50 Years of James Bond! - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:00 PM

We need an "unbiased" reviewer to re-review the current Bond titles and the ones coming out later this year. They rag on Moore so much that it makes me want to slap them in the face.

jtu128 · 01-09-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

We need an "unbiased" reviewer to re-review the current Bond titles and the ones coming out later this year. They rag on Moore so much that it makes me want to slap them in the face.

The Moore Bonds are just a different animal than the Connery films. They toe the line of parody at times. They are fine in and of themselves, but you can't compare them to the early films.... they come off very Austin Powers like.

Jezza · 01-09-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

We need an "unbiased" reviewer to re-review the current Bond titles and the ones coming out later this year. They rag on Moore so much that it makes me want to slap them in the face.

Agreed. I've never understood why so many hate the Moore films.

The Spy Who Loved Me is one of the best Bond movies ever and For Your Eyes Only demonstrates his Bond is certainly not always jokey.

The only two I would say are genuinley weak are Moonraker and Octopusy, simply because they are too camp.

DetroitSquirreL · 01-09-2012, 06:07 PM

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Agreed. I've never understood why so many hate the Moore films.

The Spy Who Loved Me is one of the best Bond movies ever and For Your Eyes Only demonstrates his Bond is certainly not always jokey.

The only two I would say are genuinley weak are Moonraker and Octopusy, simply because they are too camp.

ANYTHING after Moore left as Bond is shite

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jtu128

The Moore Bonds are just a different animal than the Connery films. They toe the line of parody at times. They are fine in and of themselves, but you can't compare them to the early films.... they come off very Austin Powers like.

Only Moonraker and A View To A Kill are truly bad. Austin Powers clearly based its movies off of Connery's Bond films...spoofing YOLT and Goldfinger.

octagon · 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM

The main problem with the Moore films is by that time the franchise had gotten itself into an unsunstainable 'can you top this' cycle.

Villians, plots, gadgets...everything had to one-up the film before and you just can't keep that going without getting pretty absurd.

Moore himself wasn't a terrible Bond, though.

Jezza · 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

ANYTHING after Moore left as Bond is shite

Really? Despite Timothy Dalton and Daniel Craig being reagrded as the closet interpreation of Ian Fleming's Bond. I love those two Bonds, they're gritty, they're serious and they're just there to get the job done. That is what Bond should be I think.

Having said that GoldenEye is my favourite Bond movie, possibly because it was the first one I ever saw.

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The main problem with the Moore films is by that time the franchise had gotten itself into an unsunstainable 'can you top this' cycle.

Villians, plots, gadgets...everything had to one-up the film before and you just can't keep that going without getting pretty absurd.

Moore himself wasn't a terrible Bond, though.

Very well put, I think you've hit the nail right on the head there.

When Moore was great, he was brilliant, it's just a shame in a couple of his films, he does in fact act too campy.

But I still love all his films and indeed all the Bond movies.

DarkDune · 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM

The Moore films are some of the best!

Sean for "classic" Bond
Moore for "revived somewhat campy" Bond
Timothy for "forgetful and not worth the price of admission" Bond
Pierce for "bad ass $exy" Bond
Daniel for blond "even more bad a$$" Bond

That's about how it goes...

Also remember that Roger Moore was Bond almost the longest!

DarkDune · 01-09-2012, 06:12 PM

We should comment on the Bond opening credits!

The Moore Bond opening credits were THE best!

TheOneWithThePrize · 01-09-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jezza

I didn't notice any DNR in any of the films, film grain was intact as it should be, with detail at an immesibly high level. Just because they have a very high contrast it doesn't mean DNR was used, that's what's so great about Lowry, they don't use DNR.

LOL, Lowry not using DNR...? You, funny man!

aimforsilence · 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM

I want goldeneye!!!

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Villians, plots, gadgets...everything had to one-up the film before and you just can't keep that going without getting pretty absurd.

The first two Moore films were really subdued...I think the producers blew their budget on the two previous Bond outings. LALD and MWTGG didn't have many F/X shots and grand locations outside 2 or 3 major set pieces. Man With The Golden Gun borderlines on boring and ugly at times.

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkDune

We should comment on the Bond opening credits!

The Moore Bond opening credits were THE best!

Indeed!

Jezza · 01-09-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

LOL, Lowry not using DNR...? You, funny man!

Lowry are the best restoration company out there. Maybe you look too hard into the restoration to the extent where you think you're seeing flaws. The restoration on the Bond movies are regarded as amongst the best out there. I've never noticed anything wrong with them and I think don't many ahve either.

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jezza

Lowry are the best restoration company out there. Maybe you look too hard into the restoration to the extent where you think you're seeing flaws. The restoration on the Bond movies are regarded as amongst the best out there. I've never noticed anything wrong with them and I think don't many ahve either.

I owned many of the films on VHS and DVD before the 2005 remasters, and I gotta say that the difference was night and day. Even TWINE looked way better than it did on its first DVD release.

Jezza · 01-09-2012, 06:20 PM

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I owned many of the films on VHS and DVD before the 2005 remasters, and I gotta say that the difference was night and day. Even TWINE looked way better than it did on its first DVD release.

