'Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance'

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

How many times does he have to post his dislike for it though? I don't think I would keep coming into a movie forum about something I dislike just to keep posting my dislike for it. But that is just me.

But what he posted, and what you quoted, wasn't him expressing his dislike. That's what I'm saying. What was posted was the outcome of this movie this weekend, which is well below expectations. If he hadn't done it, I would have. With movies like this, people like to report how they do in the threads around here.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

But what he posted, and what you quoted, wasn't him expressing his dislike. That's what I'm saying. What was posted was the outcome of this movie this weekend, which is well below expectations. If he hadn't done it, I would have. With movies like this, people like to report how they do in the threads around here.

Ok, to make you feel better, would you want me to quote the other posts?

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

Ok, to make you feel better, would you want me to quote the other posts?

No, because I know he doesn't like the movie. But I'm just pointing out that his last post isn't negative about the movie. It wasn't an opinion. He was just stating facts. He has been negative about the movie, yes. But I can understand why, it was awful. I posted my review in here last night and it's just bad. Maybe the negativity from the posts could get cut back, sure. But as it stands, this is for opinions of the film, and Underworld wants to talk about his dissatisfaction with it. If you haven't noticed, things like this happen in this forum all the time. People are negative in many of the threads all the time, whether they've seen it or not. That's what happens in open forums.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

No, because I know he doesn't like the movie.

But the thing is, he hasn't even watched it and still like to keep showing dislike for it. We get it.

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Gross

Originally Posted by Underworld54

I've seen enough to make me not want to see it.

Originally Posted by Underworld54

In the case of bad movies, it's entirely fine to think about yourself first.

Originally Posted by Underworld54

This may persuade you to see something else or just stay home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wUOTZVFExBI

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

But the thing is, he hasn't even watched it and still like to keep showing dislike for it. We get it.

Again, this happens all the time in this forum. If you don't like it, ignore his posts. It's that simple.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Again, this happens all the time in this forum. If you don't like it, ignore his posts. It's that simple.

OK, I just thought it could become more positive in the thread for the actual fans. Opinions are freely open, but could have some respect and not keep re-posting your dislike for a film you haven't even seen.

For example, I haven't seen the Underworld movies because I believe they suck. The difference is I don't go post about them on the movie's forum pages and leave those for the fans.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

No, because I know he doesn't like the movie. But I'm just pointing out that his last post isn't negative about the movie. It wasn't an opinion. He was just stating facts. He has been negative about the movie, yes. But I can understand why, it was awful. I posted my review in here last night and it's just bad. Maybe the negativity from the posts could get cut back, sure. But as it stands, this is for opinions of the film, and Underworld wants to talk about his dissatisfaction with it.

Exactly right WG, I don't know why people get so defensive over a movie. I'm pretty much sick of bad cinema and I truly enjoy it when people don't support movie like this.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Exactly right WG, I don't know why people get so defensive over a movie. I'm pretty much sick of bad cinema and I truly enjoy it when people don't support movie like this.

What is "bad cinema" to you? Because I am a fan of art and experimental films so this is interesting to hear.

Just to be clear, you said "bad cinema", not me.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

OK, I just thought it could become more positive in the thread for the actual fans. Opinions are freely open, but could have some respect and not keep re-posting your dislike for a film you haven't even seen.

For example, I haven't seen the Underworld movies because I believe they suck. The difference is I don't go post about them on the movie's forum pages and leave those for the fans.

You can rag on the Underworld films and any others I like. I liked Sucker Punch and I've taken some good ripping over that one. I'm totally fine with it.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

You can rag on the Underworld films and any others I like. I liked Sucker Punch and I've taken some good ripping over that one. I'm totally fine with it.

But the thing is, I don't want to rag on them. You like them, and this isn't the place for it. If that is all you got out of what I was saying, it's obvious this place can't be more respected.

[UK_fan_05]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

I don't think is the last we'll see of the ol' Flame head on the big screen, but it will definitely be the last time with Sony and Cage. Marvel will be getting the rights back almost immediately I'm sure. I think that means they'll have all their Midnight Sons characters back, which makes me hope Marvel would consider doing a similar Avengers like crossover with Ghost Rider, Punisher, and Blade.

