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Old 07-08-2016, 01:20 PM   #81
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Cool. What rears are you using?

If i was to do it again I'd go for the jade 5 fronts over the jade 7. The crossover of the jade 5 better suits crossing over into a sub. The jade 7 cross over is at 150hz, so the mid driver is forced to go lower compared to the jade 5 which has a higher crossover into the woofers.

If you cross your sub at 80hz then the dual 8" woofers only do 150-80hz on the jade 7.

As a result of this i run the jade 7 as full range ("large") in my 5.1 while the other speakers cross at 80hz.
If they are capable of "full range" why not crossover at 40 hz and let the sub handle everything lower? That what I was doing with my Dyns. Seemed fine with me.
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Old 07-08-2016, 01:58 PM   #82
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My pioneer elite sc-lx87 has fixed crossover for all speakers. you can choose 50,80,100,120 hz. Can't set individual crossovers for speakers. The jade 2c center is rated to 55hz at -3db so I'm forced to set crossover to 80hz for all speakers. Given the jade7 lowest crossover is 180hz then the dual 8" woofers would only be tasked with 80-180hz so I just run them full range instead, rather than having a 5th crossover in a speaker that is already a 4 way speaker.

I'll eventually get around to using jrivers room correction with a umic-1 and set crossovers on the PC instead of in the AVR so I will be able to set individual crossovers.

Jade 5
Tweeter > 2.4khz
Mid 2.4 khz - 340 hz
Dual 6.5" woofers < 340hz

Jade 7
Tweeter > 2.48 khz
Mid 2.8 khz - 590 hz
Single 6.5" woofer 590hz - 180 hz
Dual 8" woofers < 180hz

So for a 5.1 setup, the jade5's have dual 6.5" woofers punching 80hz - 340hz. In contrast the jade 7 only has a single 6.5" woofer punching 180hz - 590hz. That's why I feel that in 5.1 there is not much advantage in the more expensive jade7.
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Old 11-13-2016, 02:13 PM   #83
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If anyone is looking for a nice pair of speakers,

Music Direct has the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1, now on sale for $199.

https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers...lf-speakers-pr
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:53 PM   #84
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Cool. What rears are you using?

If i was to do it again I'd go for the jade 5 fronts over the jade 7. The crossover of the jade 5 better suits crossing over into a sub. The jade 7 cross over is at 150hz, so the mid driver is forced to go lower compared to the jade 5 which has a higher crossover into the woofers.

If you cross your sub at 80hz then the dual 8" woofers only do 150-80hz on the jade 7.

As a result of this i run the jade 7 as full range ("large") in my 5.1 while the other speakers cross at 80hz.
I had a pair of Wharfedale 9.6s (which I loved) and bought a demo pair of Jade 5s for about 60% off the list price (and a 10 hour drive round trip). The difference was far more pronounced than I ever would have guessed. I ran them with a pair of DiY 15 sealed subs with an F3 of 31Hz crossed over at 80Hz and they sounded fabulous. It was the best blend of mains/subs Id ever heard in my system (Indy Audio Labs Aragon 8008 for the mains, Mondial Aragon 8008ST for the subs, Arcam AV888 and an Oppo BDP-95).

When Music Direct put the 7s on sale for $2500 with a deal for 3 years no interest I couldnt pass it up and ordered a pair. It took 7 months to get them in Vintage Cherry but the wait was well worth it. To my ears the Jade 7s sound even better than the Jade 5s and to my surprise they blend seamlessly with the 15 subs crossed over at 60Hz. And with the 3 midrange crossed over at 590Hz vs. 340Hz for the Jade 5s I can push them harder before they start to lose a little of their composure.

So its my personal preference based on experience in my system but if anyone were to ask me Id suggest the 7s over the 5s every time even if used with a sub. That said I could gladly live with the Jade 5s which are now in my wife's living room being powered by an Arcam AV receiver.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:00 PM   #85
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I currently have a Jade C1 center channel speaker with four Jade SRs for the surrounds and rears. I'd love to get my hands on a Jade C2 preferably in Vintage Cherry to match my Jade 7s but I haven't been able to find one anywhere. The Jade line has been discontinued unfortunately and I've had no luck contacting every Wharfedale dealer I can find in the US and Canada. If anyone knows of a Jade C2 for sale I'd appreciate any information possible.

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I currently have a Jade C1 center channel speaker with four Jade SRs for the surrounds and rears. I'd love to get my hands on a Jade C2 preferably in Vintage Cherry to match my Jade 7s but I haven't been able to find one anywhere. The Jade line has been discontinued unfortunately and I've had no luck contacting every Wharfedale dealer I can find in the US and Canada. If anyone knows of a Jade C2 for sale I'd appreciate any information possible.

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Need help and advise...

I purchased a set of Wharfedale Quartz Q7 AV system speakers, consisting of a pair of floorstander speakers, a pair of bookshelf speakers, a center speaker, plus the WH-D10 subwoofer.

I unboxed only the subwoofer and the bookshelves, and connected these as a 2.1 system to my receiver-- the sub's "input" to the receiver's left and right speaker terminals, with the bookshelves wired to the "output" terminals of the sub.

Turned on my amp and music source, but all I hear were the low frequency sounds from the sub. There were no sounds coming from the bookshelf speakers.

The bookshelves work fine when wired directly to the receiver, but not when wired to the subwoofer.


What's wrong?
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Need help and advise...

I purchased a set of Wharfedale Quartz Q7 AV system speakers, consisting of a pair of floorstander speakers, a pair of bookshelf speakers, a center speaker, plus the WH-D10 subwoofer.

I unboxed only the subwoofer and the bookshelves, and connected these as a 2.1 system to my receiver-- the sub's "input" to the receiver's left and right speaker terminals, with the bookshelves wired to the "output" terminals of the sub.

Turned on my amp and music source, but all I hear were the low frequency sounds from the sub. There were no sounds coming from the bookshelf speakers.

The bookshelves work fine when wired directly to the receiver, but not when wired to the subwoofer.


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Receiver model....and big question - why are you wiring through the sub? Is it a passive sub? I will the info on your sub and speakers also. It sees as if you have your system wired backwards at the crossover of the sub. I especially need the subwoofer model.
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