XBR 10 being discontinued.. XBR12>XBR8 - Blu-ray Forum

Petey2133 · 12-19-2009, 10:02 PM

I stopped at the Sony Style store today to take a final look at the ES-1000 HTIB setup b4 i purchased it and 2 sales associates were talking about the TV. After a few minutes of conversation, its apparent that the TV will no longer be getting delivered there, and they are phasing it out. Im told that the XBR8 technology will be used again and the XBR12 is going to surpass the technology and quality of the XBR8...

Can anyone confirm this information?

dhitoshi · 12-19-2009, 10:28 PM

At CES Sony will announce the XBR12 which will use LED's for each primary color and be 240Hz. The XBR12 will be offered in 40", 46", 52" & 60" and there is the possibility of a 32" model. The replacement for the V series will come out in January/February. If anyone wants a KDL40XBR9 they better decide soon since that is EOL (end of life), though the replacement will not be out until May.

SquidPuppet · 12-19-2009, 10:57 PM

Any idea of XBR12 pricing?

steve1971 · 12-19-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhitoshi

At CES Sony will announce the XBR12 which will use LED's for each primary color and be 240Hz. The XBR12 will be offered in 40", 46", 52" & 60" and there is the possibility of a 32" model. The replacement for the V series will come out in January/February. If anyone wants a KDL40XBR9 they better decide soon since that is EOL (end of life), though the replacement will not be out until May.

I wonder what the replacement will be for the V series? Just an upgrade again or what? Trust me my tv aint going anywhere soon but I am just curious what Sony is gonna do with the V series or if they will phase it out all together? Man technology is hard to keep up with! lol

REPLAY · 12-19-2009, 11:21 PM

I'm in for the XBR12 60", been waiting for something as good as the XBR8, but with a bigger screen. Will take the 60", but would have liked a 65" or 70".
I will be at CES, so will check with Sony on the XBR12.

coolmilo · 12-20-2009, 12:04 AM

This is actually good news if it happens and is affordable. The XBR 8 series was the closest thing to the quality of a Kuro offered by any LCD product and Sony has gone downhill with their LCD products released after the XBR 8. Hopefully the XBR12 series will support 3D and will offer killer blacks for a reasonable price. Finally, it would be idea if Sony will build-in support for ISF calibration.

Wish list summary:

Deep blacks
Supports ISF calibration
No motion blur
Affordable

Is this too much to ask?

Steelmaker · 02-20-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolmilo

This is actually good news if it happens and is affordable. The XBR 8 series was the closest thing to the quality of a Kuro offered by any LCD product and Sony has gone downhill with their LCD products released after the XBR 8. Hopefully the XBR12 series will support 3D and will offer killer blacks for a reasonable price. Finally, it would be idea if Sony will build-in support for ISF calibration.

Wish list summary:

Deep blacks
Supports ISF calibration
No motion blur
Affordable

Is this too much to ask?

Grand Bob · 02-02-2010, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REPLAY

I'm in for the XBR12 60", been waiting for something as good as the XBR8, but with a bigger screen. Will take the 60", but would have liked a 65" or 70".

I agree. Sony needs to start thinking big, there are a mass of displays available under 60". I would like to see them release something comparable to Vizio's 72" LED model coming out in August (and hopefully not much more expensive, although the $3500 price tag is going to make it tough).

Petey2133 · 12-20-2009, 12:44 AM

Sony has to do something. They are getting their butts kicked by these up and coming LED/Plasma sets that are extremely affordable, yet comparable in quality.

I see it this way, they may offer some of the best pictures out there, but the prices reflect a smaller group vs companies like Sammy, and Panny who attract more buyers bc of the price range.

The XBR10 is WAY OVERPRICED and does not impress me at all for PQ or sound.. I have seen 3 in person and various BD's in it and I am GLAD i didnt fork out the extra $3000.00 over my (NON BUZZING) 50" 850 series samsung.

I cannot wait for the XBR12 though, and can only hope sony starts publishing information so I can put it on my wedding registry!!!

MCT · 12-20-2009, 11:36 PM

XBR11....cool floating glass design.

Also Sony is supposed to be debuting an OLED set at CES as well. That is going to be something.

doctorsteve · 12-20-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCT

XBR11....cool floating glass design.

Also Sony is supposed to be debuting an OLED set at CES as well. That is going to be something.

I'm a big fan of the floating glass on my XBR4, glad to see it back...

carbonS54 · 12-21-2009, 07:25 AM

Triluminos LEDs for the XBR12? If so

Cisco in HD · 12-21-2009, 06:11 PM

I have a question what could the pricing be for the XBR12? Another 7 grand set??

Canada · 12-21-2009, 07:24 PM

Will the XBR 12 have the HDMI 1.4 spec, or only HDMI 1.3, if it's only 1.3 no sale.

saprano · 12-21-2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCT

XBR11....cool floating glass design.

Also Sony is supposed to be debuting an OLED set at CES as well. That is going to be something.

