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Old 02-08-2018, 04:15 PM   #21
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I know Joey 3d says his cable company never stopped showing 3d movies, but I haven't had this feature in 2 to 3 years.

Well guess what? I was looking at Charter Communications-Spectrum cable and bam there was at least 10 to 15 3d movies including the Great
Wall and other new features! Woo hoo!

Now that is good 3d news!
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That is great news.
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Old 02-08-2018, 04:35 PM   #22
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Not here on Comcast/Xfinity.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:28 PM   #23
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Not here on Comcast/Xfinity.
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Don't understand why it isn't just offered to all subscribers since it's provided by HBO. Maybe costs and charges vary?
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Directv never had the HBO 3D on demand option.
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Old 02-08-2018, 07:38 PM   #25
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Default What hbo is showing!

Here is what is showing:

Assassin
batman v. Superman
how to train your dragon
great wall
harry potter 8
ice age 3
king arthur
kong on skull island
lego batman
shrek 4
storks
suicide squad
warcraft
xmen apocalypse

pretty impressive huh!
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Not here on Comcast/Xfinity.
I've got every option there is on Comcast. None here.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:29 AM   #27
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Not even 3D will get me to subscribe to cable. I have all of those movies on disc anyways.
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Old 02-09-2018, 03:48 AM   #28
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Default I understand.

I understand. My point was that for a quite a few people it might be a good way to get them to try or re-try 3d. I only have HBO because they gave it to me for free.

I am always happy to see 3d staying in the mainstream in any way. I do feel like you do about cable. But a lot don't.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:35 AM   #29
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The same is true with FIOS. (tho Kong and Lego Batman aren't there currently). It's been back for a few months. Comcast subscribers will be out of luck, as Comcast dropped it a year ago. Finally got to see the Great Wall 3D.
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Here is what is showing:

Assassin
batman v. Superman
how to train your dragon
great wall
harry potter 8
ice age 3
king arthur
kong on skull island
lego batman
shrek 4
storks
suicide squad
warcraft
xmen apocalypse

pretty impressive huh!
Hi wild Bill,

Was able to catch Storks, Assassin's Creed and Suicide Squad. Enjoyed Storks but one viewing is satisfactory. Glad I saw the other two because they were just not for me and this stopped me from spending the money to make them part of my collection. If I saw them in 2D might have given each a shot on the chance 3D would make a difference.
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Old 02-11-2018, 08:27 PM   #31
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And now Wonder Woman can be added to the list.
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Hi wild Bill,

Was able to catch Storks, Assassin's Creed and Suicide Squad. Enjoyed Storks but one viewing is satisfactory. Glad I saw the other two because they were just not for me and this stopped me from spending the money to make them part of my collection. If I saw them in 2D might have given each a shot on the chance 3D would make a difference.
Hey Joey 3d:

Exactly. If it is just ok I wait for a really good sale or just get the $5.00 german version. But it so nice to have the movies on demand. To me a good sign that somebody up there still loves us!

How are you, by the way?

I still think we should make you our 3d Ambassador! With our new moderator maybe he can bestow that title on the nicest man on this forum.
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Old 02-12-2018, 02:05 AM   #33
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Hey Joey 3d:

Exactly. If it is just ok I wait for a really good sale or just get the $5.00 german version. But it so nice to have the movies on demand. To me a good sign that somebody up there still loves us!

How are you, by the way?

I still think we should make you our 3d Ambassador! With our new moderator maybe he can bestow that title on the nicest man on this forum.
Hi wildbill,

Again you're making me blush. No need to single me out as an ambassador - our whole little group makes for a nice embassy of 3D!

And what about that autobiography you promised?
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I understand. My point was that for a quite a few people it might be a good way to get them to try or re-try 3d. I only have HBO because they gave it to me for free.

I am always happy to see 3d staying in the mainstream in any way. I do feel like you do about cable. But a lot don't.
This is not a good thing. People watching 3D on subpar setups is largely what lead to so much public disdain for the technology.

These HBO versions are guaranteed to be utter trash. Interlaced, bitrate starved, and side-by-side 3D instead of a nice frame-packed 3D Blu-ray.

They will be half the resolution and filled with compression compared to the 3D Blu-ray. Not exactly how you want this technology demonstrated to the uninformed. But that's only on an active screen. Oh ho, it gets worse.

If they are watching on a passive 3D TV the resolution is cut in half AGAIN so it's like they are watching it at half of 720p resolution.

This crap along with ESPN 3D being 720p side-by-side (so its resolution when combined by the TV into a 3D image was literally like 360p, absolutely horrendous quality), HDMI 1.4 restricting 3D signals to a maximum resolution of 1080p24 or 720p60, thereby crippling playing games in 3D, are among the many things in the cluster**** that was rolling out 3D that 'blew it' in the mind of the average customer.

The only time 3D looks 'at its best' and leaves a good impression is when watching a 3D Blu-ray on an active 3D TV (since a passive 3D TV cuts the resolution in HALF) or if you were one of the few people who got their hands on Samsung's top-end 2014 or 2015 model 4K TVs. Those could accept a 3840x2160 60 Hz side-by-side signals, so you could effectively play 3D video games at 1600p and 60 FPS using TriDef and a PC. Playing something like a third person platformer or a city builder at 2x 1080p resolution / 60 FPS definitely leaves a far stronger and more positive impression of the technology than having to play some turd on the PS3 that renders below 720p resolution and can't even hit 30 frames per second.

