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Old 02-09-2018, 04:08 AM   #5261
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for those of you pairing this oppo with an lg oled set (mine is the lg c6 oled) what black level setting on the tv pairs properly with the oppo? black level low? high?
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:21 AM   #5262
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for those of you pairing this oppo with an lg oled set (mine is the lg c6 oled) what black level setting on the tv pairs properly with the oppo? black level low? high?
You have picture modes, for example Dolby Vision Dark. ISF Expert Dark for non HD, HDR standard for HDR.
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Old 02-09-2018, 04:27 AM   #5263
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You have picture modes, for example Dolby Vision Dark. ISF Expert Dark for non HD, HDR standard for HDR.
yeah - i am aware of all that. i am using hdr standard for uhd hdr enabled discs. my question was - which black level setting seems to be the preference or produces the most accurate picture when in any of the modes like hdr standard?

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Old 02-09-2018, 05:09 AM   #5264
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yeah - i am aware of all that. i am using hdr standard for uhd hdr enabled discs. my question was - which black level setting seems to be the preference or produces the most accurate picture when in any of the modes like hdr standard?
Don't want to make this a different topic thread - but you can check this particular AVS thread for that, in particular this post.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:40 AM   #5265
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Don't want to make this a different topic thread - but you can check this particular AVS thread for that, in particular this post.
johnav - thanks for trying to help. looked at the post you are referring to - and no recommendation there even in those settings on black level. plus, that user recommended turning edge enhancement on - which is an automatic no dice for me.

oh well - again thanks for trying!
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:02 AM   #5266
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for those of you pairing this oppo with an lg oled set (mine is the lg c6 oled) what black level setting on the tv pairs properly with the oppo? black level low? high?
Black level "Low" is the correct setting.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:33 AM   #5267
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Is this able to play bdr-xl discs?
I think no player currently available can read BD-r XL. I know for a fact that Panasonic and Samsung UHD players can't play them.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:55 AM   #5268
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Hi all

I started a thread over in the receivers forum but I'm wondering if it's an issue with my 203 as well.

I'm not getting any sound when sending DTS X over bitstream to my Onkyo HT-S5805. The Onkyo is not DTS X compatible but I thought it would still be able to play the HD-MA core.

The one exception is ET on UHD. If I use the disc menu to switch to DTS X Headphone and then back to normal DTS X I get HD-MA 5.1 and it sounds great. This work around doesn't work on any other disc I've tried.

Do we think it is the Oppo or the Onkyo that isn't playing ball or is it me?

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Old 02-09-2018, 12:05 PM   #5269
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Maybe the way the disc is authored is causing issues with the combination of your equipment? Whichever is to blame I couldn't fathom a guess. Because you certainly should be getting a DTS-HD MA soundtrack over HDMI.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:49 PM   #5270
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Have a Synology NAS with a media server app installed on it. I create .M3U playlist files with VUPlayer and store them in a Playlist folder on the NAS drive. When I browse this folder with the 203 I can retrieve the desired playlist file and the 203 will play the music files in the playlist.

I tried to do the same with a USB thumb drive. Created .M3U playlist files with VUPlayer and stored them in a Playlist folder on the thumb drive. Problem: When I go to the Playlist folder nothing shows up on the 203. What am I overlooking?
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:04 PM   #5271
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Hi all

I started a thread over in the receivers forum but I'm wondering if it's an issue with my 203 as well.

I'm not getting any sound when sending DTS X over bitstream to my Onkyo HT-S5805. The Onkyo is not DTS X compatible but I thought it would still be able to play the HD-MA core.

The one exception is ET on UHD. If I use the disc menu to switch to DTS X Headphone and then back to normal DTS X I get HD-MA 5.1 and it sounds great. This work around doesn't work on any other disc I've tried.

Do we think it is the Oppo or the Onkyo that isn't playing ball or is it me?

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Maybe the way the disc is authored is causing issues with the combination of your equipment? Whichever is to blame I couldn't fathom a guess. Because you certainly should be getting a DTS-HD MA soundtrack over HDMI.
I am not an expert but what the poster just said above is a high probability; a combination of the audio encoding on the disc itself and the Onkyo receiver trying to get a lock-on.