I was wondering if sony was going to bring the floating glass design back.

Looks nice.

ZoetMB · 12-24-2009, 05:38 PM

I don't get it...you really think Sony is going to release the XBR11 and the XBR12 within the first half of 2010? I don't think they ever released two lines in the same year before, have they? If I'm correct, why would they do it now?

I'm not surprised the XBR10 is being discontinued. The separate box and sending wireless to the monitor doesn't really make sense to me as long as you have to still have the power cable. It's just one more (HDMI) cable. I hope the XBR11/12 isn't going to work that way.

I was about to trigger a buy on a Pioneer monitor, but I was a little concerned about not having a tuner, in case I decide to drop cable. Then I thought I'd wait to see what happened at CES, even though it's unlikely I'd want to pay initial release prices for a new set. If Sony releases something exciting at CES (like a reasonably priced triilluminous), I'd probably bite for it once prices dropped a bit. Or, since XBR9 prices seem to be finally dropping to reasonable levels (I predict $1800 for the 52" by January and $1500 by March), maybe I'll bite, but I am not impressed by that set and I know I'll regret it later.

Or maybe a miracle will happen and Pioneer will get back into the business. Stranger things have happened. Although that wouldn't happen until at least January 2011 or we'd know about it already.

Semp1 · 12-25-2009, 05:37 AM

Sony releases multiple lines every year the xbr2/3 in 2006. The xbr4/5 in 2007. The xbr6/7/8 in 2008 and finally the xbr9/10 in 2009. 2010 will see the xbr11/12 in 60 inches finally and hopefully for less then $10,000. Let's not forget the xbr8 70 inch was and still is $20,000.

EMAGDNIM · 12-26-2009, 04:58 AM

Sony's pricing is killing me when it comes to the XBR series. I was after a XBR8 (it was on my short list of sets to buy). Once the price was below $4K CND, all that's left are the demo models or dealers who are holding on to new stock like the worlds going to end and want full list.

I got to take a look at the XBR 10 in the Sony Style showroom and from what I had seen it looked nice...

mmunro2003 · 12-26-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saprano

I was wondering if sony was going to bring the floating glass design back.

Looks nice.

This picture is fake, it was confirmed on AVS forum that its an old Singstar commercial picture.

FIDDYPOP · 12-26-2009, 10:56 PM

does anyone here know if the xbr 4 will be 3d capable? I am in no position to upgrade.

12-19-2009, 10:02 PM	#1
Petey2133 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:170 PS3 collection:2 Trading Score:6	XBR 10 being discontinued.. XBR12>XBR8 I stopped at the Sony Style store today to take a final look at the ES-1000 HTIB setup b4 i purchased it and 2 sales associates were talking about the TV. After a few minutes of conversation, its apparent that the TV will no longer be getting delivered there, and they are phasing it out. Im told that the XBR8 technology will be used again and the XBR12 is going to surpass the technology and quality of the XBR8... Can anyone confirm this information?

12-19-2009, 10:28 PM	#2
dhitoshi Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:1123 DVD collection:116 PS3 collection:55	At CES Sony will announce the XBR12 which will use LED's for each primary color and be 240Hz. The XBR12 will be offered in 40", 46", 52" & 60" and there is the possibility of a 32" model. The replacement for the V series will come out in January/February. If anyone wants a KDL40XBR9 they better decide soon since that is EOL (end of life), though the replacement will not be out until May. Panasonic TC-P50G20 Integra DTC-9.8 preamp for amps I have removed the preamp/amp-in jumpers on the back of the two AVR's and turned them into slave amps. Harman Kardon AVR-8000 (for L,C,R,SR,SL) Harman Kardon AVR-7000 (for SBL, SBR, Zone 3) Panamax M7500PRO & MB1000, PS3, XBOX360, Sony BDP-S570, Denon DVD-2910, Paradigm Reference-L/R: Studio 40, C: CC570, SL/SR/SBL/SBR: Studio 20, sub: Paradigm Ultracube 12

12-19-2009, 10:57 PM	#3
SquidPuppet Blu-ray Duke Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:270 Blu-ray reviews:27	Any idea of XBR12 pricing? Because Calamari Marionette Ph.D sounded pompous, that's why.

12-19-2009, 11:21 PM	#5
REPLAY Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:1	Xbr12 I'm in for the XBR12 60", been waiting for something as good as the XBR8, but with a bigger screen. Will take the 60", but would have liked a 65" or 70". I will be at CES, so will check with Sony on the XBR12.

