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Old 03-04-2017, 01:02 AM   #21
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Amazon say my discs will be here wednesday although European titles often arrive a day earlier than predicted.
As soon as the disc starts playing an episode it will be instantly possible to see if any of it was edited on tape.
It wasn't edited on tape...it's common knowledge it was shot on film.

Go read any review of the DVD, like this one:

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The show was clearly shot on film and this gives it a huge advantage over many of the videotaped shows from the same period.
Or just google some interviews. Here's one where Joe Dante talked about the huge differences between the 80s TWILIGHT ZONE revival -- which was edited on tape, and looked "cheap" -- and AMAZING STORIES, which wasn't:

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I’d already done an episode of AMAZING STORIES too, which made the new THE TWILIGHT ZONE look like poverty row.
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[80s Twilight Zone] was one of the first TV series edited on videotape.
Rest of the interview is here:

http://www.comingsoon.net/horror/new...ode-shadow-man

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Old 03-04-2017, 02:45 AM   #22
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So how does the whole PAL speedup thing affect these "SD on Blu-ray" sets? There are a number of these now (Buck Rogers, Parker Lewis, etc) so I'm just wondering if the voices sound sped-up.

I know PAL doesn't have anything to do with digital itself, but if you start with a PAL master it would cause this problem, correct? There are a few blu-rays I have gotten from PAL countries (like FX and Scream from Australia) that did suffer from the sped-up high pitched voices.
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It wasn't edited on tape...it's common knowledge it was shot on film.

Go read any review of the DVD, like this one:



Or just google some interviews. Here's one where Joe Dante talked about the huge differences between the 80s TWILIGHT ZONE revival -- which was edited on tape, and looked "cheap" -- and AMAZING STORIES, which wasn't:



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Rest of the interview is here:

http://www.comingsoon.net/horror/new...ode-shadow-man
Not refuting the claim, but none of this is proof it wasn't edited on tape, just that it was shot on film. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:51 AM   #24
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Tales From The Darkside and The New Twilight Zone were both shot on 16mm and edited on tape, which was already very commonplace by the mid-80s for lower-budget productions. The easiest way to tell is by looking at the credits, which look "video-y" (for lack of a bet phrase). On productions like these, film elements were often discarded either years later or right after the video master was finished. Joe Dante ha said this is why there'll never be an HD release of Eerie Indiana for example. Indeed, the only reason Pee-Wee's Playhouse was able to be remastered was because Paul Reubens studiously saved every bit of film himself off his own back, which shows a lot of foresight on his part!

Amazing Stories, being a bigger-budget Amblin/Universal production, was shot and edited on 35mm. The fact that three episodes were bunched together and released theatrically in 1987 as Amazing Stories: The Movie is testament to this. Despite this, Universal probably do not think remastering the series in HD is worth the money as it's never been a huge money-spinner for them.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:29 PM   #25
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Tales From The Darkside and The New Twilight Zone were both shot on 16mm and edited on tape, which was already very commonplace by the mid-80s for lower-budget productions. The easiest way to tell is by looking at the credits, which look "video-y" (for lack of a bet phrase). On productions like these, film elements were often discarded either years later or right after the video master was finished. Joe Dante ha said this is why there'll never be an HD release of Eerie Indiana for example. Indeed, the only reason Pee-Wee's Playhouse was able to be remastered was because Paul Reubens studiously saved every bit of film himself off his own back, which shows a lot of foresight on his part!
Hmm... does that mean there is at least the possibility that either of those shows could be done in HD?
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Despite this, Universal probably do not think remastering the series in HD is worth the money as it's never been a huge money-spinner for them.
Again, I'm pretty certain these ran on Netflix in HD -- along with Incredible Hulk, Knight Rider, etc. They could well have produced HD masters at the same time they released Season 1 on DVD, which appeared to have been freshly remastered and looked quite excellent.

That this German release only has PAL SD doesn't mean it doesn't exist...Germany has released other shows in SD like BUCK ROGERS which are in HD elsewhere.
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french dvd cover looks pretty good https://www.amazon.fr/Histoires-fant...s+fantastiques
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Does anyone know if these come in the digibook/mediabook format (like SLIDERS or BIONIC WOMAN), or are they in regular amarays?
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Hmm... does that mean there is at least the possibility that either of those shows could be done in HD?
In theory it's possible, but only if a) the original 16mm film materials still exist, and b) if the copyright holders want to invest the significant time and costs it would take to remaster everything from scratch in HD. And if Paramount can't be bothered to remaster DS9 or Voyager for the 50th anniversary of Star Trek, why would they remaster Tales From The Darkside?

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Again, I'm pretty certain these ran on Netflix in HD -- along with Incredible Hulk, Knight Rider, etc. They could well have produced HD masters at the same time they released Season 1 on DVD, which appeared to have been freshly remastered and looked quite excellent.
I certainly hope that's the case, though again, that's no indication a distributor would take the financial risk of releasing a Blu-Ray set. Also, the French DVD-only set gretzky2010 linked to (which looks very tempting indeed!) is from Elephant Films, who haven't hesitated to release any Universal titles they could get HD masters of on Blu-Ray. Again, I hope I'm wrong!
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Does anyone know if these come in the digibook/mediabook format (like SLIDERS or BIONIC WOMAN), or are they in regular amarays?
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GHOST TRAIN was the Spielberg-directed premiere episode and THE MISSION, the only other one he directed, aired in November that year. One of the rare hour-long episodes. It was, however, part of the AMAZING STORIES - THE MOVIE theatrical release overseas.

Another bit of trivia is THE AMAZING FALSWORTH was deemed "too intense" by NBC and ran on a different day at a later time slot than all the other episodes...think it was a Tuesday at 9:30. I remember because I had to let my parents let me stay up for it!

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Nice quality but one query. Several episodes have a notation next to it that translates as Remove Scene. Does that mean there is a deleted scene included that was removed for German broadcast or what does it mean?
The US DVD has deleted scenes that were never broadcast -- probably just the same ones.

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Exactly. We don't know of any cuts for German broadcast; these are just deleted scenes that did not make it into the final episodes.
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Exactly. We don't know of any cuts for German broadcast; these are just deleted scenes that did not make it into the final episodes.
Is there a reason why the deleted scenes for the "Secret Cinema" episode which are available on at least the US and Dutch DVD releases are not included on the Blu-ray?
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:05 AM   #34
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Turbine's SD on Blu-ray transfer looks like a high definition restoration in SD.
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