It happens very rarely, and what you did; switching from one audio selection to another will get the lock-on on the audio. Another solution I found in the past when I get no audio is to shut down my pre/pro (or receiver) and back on again.

Last and not least, shut everything down and unplug the HDMI cable going from your 203 to your receiver and plug it back with a full push to both ends.
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:09 AM   #5272
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:18 PM   #5273
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yeah - i am aware of all that. i am using hdr standard for uhd hdr enabled discs. my question was - which black level setting seems to be the preference or produces the most accurate picture when in any of the modes like hdr standard?
My professional calibrator set Black Level for ISF Expert Dark and Bright to LOW. But for HDR Standard it is set to HIGH. It is the only instance where it is set to HIGH.

Dolby Vision Movie Dark and Bright have it at LOW by default and can't be changed by the user because of the dynamic metadata involved in DV. Scene by scene the "instruction" is there for your TV to display it correctly and as intended.

EDIT: If I remember correctly the reason HDR Standard was set to HIGH for Black level is because of the increase in detail with 4K in darker areas of the picture. The LOW setting would obliterate some of those details.
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Old 02-10-2018, 02:28 PM   #5274
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My professional calibrator set Black Level for ISF Expert Dark and Bright to LOW. But for HDR Standard it is set to HIGH. It is the only instance where it is set to HIGH.

Dolby Vision Movie Dark and Bright have it at LOW by default and can't be changed by the user because of the dynamic metadata involved in DV. Scene by scene the "instruction" is there for your TV to display it correctly and as intended.

EDIT: If I remember correctly the reason HDR Standard was set to HIGH for Black level is because of the increase in detail with 4K in darker areas of the picture. The LOW setting would obliterate some of those details.
well this is interesting. another poster said black level low is proper setting in hdr standard mode. but what you are saying about high black level in hdr mode only makes sense.

heres what i see when switching between low and high in hdr standard mode:

1. low mode - the picture looks better/pops more. but anything in dark shadows looks black. example: assassins creed movie - most faces are indistinguishable. all faces are super dark. but rest of picture looks better. but i am losing most shadow detail.

2. high black level mode - faces arent as dark. can see more in shadows. but rest of picture looks a little too bright. picture doesnt pop well.

wish there was a way tomfix to get a little of both - not happy with either one.

anyone else have any opinions/tips?
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Old 02-10-2018, 02:43 PM   #5275
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Black Level on High is meant to be used when the input is at Full Range/PC Levels. It's definitely wrong for HDR from the Oppo because in HDR mode it always outputs video levels, regardless of the color space setting.
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well this is interesting. another poster said black level low is proper setting in hdr standard mode. but what you are saying about high black level in hdr mode only makes sense.

heres what i see when switching between low and high in hdr standard mode:

1. low mode - the picture looks better/pops more. but anything in dark shadows looks black. example: assassins creed movie - most faces are indistinguishable. all faces are super dark. but rest of picture looks better. but i am losing most shadow detail.

2. high black level mode - faces arent as dark. can see more in shadows. but rest of picture looks a little too bright. picture doesnt pop well.
On my panel, I only get the loss of detail in shadows/dark areas when trying LOW setting and all those details are then returned when using HIGH setting. I just tried it. I don't get too bright a picture overall on HIGH. Everything looks just right to my eyes. There's plenty of "pop" and it's more detailed. LOW just makes everything too dark overall and some of the 4k detail is being lost.

Has your panel been calibrated at all? The first thing my calibrator did was test my panel for errors "out of the box" and then correct everything from there. And there were errors. Each OLED panel is unique apparently. But, hey, at the end of the day if you prefer the look of LOW on your panel, then go with that.
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It's not about 'prefer'. Low is correct, high is incorrect.
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It's definitely wrong for HDR from the Oppo because in HDR mode it always outputs video levels, regardless of the color space setting.
Interesting. I'd have to ask my calibrator that. He was the one that set it to HIGH as the correct setting and see what he says regarding the OPPO.
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It's not about 'prefer'. Low is correct, high is incorrect.
Not according to my calibrator it isn't, but I am going to email him now and find out what he says about this.
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