Academy Awards - Transformers

[Blu Falcon]

Am I the only one disappointed that Transformers didn't win an Oscar for Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing or Best Sound Mixing? I thought it should've walked away with all three, or at least one of the previously mentioned.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Am I the only one disappointed that Transformers didn't win an Oscar for Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing or Best Sound Mixing? I thought it should've walked away with all three, or at least one of the previously mentioned.

Yes, you are the only one.

[clownface]

I thought they got jerked too! They should have gotten all three.

[kpkelley]

In all seriousness, I enjoyed Bourne Ultimatum much more than Transformers and thought that they would win those two anyway. As for special effects there was some stiff competition from AWE, but I never expected Golden Compass to win. All the buzz seemed to be pushing for Transformers, that one surprised me.

Congratulations to Once!

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Yes, you are the only one.

Speaking on behalf of those unimpressed with "Golden Compass" (and who thought, if the award was going to be about "natural" looking CGI, Transformers' highway scenes were better than Pirates' maelstrom battle), he isn't.

[Cplhicks]

I know this is the "unpopular" thing to say, but I was kinda glad to hear it got shafted. I personally thought Transformers was the most overrated movie in the last several years. The story was dopey (with a lot of dead end macguffins) the FX were blurry and you couldn't tell what was going on half the time when fighting, I could go on and on. I liked the original TFs and the animated movie, and wanted to like this, but it was just a mess as far as movies go. I haven't seen Golden Compass, but Bourne was a much better film. I am not trying to start a flame war here, this is just my personal opinion (which obviously others do not agree with).

[lch]

maybe they were watching transformer on hd-dvd
and halfway thru, they need to boil the disc

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Am I the only one disappointed that Transformers didn't win an Oscar for Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing or Best Sound Mixing? I thought it should've walked away with all three, or at least one of the previously mentioned.

No I thought it was the biggest upset of the night. It is especially disappointing for Kevin O'Connell, who has been nominated 20 times (20th being for Transformers) in the sound mixing category and once again, missing out on the golden statue. I can't believe those went to Bourne, what a crock.

The biggest surprise has to be Golden Compass winning. I think few people actually predicted that. I really liked the movie, but thought it was a long shot at best with Transformers being the lock.

[Blu Falcon]

It might just be my personal opinion, but I haven't seen or heard a movie that can top Transformers in visual effects and sound in 2007. There were some good movies out there, but anyone not blown away by the visual effects in Transformers has to be smoking crack. Yeah, Kevin O'Connell deserved to walk away with this one for sound. Poor guy. Oh well.

[tron3]

The 1982 Disney movie TRON got snubbed from even being nominated. The commitee said they cheated when they used computers. Yet, if you know how much hand calculation went into the film, etc, you will see it should have received an award for scientific achievment!

Can anyone think of a single sci-fi film to receive such high respect? Star Wars, maybe? How many since then?

[foots]

Originally Posted by tron3

Can anyone think of a single sci-fi film to receive such high respect? Star Wars, maybe? How many since then?

You are kidding right?

1980 (53rd)
The Empire Strikes Back -- Brian Johnson, Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Bruce Nicholson

1981 (54th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Raiders of the Lost Ark -- Richard Edlund, Kit West, Bruce Nicholson, Joe Johnston

1982 (55th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial -- Carlo Rambaldi, Dennis Muren, Kenneth F. Smith

1983 (56th)
SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD (Visual Effects)
Return of the Jedi -- Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Ken Ralston, Phil Tippett

1984 (57th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom -- Dennis Muren, Michael McAlister, Lorne Peterson, George Gibbs

1985 (58th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Cocoon -- Ken Ralston, Ralph McQuarrie, Scott Farrar, David Berry

1986 (59th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Aliens -- Robert Skotak, Stan Winston, John Richardson, Suzanne Benson

1987 (60th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Innerspace -- Dennis Muren, William George, Harley Jessup, Kenneth Smith

1988 (61st)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Who Framed Roger Rabbit -- Ken Ralston, Richard Williams, Edward Jones, George Gibbs

1989 (62nd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Abyss -- John Bruno, Dennis Muren, Hoyt Yeatman, Dennis Skotak

1990 (63rd)
SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD (Visual Effects)
Total Recall -- Eric Brevig, Rob Bottin, Tim McGovern, Alex Funke

1991 (64th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Terminator 2: Judgment Day -- Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Gene Warren, Jr., Robert Skotak

1992 (65th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Death Becomes Her -- Ken Ralston, Doug Chiang, Doug Smythe, Tom Woodruff, Jr.

