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Old 02-20-2012, 02:07 AM   #1
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Can anyone recommend the best Soundbar system that can be used without an amp? I'm eyeing the b&W Panorama. Can anyone vouch for the sound on that - even though it doesn't have HDMI? Or can someone bring up a good alternative?
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Can anyone recommend the best Soundbar system that can be used without an amp? I'm eyeing the b&W Panorama. Can anyone vouch for the sound on that - even though it doesn't have HDMI? Or can someone bring up a good alternative?
Soundbar reviews: http://www.hometheater.com/category/soundbar-reviews

I know you have your eye on the B&W soundbar, but the lower cost models review pretty well too( Vizio, Insignia, Polk ).
Check out these ZVox models:
http://www.zvoxaudio.com/cgi-bin/cat...t&item=4004302
http://www.zvoxaudio.com/cgi-bin/item/400430x

Also go with a 46" or 50" TV, instead of 32"-40".
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I may look into that Insignia from your link for my kitchen TV
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Thanks for the links. How would the B&W Zeppelin compare to some of the lower priced soundbars?
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Thanks for the links. How would the B&W Zeppelin compare to some of the lower priced soundbars?
I really don't know, but I hope it would be better for around $2000. A couple thousand is serious coin for a soundbar[ that could get you a nice little stereo system( Integrated Amp/pair of speakers or Stereo receiver/pair of speakers ) ]. Your best bet is to dig in & do your research & go demoing, to find out. Thoroughly read all the reviews I linked. I wouldn't shy away from the lower priced options( they all got great reviews ). The Insignia includes Audyssey audio processing( Audyssey EQ, Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume, BassXTfeatures ). The Vizio's include SRS audio processing( TruSurround HD, WOW HD, TruVolume ). I like the ZVOX( http://www.zvoxaudio.com/ ) options, any of their offerings would be a good solution.


"So it's a very good sound bar, for the price of a decent 5.1 system. If you're keen to get rid of wires, and money's no object, it's worth considering, but with other quality soundbars such as Yamaha's YSP-40D or Marantz's ES7001 offering nearly as good a sound for a little over half as much, you really should try before you buy. "
from: http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/uan/2996

"There are a lot of uneducated and, more importantly, inexperienced groups of buyers convincing themselves that a home theater in a box is good enough, or that the speakers built into their TV sound just fine. They're not and they don't. Products like this exist for a reason; it's to give you a better sense of what was recorded in the studio. If you're a music and/or film buff and you're using the speakers in your TV, you're cutting the experience in half. You don't necessarily need to drop $2,000 for a soundbar, but for those who want the best, the Panorama is your huckleberry. Is the performance of the Panorama twice that of $1,000 soundbars? You bet."
from: http://hometheaterreview.com/bowers-...aker-reviewed/

I see your room is small from the pics in your gallery, but putting a soundbar where your TV is currently located, may not provide the best sound. The B&W Panorama & most other soundbars, use sound reflection off side walls for the surround effect. It looks like the right side drivers on a soundbar would be firing right into your bookshelf, interfering with normal operation.
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I wish the sound on TVs were improving instead of declining. I'd rather have a monitor with great sound that's thick and heavy than a thin and light screen with shallow or no sound.

What about the B&W Zeppelin? you know, the iPhone dock. How would the sound on that compare to a soundbar?
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The B&W Panorama & most other soundbars, use sound reflection off side walls for the surround effect. It looks like the right side drivers on a soundbar would be firing right into your bookshelf, interfering with normal operation.
if I would set the soundbar to stereo would it be a problem?
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We sell the Panorama and Zeppelin and they are both fantastic options. At first glance the price of the panorama looks like too much but when you consider the fact that you don't need a receiver, or a subwoofer, it makes more sense. I say go for it!!!!! It will probably be the next thing I buy for my 2nd tv room.
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