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Old 12-12-2017, 08:06 AM   #1
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So here is my situation I have an old Pioneer receiver HDMI 1.3, I want Atmos and I want and I want to go with an Arcam receiver that has HDMI 2.1 once it is announced. How will a 90 watts per channel amplifier integrate with my Pioneer receiver that gives me 45 wpc all channels driven.

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HTM 61 center 150 watts unclipped
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So here is my situation I have an old Pioneer receiver HDMI 1.3, I want Atmos and I want and I want to go with an Arcam receiver. How will a 90 watts per channel amplifier integrate with my Pioneer receiver that gives me 45 wpc all channels driven.

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It depends on what AVR your Pioneer is. Does it have Atmos decoding? Or are you replacing the Pioneer with an Arcam that decodes Atmos?
That Arcam amp you quote is very nice and seems a bit much for ceiling speakers. If I had that amp, I'd use it for my 4 surround channels. Then find something a bit less for the ceiling speakers. Maybe even use your Pioneer for them, if it has pre-outs.

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I missed the title of your question.

Yeah, that'd be pretty great for your front 3.
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So here is my situation I have an old Pioneer receiver HDMI 1.3, I want Atmos and I want and I want to go with an Arcam receiver. How will a 90 watts per channel amplifier integrate with my Pioneer receiver that gives me 45 wpc all channels driven.

Arcam 429

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HTM 61 center 150 watts unclipped
I don't understand your post or I am misreading it completely, how are you planning to accomplish Atmos? You need a decoder.

The Arcam amp you linked to is only a power amp, if in any manner you can connect it to your pioneer HDMI1.3 (you've said integrate) you will never have Atmos as it is an old receiver which wont have Atmos. At the same time you say you want an Arcam receiver. So what's the integration with the Pioneer about?
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I don't understand your post or I am misreading it completely, how are you planning to accomplish Atmos? You need a decoder.

The Arcam amp you linked to is only a power amp, if in any manner you can connect it to your pioneer HDMI1.3 (you've said integrate) you will never have Atmos as it is an old receiver which wont have Atmos. At the same time you say you want an Arcam receiver. So what's the integration with the Pioneer about?
I want to integrate the P 429 with my three front channels to give them more power. I know I will need a new receiver to get Dolby Atmos/DTS X. When I have the new receiver I will use the P 429 to power the ceiling speakers.
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I want to integrate the P 429 with my three front channels to give them more power. I know I will need a new receiver to get Dolby Atmos/DTS X. When I have the new receiver I will use the P 429 to power the ceiling speakers.
That's a good idea. I was going to suggest the P349 for your front three, but I see what you're doing.
That's a pretty great amp that you're looking at. If it's at all possible, if the new AVR has assignable amplifiers, I'd use the P 429 for surround and surround back, and then use the internal AVR amps for ceiling. Like I said, if possible.
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Scratch what I said above.
If you were staying with Arcam for your AVR, the specs on the AVR 850 are 7 channels driven, 100w. That's plenty. The P 429 would be an awesome match with that.
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I want to integrate the P 429 with my three front channels to give them more power. I know I will need a new receiver to get Dolby Atmos/DTS X. When I have the new receiver I will use the P 429 to power the ceiling speakers.
You have not provided a lot of details on the Pioneer but if it is only 45W per channel is not one of the top models.

So, I think you should be getting a much more solid sound by adding that separate amp for the three main speakers. Specs and numbers don't always give you an idea on how it will sound but I think chances are in your favor.
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So here is my situation I have an old Pioneer receiver HDMI 1.3, I want Atmos and I want and I want to go with an Arcam receiver that has HDMI 2.1 once it is announced. How will a 90 watts per channel amplifier integrate with my Pioneer receiver that gives me 45 wpc all channels driven.

Arcam 429

683 fronts 200 watts unclipped
HTM 61 center 150 watts unclipped
What did you end up doing?
How was the price, if you don't mind me asking?
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