The PS3 was the big console that pushed 3D and Sony ****ing blew it because of what a weak piece of crap it was. Trying to play any PS3 game in 3D was an exercise in frustration because it felt like you needed to schedule an optometrist appointment the whole time.
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This is not a good thing. People watching 3D on subpar setups is largely what lead to so much public disdain for the technology.

These HBO versions are guaranteed to be utter trash. Interlaced, bitrate starved, and side-by-side 3D instead of a nice frame-packed 3D Blu-ray.

They will be half the resolution and filled with compression compared to the 3D Blu-ray. Not exactly how you want this technology demonstrated to the uninformed. But that's only on an active screen. Oh ho, it gets worse.

If they are watching on a passive 3D TV the resolution is cut in half AGAIN so it's like they are watching it at half of 720p resolution..
Hi scorpiontail,

Have to disagree. HBO was my first experience with real 3D after I got my Sony and rather than turn me off, it got me hooked. You're forgetting that even with the limited resolution and interlaced picture quality, its seeing 3D for the first time at home. How could one not be impressed? All I had seen at home before that was simulation and a store demo years before. This got me to buy a player and the now 252 discs in my collection.

Had it not been for cable 3D, don't know when I might have made the plunge, even though my set had the 3D feature.

So it doesn't matter if one's first experience is HBO. It's good enough to get one craving for more. If it doesn't, then the individual probably doesn't want to delve further. Its limitations certainly would not stop one from pursuing 3D further if they were on the edge.
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...Yeah, except that this is 2018, and we have 4K HDR widely available now.

After a customer has seen a beautiful Netflix show in action like Altered Carbon in 4K HDR, and then they flip over to an over-compressed side-by-side 3D movie on HBO, they are going to think 'wow, this sucks ass. 4K is definitely better'

3D Blu-ray can still hold its own reasonably well against UHD, as can PC gaming in 3D. But trying to watch some 720p resolution side-by-side material or playing a low resolution, low framerate 3D PS3 game? That is not going to impress anyone in the current year. I love 3D and I advocate for viewing it over a 4K version of a movie the majority of the time, but even I won't watch some shitty HBO On Demand version of a 3D movie over a 4K Netflix show / UHD Blu-ray.
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...Yeah, except that this is 2018, and we have 4K HDR widely available now.

After a customer has seen a beautiful Netflix show in action like Altered Carbon in 4K HDR, and then they flip over to an over-compressed side-by-side 3D movie on HBO, they are going to think 'wow, this sucks ass. 4K is definitely better'

3D Blu-ray can still hold its own reasonably well against UHD, as can PC gaming in 3D. But trying to watch some 720p resolution side-by-side material or playing a low resolution, low framerate 3D PS3 game? That is not going to impress anyone in the current year. I love 3D and I advocate for viewing it over a 4K version of a movie the majority of the time, but even I won't watch some shitty HBO On Demand version of a 3D movie over a 4K Netflix show / UHD Blu-ray.
When HBO still offered 3D on demand in my area it actually looked pretty good on my setup. I pay for HD channels and have a Sony 4K 3D set so no 720p resolution on my end. They always had a limited selection of titles.....maybe 8 to 12 to choose from but I almost always had the movies on 3D blu ray anyways so no real need for their services. It was nice though for the occasional movie I didn't already own.
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When HBO still offered 3D on demand in my area it actually looked pretty good on my setup. I pay for HD channels and have a Sony 4K 3D set so no 720p resolution on my end. They always had a limited selection of titles.....maybe 8 to 12 to choose from but I almost always had the movies on 3D blu ray anyways so no real need for their services. It was nice though for the occasional movie I didn't already own.
Or movies that didn't get a domestic US 3D release, such as THE GREAT WALL
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...yeah, except that this is 2018, and we have 4k hdr widely available now.

After a customer has seen a beautiful netflix show in action like altered carbon in 4k hdr, and then they flip over to an over-compressed side-by-side 3d movie on hbo, they are going to think 'wow, this sucks ass. 4k is definitely better'

3d blu-ray can still hold its own reasonably well against uhd, as can pc gaming in 3d. But trying to watch some 720p resolution side-by-side material or playing a low resolution, low framerate 3d ps3 game? That is not going to impress anyone in the current year. I love 3d and i advocate for viewing it over a 4k version of a movie the majority of the time, but even i won't watch some shitty hbo on demand version of a 3d movie over a 4k netflix show / uhd blu-ray.
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Have to disagree. HBO was my first experience with real 3D after I got my Sony and rather than turn me off, it got me hooked. You're forgetting that even with the limited resolution and interlaced picture quality, its seeing 3D for the first time at home. How could one not be impressed? All I had seen at home before that was simulation and a store demo years before. This got me to buy a player and the now 252 discs in my collection.

Had it not been for cable 3D, don't know when I might have made the plunge, even though my set had the 3D feature.

So it doesn't matter if one's first experience is HBO. It's good enough to get one craving for more. If it doesn't, then the individual probably doesn't want to delve further. Its limitations certainly would not stop one from pursuing 3D further if they were on the edge.
It's nice that HBO is tossing in a few 3D show, but even if a non-3D person stumbled on it, they couldn't "pursue" 3D any further since you can't buy 3D TV's anymore and movies on disc are few an far between at this point. HBO is great for those still starving for the format, but odds are that 3D fans don't need HBO since they probably hoarded all the 3D movies on disc that they could while they still existed.
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