PS3 vs. Regular Blu-ray Player

[louhamilton]

Originally Posted by EWL5

In case anyone's wondering, my favorite player is the Oppo simply because it has the fewest compromises. I could have purchased 3 Oppo's with what I paid for the Denon.

However, I do not consider the Oppo high end simply because I've heard much better CD playback from the Denon over analog. It's a shame my Denon is not universal. I'm not crazy enough to pony up for that A1UDCI!

How about the new Universal player they are coming out with, the 4010? It lists for about $2000.

Originally Posted by ryan69969

A sharp, 3" pocket knife is plenty to field dress an American white tail.

Hehehehe. It's been about 15 years since I last hunted. Hunting for me died when my grandfather passed away. I just always loved my Buck Knife.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by louhamilton

How about the new Universal player they are coming out with, the 4010? It lists for about $2000.

The Denon 4010 is an Oppo on steroids. It's got the same ABT 2010 chip as the Oppo and the same analog audio section as my Denon 3800. As a matter of fact, I remember my Oppo and Denon disappeared one night. The 4010 must be their love-child!!!

The 4010 sounds like a nice replacement for the 3800. I wish I had a Denon receiver that could take advantage of DenonLink4.

[bhampton]

Some may consider it high end.

Some may not consider it high end.

But,... I love my PS3 and don't ever want to be without one.

-Brian

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Some may consider it high end.

Some may not consider it high end.

But,... I love my PS3 and don't ever want to be without one.

-Brian

Haven't used my PS3 for Blu-ray in quite some time. All it does is Beatles RockBand these days...

[louhamilton]

Originally Posted by EWL5

Haven't used my PS3 for Blu-ray in quite some time. All it does is Beatles RockBand these days...

Mine usually sees Dirt 2 or Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

just breezed through some of your posts on there. you did have one good point about testing out (not purchasing) the high-end, and then using that information in the testing process to adjust one's criteria, such as maybe finding bargain low-end equipment that is equally good, but way better than the current low-end equipment being used.

Now you got it.... That's why the call it "Reference gear" my friend

[prerich]

Originally Posted by EWL5

In case anyone's wondering, my favorite player is the Oppo simply because it has the fewest compromises. I could have purchased 3 Oppo's with what I paid for the Denon.

However, I do not consider the Oppo high end simply because I've heard much better CD playback from the Denon over analog. It's a shame my Denon is not universal. I'm not crazy enough to pony up for that A1UDCI!

True dat!

[Scott_Summers]

Could someone tell me if standalone players like the Panasonic BD80 usually have better PQ and AQ than the PS3 itself? I want to get a standalone player and switch the PS3 to gaming only.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Scott_Summers

Could someone tell me if standalone players like the Panasonic BD80 usually have better PQ and AQ than the PS3 itself? I want to get a standalone player and switch the PS3 to gaming only.

There's really no difference in video quality between any BD players, whether they be the $98 Magnavox or the $500 Oppo.

[EWL5]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

There's really no difference in video quality between any BD players, whether they be the $98 Magnavox or the $500 Oppo.

This is only true when viewing BD, and it's not even 100% guaranteed. Certain players may exhibit CUE (chroma upsampling errors) during the MPEG decoding process, among other things.

Separation of poor, good, and excellent BD players for video will be more or less determined by DVD playback. Easiest to differentiate would be deinterlacing quality (by using reference discs and synthetic tests found in discs like Spears and Munsil or DVE: HD Basics). Players with the Reon chip have been known to exhibit colorspace errors when outputting over YCbCr but not with RGB. Little stuff like that requires a lot of research...or a lot of asking.

If you don't care about DVD playback on your BD player, then you are more or less correct that BD players perform very similarly across the board under 1080p/24.

However, if you are a picky movie watcher that prefers to use tools like DNR, edge enhancement, etc. for BD playback, then you will want something more powerful (ie. Realta). Players with the Reon chip can't do noise reduction for HD.

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by FIREitUP913

I think there are people who ran out and bought the Oppo it was a highly anticipated release and the first reviews were spectacular. Then after they bought it, comparisons were done between ps3 and the oppo, and like I said the video quality is identical, Cnet said virtually identical. Whether you bitstream audio thru hdmi or its decode it in the player and send it out thru analog it sounds the same. Ontop of that ps3 has wifi (another 80$ add on for the oppo) and its a game machine and media center and it cost 200$ less. Its really annoying seeing people spread FUD about the audio on the Oppo being in a completely different league because they are probably sore about the ps3 having almost identical video and audio quality after they went out and spent 500$ assuming they would definately get better video and audio than the ps3. Like it or not, the ps3 has virtually identical video and audio quality (yes it has another option for outputting sound, does not affect quality), and has many other abilities. Stop spreading false information because a "video game system" has identical video and sound quality when compared to your 500$ Oppo.

Blu-ray playback will be almost identical between all players.
It's DVD upconversion where the PS3 fails when compared to SA players.
As for the Cnet review, they must of tested on a 20" screen if they believe the PS3 DVD upconversion is anything close to the OPPO.

Also keep in mind that most people are using their player for blu-ray placback and the gaming capability of the PS3 is not a blu-ray feature. A SA player also will cost $100-200 less than the PS3 with identical blu-ray PQ playback and better DVD upconversion.

[Scott_Summers]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I rarely watch DVDs anyway so the upscaling does not matter to me at all. I was only deciding if I should spend $300 on a PS3 Slim or a Panasonic BD60 or BD80 for around $150. I read somewhere that the standalone players have better PQ than the PS3 so I thought I might as well save myself some $$ and get the Pannny since I only care about PQ.

[lhslancers]

I just found this forum so I'm a total noob. Just used my 2 year old PS3 60GB to play a Blu-Ray for the first time yesterday and plan on buying and renting more in the future. My concern is wearing out the lens. I play games on the unit a fair amount. Would it make sense to buy a cheap player for movies and give the game machine a break and use it just for games?

[TTUBatfan2008]

Originally Posted by lhslancers

Would it make sense to buy a cheap player for movies and give the game machine a break and use it just for games?

Yes. I use my PS3 only for Blu-ray's.

[bluefiretruck]

If I download a bluray movie from isohunt and then convert it to mpeg 4 and copy it to my PS3 Harddrive will it be bluray quality?

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by bluefiretruck

If I download a bluray movie from isohunt and then convert it to mpeg 4 and copy it to my PS3 Harddrive will it be bluray quality?

No. The file is only, what, 10 gigs? Blu-rays are written on 50 gig discs, so you'll lose quality.

Also, I'm pretty sure talk of illegal downloads is not allowed here. Either way, most here don't approve and will probably respond accordingly. I would, but you're new here, so I'll be nice.

Welcome to the forum though.