Goodbye Cage and Sony! It's been very horrible and I'm happy to see you go!

Should we start a Ghost Rider reboot thread so we can discuss our ideas for the reboot?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

What is "bad cinema" to you? Because I am a fan of art and experimental films so this is interesting to hear.

Just to be clear, you said "bad cinema", not me.

Movies that no effort is put into it to make it stand out from other films. Movies studios just throw money at haphazardly with what seems like no care for the end product besides a quick cash grab. But this isn't the place for that, this is about discussing Ghost Rider which I have done within my rights and within forum rules. If you would like to discuss what bad cinema is just make a thread and I'll be happy to participate.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Movies that no effort is put into it to make it stand out from other films.

Couldn't you say that for anything with sequels or themes that is very very similar to other movie franchises?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

Couldn't you say that for anything with sequels or themes that is very very similar to other movie franchises?

I told you, I'm not discussing that here. Make a new thread and I'll be happy to debate that with you there.

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Just finished seeing it and really didn't like it. I'll be writing up a more in depth review tonight. But damn, I just really didn't like it. So disappointed.

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

I know. It was just so...meh. I was bored the whole time. I wanted to love this movie and hoped and prayed that this would be the take on the character I was hoping for, but it really wasn't. And I love a lot of movies, as Nolfoc pointed out. Just didn't work for me. It wasn't even fun in a grindhouse style, B movie sort of way like I would have hoped.

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

My Blog Review

"In order for any story to work, you have to get to know the characters and get to know their motivations. But in this movie, there isn't any of that. Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, the duo behind the 'Crank' series, have no idea what these characters should be doing. They're more focused on their chaotic and frantic filming styles and being extreme than the dynamics of the characters and the story of the film. They admittedly didn't know much about the character, and even chose the villain because they thought he looked cool in the comics. That should explain quite a bit of why the film feels so disjointed and doesn't really work.

The acting is subpar at best, with Cage being over the top as usual. His phoned in performances are becoming tiresome, and I can tell that Neveldine and Taylor tried pushing Cage to his utmost insane. It just didn't work in this movie."


After hearing that the Directors of the CRANK series did this one, I had a bad feeling. Like you said, it seems they're mainly (only?) concerned with the "chaotic & frantic filming styles", instead of making a good fun action film.

I'll gladly wait as long as it takes for this to hit HBO/Showtime & then laugh thru the film, as I'm sure it'll play more like a bad comedy than a fun comic book action film, with yet another "where's my Paycheck?" performance from Nic Cage.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Aerodude73

After hearing that the Directors of the CRANK series did this one, I had a bad feeling. Like you said, it seems they're mainly (only?) concerned with the "chaotic & frantic filming styles", instead of making a good fun action film.

I'll gladly wait as long as it takes for this to hit HBO/Showtime & then laugh thru the film, as I'm sure it'll play more like a bad comedy than a fun comic book action film, with yet another "where's my Paycheck?" performance from Nic Cage.

That's pretty much exactly what it is, sadly. I knew from the beginning when they signed on that it wasn't going to be a take on the character I'd enjoy much. But it was worse than I ever imagined it would be. The movie is just a mess.

I wish I had been drinking while I was watching it, at least then it might have been slightly entertaining.

[nolfoc]

Nicolas Cage Losing His Shit - YouTube

this is the best

[MykeHavoc]

Originally Posted by Aerodude73

After hearing that the Directors of the CRANK series did this one, I had a bad feeling. Like you said, it seems they're mainly (only?) concerned with the "chaotic & frantic filming styles", instead of making a good fun action film.

I consider both Crank films to be "good fun" because of how over the top they are. I'm expecting a popcorn movie. Anyone with higher expectations will likely be disappointed.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by MykeHavoc

I consider both Crank films to be "good fun" because of how over the top they are. I'm expecting a popcorn movie. Anyone with higher expectations will likely be disappointed.

I enjoy the Crank movies and went in with lower expectations than that and was still disappointed. It's just not a very good movie.

[RJ Smoove]

Originally Posted by nolfoc

Nicolas Cage Losing His Shit - YouTube


this is the best

He's built a hell of a career on anger and outbursts.