Quite, I don't know where TheOneWithThePrize is coming from.

Strevlac · 01-09-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jezza

Lowry are the best restoration company out there.

No.

Some of the stuff they do is OK but IMO they go overboard with their fancy tools more often than not.

Aquel · 01-09-2012, 06:27 PM

Hopefully there is also the announcement of a special edition for Quantum of Solace, I would like to continue the trend of the Casino Royale Deluxe Edition in my collection

TheOneWithThePrize · 01-09-2012, 06:27 PM

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Quite, I don't know where TheOneWithThePrize is coming from.

Well, if all you are going to do is compare them to SD releases then, sure, they look fantastic. Still doesn't make them the best they could look in regards to the source. Just because you still see grain doesn't mean Lowry didn't use DNR, it's not like it is a Predator Ultimate DNR Edition job.

Trekkie313 · 01-09-2012, 06:28 PM

I want commentary for QOS badly...

01-09-2012, 06:10 PM	#26
octagon Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago Blu-ray collection:1010	The main problem with the Moore films is by that time the franchise had gotten itself into an unsunstainable 'can you top this' cycle. Villians, plots, gadgets...everything had to one-up the film before and you just can't keep that going without getting pretty absurd. Moore himself wasn't a terrible Bond, though. And I have been fortunate to escape what has been called “that form of snobbery which can accept the Literature of Entertainment in the Past, but only the Literature of the Enlightenment in the Present.” - Raymond Chandler 'Course I'm respectable. I'm old. Politicians, ugly buildings, and whors all get respectable if they last long enough.* - Noah Cross

01-09-2012, 06:10 PM	#28
DarkDune Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:155 Blu-ray collection:251 PS3 collection:17 Blu-ray reviews:7	The Moore films are some of the best! Sean for "classic" Bond Moore for "revived somewhat campy" Bond Timothy for "forgetful and not worth the price of admission" Bond Pierce for "bad ass $exy" Bond Daniel for blond "even more bad a$$" Bond That's about how it goes... Also remember that Roger Moore was Bond almost the longest! DarkDune PSN IDs: DarkDuneMRK, GloZorCoMeTh, DeadXEye_Drake, and Snake69Eye_Drake<-- U2 Stats! Last Watched Blu/DVD: Cars 2 <-- DAMN! IT LOOKS AWESOME ON BLU! Last Played PS3 Title: UNCHARTED 3: DRAKE'S DECEPTION <-- OMFG! AMAZING I TELL YOU! Our Latest "New" Blus: Star Wars - The Complete Saga, The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition, and Cars 2 Most Wanted PS3 Games: Easy! The Last of Us! Most Deeply Desired Upcoming Blus: Finding Nemo

01-09-2012, 06:12 PM	#29
DarkDune Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:155 Blu-ray collection:251 PS3 collection:17 Blu-ray reviews:7	We should comment on the Bond opening credits! The Moore Bond opening credits were THE best! DarkDune PSN IDs: DarkDuneMRK, GloZorCoMeTh, DeadXEye_Drake, and Snake69Eye_Drake<-- U2 Stats! Last Watched Blu/DVD: Cars 2 <-- DAMN! IT LOOKS AWESOME ON BLU! Last Played PS3 Title: UNCHARTED 3: DRAKE'S DECEPTION <-- OMFG! AMAZING I TELL YOU! Our Latest "New" Blus: Star Wars - The Complete Saga, The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition, and Cars 2 Most Wanted PS3 Games: Easy! The Last of Us! Most Deeply Desired Upcoming Blus: Finding Nemo

01-09-2012, 06:14 PM	#31
aimforsilence Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Edmonton, Canada Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:472 DVD collection:59 Trading Score:10	I want goldeneye!!! Fascinating... - Spock There's ALWAYS money in the Banana Stand! - George Bluth Son of a bit*h, I'm sick of these dolphins. - Steve Zissou

01-09-2012, 06:27 PM	#38
Aquel Senior Member Member since:Jan 2011 Blu-ray collection:180 DVD collection:8	Hopefully there is also the announcement of a special edition for Quantum of Solace, I would like to continue the trend of the Casino Royale Deluxe Edition in my collection The ability to speak does not make one intelligent, now get out of here. - Qui-Gon Jinn TV: Sony KDL40Z5500 (200 HZ, WCG CCFL, 10 bit colour) Speakers: Jamo S608 (fronts), Jamo S60 CEN (Center), Jamo S60 SUR (Surrounds), Klipsch RW-12D (Subwoofer), Marantz SR6004 (Receiver) Blu-ray player: Pioneer BDP-LX55 Game console: PS3 60GB (launch model with SACD).

01-09-2012, 06:00 PM	#21
Trekkie313 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Ohio Blu-ray collection:288 DVD collection:140 PS3 collection:25 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:15	We need an "unbiased" reviewer to re-review the current Bond titles and the ones coming out later this year. They rag on Moore so much that it makes me want to slap them in the face.

01-09-2012, 06:28 PM	#40
Trekkie313 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Ohio Blu-ray collection:288 DVD collection:140 PS3 collection:25 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:15	I want commentary for QOS badly...

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