacting? I realize some people don't give a damn about the extras and all, and on most releases I'd agree, but Smith's releases have always been jam packed with really entertaining things, including documentaries on every aspect of making the movie that tends to run even longer than the actual movie.
I watched that extra. It's not bad. I didn't realize I was only watching half of it though (unless the Canadian Blu got all of it). I know Weinstein has some exclusivity deal with Blockbuster and it's released by Alliance up here, but it's still unlikely.

I agree that the situation does suck though.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:36 AM   #3
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That is bad shit. Maybe they are trying to mimick the no morals standards of the porn industry?
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:32 AM   #4
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The Weinstein Company has had to cut all sorts of "creative" deals here and there to get as much money as they think they can to stay afloat. One of these deals is an exclusive-rental arrangement with Blockbuster, so only Blockbuster can get rental copies directly from The Weinstein Company. (Of course, mom-and-pop shops can go to Wal-Mart and buy a few copies to rent, though most of Blockbuster's major competitors will never carry Weinstein titles.)

Still...when you take a look at the movies that The Weinstein Company has released, you wonder how lucrative this deal is for either company. What's the market for these titles? Regardless of what you think of their artistic merits, from a financial standpoint, they're not very profitable.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:39 AM   #5
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I swear if they didn't have some foreign titles that I was interested in, and the deal with Tarantino and Smith, I'd never buy another Weinstein title after this.

They've got a long history of stupid crap.

They've butchered unknown numbers of brilliant foreign films, trying to dumb them down for America, hacking twenty minutes or so off, and throwing lame soundtracks on them that just make it look stupid (RE: Shaolin Soccer).

That was strike one.


This is strike two.


One more, and I may have to just search for specific titles in the pawn shops or second hand stores so Weinstein doesn't get a dime from me.

*hoping they don't screw up before Jackie Brown drops* lol
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Old 07-16-2009, 10:16 AM   #6
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Well, "Jackie Brown" remains in Disney's hands (most Miramax titles stayed with Disney).

I've seen "Vicky Cristina Barcelona" being sold as part of the "2 for $25" promotion at Blockbuster. Of course, you could always buy used Weinstein Blu-rays for low prices at Amazon.
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:20 PM   #7
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This isn't really such a big deal and happens all the time... If I wanted a Batpod with my Dark Knight I would have bought it at Amazon. If I wanted a Ironman face mask case I would have bought Ironman at HMV... If I wanted the extra 13 min of improv I would have bought Zack & Miri at Blockbuster. The list goes on and on, exclusives have been around since dvd and I would imagine even before that.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

This is about as shameless as I've ever seen. Double dipping is one thing, but having a major extra like that split up over two different editions of the movie (identical in every other way) is just insane.
My opinion has always been, and will always be, that the only folks at fault fo double-dipping are the ones who are repurchasing. I'm not going to fault the studios for making money off of these suckers. If someone will go out and purchase a second copy of a film they already own simply because additional bonus features were included...well...they fell for it.

All of this hoopla over cover art, cases, and bonus features is ridiculous in my opinion. As long as a I get a disc with top notch PQ and AQ...I could care less if it comes in a case with a plain label only displaying the film title and no bonus features.

Studios will continue to double-dip for as long as consumers keep falling for it. Making money off of the foolish...a solid business practice.
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Old 07-16-2009, 03:39 PM   #9
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the companies are not going to change their ways so you can only control one thing; yourself.

don't be a slave to your "wants".
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It's their way of selling and making a buck. If you don't like it, don;t buy into it and don't buy another one of their movies.
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Yeah, you've really been abused here...
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While I understand where the OP is coming from I must say that mediocre transfers and lossy audio are far worse crimes that have occured on the BD format. Why a studio would make half of a bonus feature an exclusive is beyond me, it just seems silly considering 99.9% of people out there either wouldn't even notice or really care.

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I want my blu-ray releases as complete as possible. I don't want to have to go to multiple retail outlets to manage exclusivities.
I do not care who has a batpod or a facemask or a steelbook. I just want the disc(s) itself to be complete.
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In fact I don't think I've ever heard of a studio doing this, and can't believe that Kevin Smith would go for that. He's always been someone that's been a "fan first" kinda guy.
Smith had no control over this. He posted an explanation and apology for it somewhere (it's been awhile...). It's a Weinstein deal all the way. An added incentive to get people to rent it from Blockbuster. Weinstein desperately needs any extra money they can get.
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Really? We're complaining that we didn't get MORE Seth Rogen?

It was a throwaway feature anyway and repeated a ton of the same dialogue.
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Really? We're complaining that we didn't get MORE Seth Rogen?

It was a throwaway feature anyway and repeated a ton of the same dialogue.
Thats funny. I have a feeling Seth Rogen will be the next Will Ferrell.
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He's well on his way. Except currently the movies he's in are funny, maybe not because of him, and possibly in SPITE of him, but they're funny by and large. Ferrell has never done anything that made me laugh, except his career choices of course.

Sadly, both of these guys have legions of fans.

That's America for you.
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Okay that title may have been a bit over the top, but this has really irritated me.

So I ordered the Zack and Miri Make a Porno and it'll get here tomorrow. So I was looking through the internet for reviews of the extras, and found out that there's an extra called "Seth vs. Justin" and it's a 13 minute improv fest between the two in that hilarious scene in the movie @ the High School Reunion.

However, and this is what's got me angry, is that they split up the 13 minute improv clip into TWO SEPARATE ONES, on two different releases.

So the regular editions get half of it (seth vs. justin pt. 1) and the only way you can see the second half is to rent the Blockbuster release?????

ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

This is about as shameless as I've ever seen. Double dipping is one thing, but having a major extra like that split up over two different editions of the movie (identical in every other way) is just insane.

In fact I don't think I've ever heard of a studio doing this, and can't believe that Kevin Smith would go for that. He's always been someone that's been a "fan first" kinda guy.

Throw in the fact that there is no commentary on here, and that's two strikes against a Kevin Smith release that normally gets ZERO complaints from me.

What is everyone else's take on this? Am I over reacting? I realize some people don't give a damn about the extras and all, and on most releases I'd agree, but Smith's releases have always been jam packed with really entertaining things, including documentaries on every aspect of making the movie that tends to run even longer than the actual movie.
I think the whole reason why The Weinstein Company is going downhill is because they decided to just have all releases got to Blockbuster and Blockbuster only. If another video chain wants films from The Weinstein Company, they would have to go to the stores and buy it themselves. Plus the way they've screwed over fans on several movies.
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