1993 (66th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Jurassic Park -- Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Phil Tippett, Michael Lantieri

1994 (67th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Forrest Gump -- Ken Ralston, George Murphy, Stephen Rosenbaum, Allen Hall

1995 (68th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Babe -- Scott E. Anderson, Charles Gibson, Neal Scanlan, John Cox

1996 (69th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Independence Day -- Volker Engel, Douglas Smith, Clay Pinney, Joseph Viskocil

1997 (70th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Titanic -- Robert Legato, Mark Lasoff, Thomas L. Fisher, Michael Kanfer

1998 (71st)
VISUAL EFFECTS
What Dreams May Come -- Joel Hynek, Nicholas Brooks, Stuart Robertson, Kevin Mack

1999 (72nd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Matrix -- John Gaeta, Janek Sirrs, Steve Courtley, Jon Thum

2000 (73rd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Gladiator -- John Nelson, Neil Corbould, Tim Burke, Rob Harvey

2001 (74th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring -- Jim Rygiel, Randall William Cook, Richard Taylor, Mark Stetson

2002 (75th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers -- Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook, Alex Funke

2003 (76th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King -- Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook and Alex Funke

2004 (77th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Spider-Man 2 -- John Dykstra, Scott Stokdyk, Anthony LaMolinara and John Frazier

2005 (78th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
King Kong -- Joe Letteri, Brian Van't Hul, Christian Rivers and Richard Taylor

2006 (79th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest -- John Knoll, Hal Hickel, Charles Gibson and Allen Hall

2007 (80th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Golden Compass -- Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris and Trevor Wood



Nope. No Sci-Fi on that list.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by foots

You are kidding right?

1980 (53rd)
The Empire Strikes Back -- Brian Johnson, Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Bruce Nicholson

1981 (54th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Raiders of the Lost Ark -- Richard Edlund, Kit West, Bruce Nicholson, Joe Johnston

1982 (55th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial -- Carlo Rambaldi, Dennis Muren, Kenneth F. Smith

1983 (56th)
SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD (Visual Effects)
Return of the Jedi -- Richard Edlund, Dennis Muren, Ken Ralston, Phil Tippett

1984 (57th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom -- Dennis Muren, Michael McAlister, Lorne Peterson, George Gibbs

1985 (58th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Cocoon -- Ken Ralston, Ralph McQuarrie, Scott Farrar, David Berry

1986 (59th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Aliens -- Robert Skotak, Stan Winston, John Richardson, Suzanne Benson

1987 (60th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Innerspace -- Dennis Muren, William George, Harley Jessup, Kenneth Smith

1988 (61st)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Who Framed Roger Rabbit -- Ken Ralston, Richard Williams, Edward Jones, George Gibbs

1989 (62nd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Abyss -- John Bruno, Dennis Muren, Hoyt Yeatman, Dennis Skotak

1990 (63rd)
SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD (Visual Effects)
Total Recall -- Eric Brevig, Rob Bottin, Tim McGovern, Alex Funke

1991 (64th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Terminator 2: Judgment Day -- Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Gene Warren, Jr., Robert Skotak

1992 (65th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Death Becomes Her -- Ken Ralston, Doug Chiang, Doug Smythe, Tom Woodruff, Jr.

