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Old 02-10-2016, 06:30 PM   #1
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It seems like the general consent is that pairing two subs of different brands and sizes is a bad idea.
Well I just did that, and I think it really comes down to room acoustics, subwoofer placement, and a little playing around with the gain controls on both subs...But it can be done.
My two subs (Onkyo and Acoustic Audio) are working together flawlessly
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It seems like the general consent is that pairing two subs of different brands and sizes is a bad idea.
Well I just did that, and I think it really comes down to room acoustics, subwoofer placement, and a little playing around with the gain controls on both subs...But it can be done.
My two subs (Onkyo and Acoustic Audio) are working together flawlessly
cool, which onkyo sub and which Acoustic Audio sub/model #?

Glad to hear things sound great.
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Old 02-10-2016, 10:57 PM   #3
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It seems like the general consent is that pairing two subs of different brands and sizes is a bad idea.
Well I just did that, and I think it really comes down to room acoustics, subwoofer placement, and a little playing around with the gain controls on both subs...But it can be done.
My two subs (Onkyo and Acoustic Audio) are working together flawlessly
Glad to hear this. I agree, while optimal to use two identical subs, it's not always possible, but it can be done with some tweaking as you've stated. Good job Rocky.
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Some would say the lesser sub will drag down the performance of the superior sub.
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Some would say the lesser sub will drag down the performance of the superior sub.
To an extent, yes. remember, a lot of what happens is not audible to us mere mortals. Will the lesser sub drag down the performance of the superior sub? Maybe. But would that happen to an extent that will be even audible? I don't think so.
And please, I am not trying to say that 2 subs of different brands and sizes work better than 2 subs of the same brand and size, but what I am saying is that we can still manage to get some pretty good, smooth, and uniform low frequencies across the room if we just try different placements and with good room acoustics
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To an extent, yes. remember, a lot of what happens is not audible to us mere mortals. Will the lesser sub drag down the performance of the superior sub? Maybe. But would that happen to an extent that will be even audible? I don't think so.
I would have to disagree; one crummy sub will easily and audibly bring down the SQ of a good one. Neither Onkyo nor AA make quality subwoofers though, so integrating what you currently have may be less of a challenge because they're both more similar than dissimilar. But swap either of those for a JL Audio, SVS, Rythmik or innumerable other subs known for SQ and your ears would notice.

Regarding your current two subs... what do the measurements show? They may sound "flawless" but no one can effectively tune by ear, so you can guarantee there's something amiss - without accurate level matching and proper objective measurements integrating disparate subwoofers is a crapshoot at best (from a practical standpoint the likelihood of them being properly integrated and tuned using the method you described is essentially nil). However, in the end the only thing that really matters is what everything sounds like to you. If you're satisfied with the outcome then little else is relevant.
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It seems like the general consent is that pairing two subs of different brands and sizes is a bad idea.
Well I just did that, and I think it really comes down to room acoustics, subwoofer placement, and a little playing around with the gain controls on both subs...But it can be done.
My two subs (Onkyo and Acoustic Audio) are working together flawlessly
Good to know I'm about to get another sub, a 12" in wall to have on the front of my theater and keep my 10" energy behind the couch. I'm so used to it that I need it now if I don't feel the bass in my couch something's missing. Going from 7.1, 2 zones to 7.2, 3 zones and probably 4 zones by this summer as my outside wiring is all ready.
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I mixed a 10" and 12", working great but it took multiple test tones, spl meter, REW and a stick I found that when you hold it it guides you to water.

But I mixed subs with similar port tunes, output, and sound.
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I mixed a 10" and 12", working great but it took multiple test tones, spl meter, REW and a stick I found that when you hold it it guides you to water.

But I mixed subs with similar port tunes, output, and sound.
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I mixed a 10" and 12", working great but it took multiple test tones, spl meter, REW and a stick I found that when you hold it it guides you to water.
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