12-20-2009, 12:04 AM	#6
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	This is actually good news if it happens and is affordable. The XBR 8 series was the closest thing to the quality of a Kuro offered by any LCD product and Sony has gone downhill with their LCD products released after the XBR 8. Hopefully the XBR12 series will support 3D and will offer killer blacks for a reasonable price. Finally, it would be idea if Sony will build-in support for ISF calibration. Wish list summary: Deep blacks Supports ISF calibration No motion blur Affordable Is this too much to ask? *"There's No Charge for Awesomeness - Po"*

12-20-2009, 12:44 AM	#9
Petey2133 Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:170 PS3 collection:2 Trading Score:6	Sony has to do something. They are getting their butts kicked by these up and coming LED/Plasma sets that are extremely affordable, yet comparable in quality. I see it this way, they may offer some of the best pictures out there, but the prices reflect a smaller group vs companies like Sammy, and Panny who attract more buyers bc of the price range. The XBR10 is WAY OVERPRICED and does not impress me at all for PQ or sound.. I have seen 3 in person and various BD's in it and I am GLAD i didnt fork out the extra $3000.00 over my (NON BUZZING) 50" 850 series samsung. I cannot wait for the XBR12 though, and can only hope sony starts publishing information so I can put it on my wedding registry!!!

12-20-2009, 11:36 PM	#10
MCT Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:474 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:1	XBR11....cool floating glass design. Also Sony is supposed to be debuting an OLED set at CES as well. That is going to be something. Big Tits Zombie -Action No synopsis for Big Tits Zombie. (don't think it needs one, fellas. Pretty self explanatory.)

12-21-2009, 07:25 AM	#12
carbonS54 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008	Triluminos LEDs for the XBR12? If so

12-21-2009, 06:11 PM	#13
Cisco in HD Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:West Palm Beach, FL Trading Score:3	I have a question what could the pricing be for the XBR12? Another 7 grand set?? Sony 55" EX710 Directv HR 20 Sony PS3 60GB - Blu-ray player Xbox 360 60GB Denon 1909 AVR Aperion Audio speakers: 5T Fronts 5C Center 4B Surrounds Bravus 8D Xbox 360 GT: MENTALYCHALNGED Currently playing: ?? (360) All controlled by Harmony One Last edited by Cisco in HD; 12-21-2009 at 07:06 PM.

12-21-2009, 07:24 PM	#14
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12-24-2009, 05:38 PM	#16
ZoetMB Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2009 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:134 DVD collection:24 Blu-ray reviews:3	I don't get it...you really think Sony is going to release the XBR11 and the XBR12 within the first half of 2010? I don't think they ever released two lines in the same year before, have they? If I'm correct, why would they do it now? I'm not surprised the XBR10 is being discontinued. The separate box and sending wireless to the monitor doesn't really make sense to me as long as you have to still have the power cable. It's just one more (HDMI) cable. I hope the XBR11/12 isn't going to work that way. I was about to trigger a buy on a Pioneer monitor, but I was a little concerned about not having a tuner, in case I decide to drop cable. Then I thought I'd wait to see what happened at CES, even though it's unlikely I'd want to pay initial release prices for a new set. If Sony releases something exciting at CES (like a reasonably priced triilluminous), I'd probably bite for it once prices dropped a bit. Or, since XBR9 prices seem to be finally dropping to reasonable levels (I predict $1800 for the 52" by January and $1500 by March), maybe I'll bite, but I am not impressed by that set and I know I'll regret it later. Or maybe a miracle will happen and Pioneer will get back into the business. Stranger things have happened. Although that wouldn't happen until at least January 2011 or we'd know about it already.

12-25-2009, 05:37 AM	#17
Semp1 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Hardware reviews:1	Sony releases multiple lines every year the xbr2/3 in 2006. The xbr4/5 in 2007. The xbr6/7/8 in 2008 and finally the xbr9/10 in 2009. 2010 will see the xbr11/12 in 60 inches finally and hopefully for less then $10,000. Let's not forget the xbr8 70 inch was and still is $20,000. Living Room:Panasonic TC-P65VT30, ONKYO TX-NR709, Polk TSI300(Fronts), TSI100(Rears), CS10(Center), Outlaw LFM-1Plus(Sub), OPPO BDP-103 Bed Room: TC-P55GT50, Denon 1913, Onkyo SKS-HT870 Blu-Ray: 800

12-26-2009, 04:58 AM	#18
EMAGDNIM Expert Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Toronto, Canada eh! Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:171 PS3 collection:30	Sony's pricing is killing me when it comes to the XBR series. I was after a XBR8 (it was on my short list of sets to buy). Once the price was below $4K CND, all that's left are the demo models or dealers who are holding on to new stock like the worlds going to end and want full list. I got to take a look at the XBR 10 in the Sony Style showroom and from what I had seen it looked nice... JVC DLA-RS55 4K Shift Projector, 100" EluneVision Reference Studio 4K Tab-Tensioned Screen New unfinished basement is currently under construction The new build thread! 64" Samsung PN64D8000 3D Plasma, Samsung BD-D5500 3D Bluray player Main Floor: Samsung UN55D7000 LED 3DTV, Samsung BD-D5500 Beadroom: Panasonic TC-P50ST30 3D Plasma, Panasonic DMP-BDT110 3D Bluray player Final Fantasy Black Cloud 160GB J-PS3, Xbox 360 Elite

12-26-2009, 10:56 PM	#20
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