1993 (66th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Jurassic Park -- Dennis Muren, Stan Winston, Phil Tippett, Michael Lantieri

1994 (67th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Forrest Gump -- Ken Ralston, George Murphy, Stephen Rosenbaum, Allen Hall

1995 (68th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Babe -- Scott E. Anderson, Charles Gibson, Neal Scanlan, John Cox

1996 (69th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Independence Day -- Volker Engel, Douglas Smith, Clay Pinney, Joseph Viskocil

1997 (70th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Titanic -- Robert Legato, Mark Lasoff, Thomas L. Fisher, Michael Kanfer

1998 (71st)
VISUAL EFFECTS
What Dreams May Come -- Joel Hynek, Nicholas Brooks, Stuart Robertson, Kevin Mack

1999 (72nd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Matrix -- John Gaeta, Janek Sirrs, Steve Courtley, Jon Thum

2000 (73rd)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Gladiator -- John Nelson, Neil Corbould, Tim Burke, Rob Harvey

2001 (74th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring -- Jim Rygiel, Randall William Cook, Richard Taylor, Mark Stetson

2002 (75th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers -- Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook, Alex Funke

2003 (76th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King -- Jim Rygiel, Joe Letteri, Randall William Cook and Alex Funke

2004 (77th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Spider-Man 2 -- John Dykstra, Scott Stokdyk, Anthony LaMolinara and John Frazier

2005 (78th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
King Kong -- Joe Letteri, Brian Van't Hul, Christian Rivers and Richard Taylor

2006 (79th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest -- John Knoll, Hal Hickel, Charles Gibson and Allen Hall

2007 (80th)
VISUAL EFFECTS
The Golden Compass -- Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris and Trevor Wood



Nope. No Sci-Fi on that list.

I think I meant to say "Oscar". Do sci-fi flicks get Oscars?

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

It might just be my personal opinion, but I haven't seen or heard a movie that can top Tranformers in visual effects and sound in 2007. There were some good movies out there, but anyone not blown away by the visual effects in Tranformers has to be smoking crack. Yeah, Kevin O'Connell deserved to walk away with this one for sound. Poor guy. Oh well.

Sentimentality has affected too many oscars as it is. Scorsese anyone? The fact that Scorsese won his oscar for one of his worst movies is fairly telling of the Academy. I enjoy the film, but it doesn't even crack my top ten of his movies.

[Astalder]

I, like most of America, didn't bother watching. Even though I saw No Country For Old Men, I didn't even care if Hollywood saw fit to give that an Oscar. I root for good box office numbers for movies I like, and in that regard Transformers did just fine.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Astalder

Even though I saw No Country For Old Men, I didn't even care if Hollywood saw fit to give that an Oscar.

The only reason I DID watch the Oscars was to see Javier and the Cohens win... no other reason. Maybe we will see Lebowski put out earler, now that the Cohens are fresh on people's minds again... Si o No?

[OokieSpookie]

I thought that the visual effects should have gone to Pirates AWE.
The last half especially, but oh well.

[Blu Falcon]

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I thought that the visual effects should have gone to Pirates AWE.
The last half especially, but oh well.

I even thought that scene was better than the CGI polar bear in the Golden Compass. I figured if Transformers didn't win then AWE would surely walk away with it at least.

[Bluoholic]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

It might just be my personal opinion, but I haven't seen or heard a movie that can top Transformers in visual effects and sound in 2007. There were some good movies out there, but anyone not blown away by the visual effects in Transformers has to be smoking crack. Yeah, Kevin O'Connell deserved to walk away with this one for sound. Poor guy. Oh well.

with the visuals you're pushing it a little, there were better looking films in 2007,but sound editing and mixing, you're right transformers was robbed of those two oscars.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Am I the only one disappointed that Transformers didn't win an Oscar for Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing or Best Sound Mixing?

Silly Question.

Now, if the Academy had been able to view Transformers at home with a lossless audio track and the highest PQ possible, maybe they would have paid more attention... No?

[Denzelio]

Originally Posted by Blu Falcon

Am I the only one disappointed that Transformers didn't win an Oscar for Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing or Best Sound Mixing? I thought it should've walked away with all three, or at least one of the previously mentioned.

Must be as they were only on HD DVD not Blu-ray, only Blu ray titles/companies get considered